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To: GiovannaNicoletta

LOL!!

If I had a dollar for every time I’ve heard some Internet Jesus Jockey deny the teaching authority of the Church, which created God’s word as we know it, I’d be able to pay for Benny Hinn’s new Gulfstream G4SP jet ($36 million). It’s a total joke.

I’m not a scripture-denier. I’m a made-up baloney denier. And that’s what Dispensationalism and the rapture doctrine are: made-up baloney.

Happy Easter, by the way. If you celebrate Easter.


345 posted on 04/03/2010 1:10:11 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan
Maybe the fallen men who make up the hierarchy of the Catholic church gave you your Scripture, but mine came directly from the Holy Spirit. I take God at His word and believe every word He said, and my belief is based on the authority and sovereignty of God, not the non-existent, phony "supremacy" that the hot-shots of the Catholic church have given themselves and in their sin-sick, fallen, finite, limited minds have taken it upon themselves to decide what parts of Scripture are truth and what are fiction.

And you may have yourself convinced that the God-written Scriptures which detail the event of the Rapture are "made-up baloney", but there is too much prophecy of the God-written Scriptures which has been fulfilled in the last few thousand years for any puny human being, especially those who have anointed themselves the "representatives" and the "vicars" of Christ on earth, to declare that any portion of Scripture is "made-up baloney".

There have been more than enough posts in this thread that show beyond any shadow of doubt that the Rapture is an event which is detailed in the God-written Scriptures and that that event will happen.

Oh, by the way- the day you stand before Jesus Christ to give an account of your life, have fun explaining to Him how you, in your omniscience and omnipresent human "logic" and "wisdom", have decided that there are major portions of His Book that are "made-up baloney".

And that day will come, whether your local priest has given you permission to believe that the part of the God-written Bible which states that every single man will answer to God is true and infallible and inerrant or whether he hasn't.

346 posted on 04/03/2010 1:32:48 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: B-Chan; GiovannaNicoletta

“Dispensationalism and the rapture doctrine are: made-up baloney.”

Arguing about who has the truth, who are the heretics, etc is counterproductive to sharing Jesus. I know many who are full of ‘made-up baloney’ from all of the man-made ‘Christian’ religious systems. They are all man-made, and mostly exist today to control people.

Jesus did not come to start a religion. It is important to remember that his twelve chosen deciples, and virtually all of his other followers, those he taught/preached to, were Jews or Israelites. Even the woman at the well was an Israelite, though not of the tribe of Judah.

He challenged only the religious leaders (Pharisees etc). I believe they knew he was what he said he was, and they sought to kill him.

The Word of God was not given to us by the Roman Catholic Church, it was preserved and given to us by God, by His Holy Spirit. This was done for all of the Old Covenant Scriptures through the Jews. The New Covenant Scriptures were also preserved and given to us by that same God. The early church fathers did not know there was such a thing as a Roman Catholic Church - all in the first couple of centuries were just ‘Christians’.

I have seen first had the marvelous brotherhood between Christians who gather independent of what church connection they might claim. I saw it in Ireland, in Northern Ireland, during some of the troubles there. As many as 200 or so of us prayed/worshipped together every Monday evening in Rostrevor. Catholics and those who were not Catholic. It included priests and nuns, along with clergy from Church of Ireland, Presbyterian, Baptist. We were there as brothers and sisters in Christ, and no one was Protesting anything. If we could do that in Ireland in the late 70’s, why not now here on this forum?

Does it really matter that we will or won’t be ‘raptured’? Does it really matter that we know about ‘dispensationalism’ and ‘rapture’ because Darby taught it and Scofield made it popular through his ‘Notes’?

Darby’s teaching and Scofield’s Notes do not make these things so. Papal bull does not make a thing so. We err when we rely on what men say or teach.

Years ago, my father’s boss introduced him to his minister. My father made a comment about scripture and the minister took exception, saying ‘Do you know who I am? I am the man, when ministers in this town have a question about the Bible, whom they come to for answers.’ My father said, ‘Do you know who I am? I am the man, when I have a question about what the Bible says, asks the Holy Spirit, and he tells me.’

One final thought - God is in control. Not man, not any man, not any church - God is in control.


349 posted on 04/03/2010 3:09:59 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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