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(UK) Dying hospital patient phoned switchboard begging for a drink after nurses said No
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Posted on 03/29/2010 4:41:03 AM PDT by cycle of discernment

Dying hospital patient phoned switchboard begging for a drink after nurses said No

By Liz Hull 29th March 2010

A patient desperate for a drink of water had to telephone the switchboard of the hospital he was being treated in to beg to see a doctor.

Derek Sauter, 60, used his mobile phone to request medical attention after his pleas for help were ignored.

But when the doctor arrived he was turned away by ward nurse Caroline Lowe, who said Mr Sauter was 'over-reacting' and threatened to confiscate his phone.

Eight hours later the grandfather-of-three, who was suffering with a chest infection, was dead.

Rather than offering sympathy to Susan, Mr Sauter's wife of 41 years, Miss Lowe later told her that he could have been prosecuted for harassing the doctor on call.

'My father went into hospital for a routine chest infection, but never came out,' said Miss Sauter, of Thurrock, Essex.

He was admitted to a ward and given intravenous antibiotics and oxygen, but at 8.30pm he telephoned Mrs Sauter, a midwife, in distress claiming nurses were refusing to give him any water because he had accidentally knocked over the first cup he had been given.

A note scrawled by Mr Sauter and discovered by his family after his death said: 'Asked for a jug of water at 6pm and again at 8.30, told to wait for handover. Said I knocked cup of water on floor.'

Some time between 9.30pm and 11.30pm Mr Sauter was moved to a side room where there was no monitoring equipment and, although he was supposed to be checked every four hours, no observations on his condition were made.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: carolinelowe; deathcare; dereksauter; healthcare; moralabsolutes; nhs; obamacare; prolife; socialisthealthcare; socializedmedicine

1 posted on 03/29/2010 4:41:04 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment

Medicare.....


2 posted on 03/29/2010 4:43:43 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: cycle of discernment

Obamacare.....


3 posted on 03/29/2010 4:49:20 AM PDT by Gator113 (I do not want Obama just IMPEACHED... I want him IMPRISONED. Are we there yet? 2010-2012)
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To: cycle of discernment

4 posted on 03/29/2010 4:50:04 AM PDT by edpc (Those Lefties just ain't right)
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To: cycle of discernment

turned Doc away?

5 posted on 03/29/2010 4:50:41 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: cycle of discernment

“The New America.” Coming soon to a hospital near you.


6 posted on 03/29/2010 4:51:04 AM PDT by Brouhaha
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To: cycle of discernment

Criminal


7 posted on 03/29/2010 4:51:13 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: cycle of discernment
I'm sure this incident will force NHS to implement a much needed new policy.

A note scrawled by Mr Sauter and discovered by his family after his death said: 'Asked for a jug of water at 6pm and again at 8.30, told to wait for handover. Said I knocked cup of water on floor.'

From now on, all dead patients will be searched for notes left to relatives. If these notes complain about NHS treatment they will be promptly destroyed.

8 posted on 03/29/2010 4:51:14 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Obamacare: The 2010 version of the Intolerable Acts.)
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To: cycle of discernment

This is outrageous and appears to be a trend. Sad.


9 posted on 03/29/2010 4:52:21 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Doogle

A nurse turned a doctor away?

Most docs I know would have kicked her stupid nursing school only butt.


10 posted on 03/29/2010 4:55:22 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: mom4melody

..socialized medicine


11 posted on 03/29/2010 4:56:05 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: cycle of discernment

The truly sad part is this is not an isolated incident. These type stories appear in the UK and Canadian press outlets daily and this type of “Post Office” health care is what our Congress just voted for.......Remember in November!


12 posted on 03/29/2010 5:02:23 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: cycle of discernment
And the Americans have voted for a NHS just like ours!!!!!!!!!!!!

One of the comments further down the page.

13 posted on 03/29/2010 5:10:52 AM PDT by Timocrat
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To: cycle of discernment

This wouldn’t bother the zero administration - probably not a rat voter, and now he wouldn’t need social security. One must think of the good of the state rather than specific people /s.....well except those in power and those who can be depended on to keep voting to keep them in power.


14 posted on 03/29/2010 5:12:41 AM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: cycle of discernment
Just curious, but where was the man's family during this incident?

This man didn't die of thirst in a matter of a few hours.

If the family left him there, knowing how bad the attendents were, they are almost as complacent in the man's death as the nurses.

Maybe I'm unusual, but when my wife was in the hospital in this country she was not left alone by me, or my mother-in-law.
15 posted on 03/29/2010 5:14:09 AM PDT by RangerM (A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost.)
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To: Doogle

So that’s where the race of Morlocks got their start. Nasty!


16 posted on 03/29/2010 5:23:11 AM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: JDW11235

Yes, yes, but I’m sure the NHS learned a valuable lesson from this.


17 posted on 03/29/2010 5:24:06 AM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: RangerM
Just curious, but where was the man's family during this incident?

Probably working two or three jobs in order to pay for the ridiculously high taxes they have support their NHS. Remember, the average European lives below what would be considered the poverty level here. Gas is over $7/gallon in most of Europe in addition to high sales taxes, VAT tax, etc.

Every time I've visited western Europe I found myself asking "How did these people allow themselves to get into a situation like this?" For someone who dearly loves freedom it is a very sad sight......

18 posted on 03/29/2010 5:50:06 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: RangerM
Just curious, but where was the man's family during this incident?

From the article...

"She had not been able to see him before because the events had happened outside of visiting hours"
19 posted on 03/29/2010 6:13:59 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: chrisser
Ah yes, because when it is a private company providing a service, they let your family sit by your side, as most likely the family are the ones paying the bills.

When it is a government facility, there are strict “visiting hours”, not to be excessive or exceeded.

20 posted on 03/29/2010 6:19:34 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: cycle of discernment

If he was that sick, why wasn’t someone in his family there with him? It is critical that a family member be close by to see that this doesn’t happen.


21 posted on 03/29/2010 6:26:50 AM PDT by native texan ("don't tread on me")
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To: chrisser

When it comes to my family, there is no such thing as “visiting hours”.

Nurses attempted to kick me out because “visitors hours were over”. They never did, although I understood they have their job to do. They understood that I also had an obligation to my wife, and never brought it up again.


22 posted on 03/29/2010 6:28:40 AM PDT by RangerM (A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost.)
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To: cycle of discernment
...when the doctor arrived he was turned away by ward nurse Caroline Lowe,... Rather than offering sympathy to Susan, Mr Sauter's wife of 41 years, Miss Lowe later told her that he could have been prosecuted for harassing the doctor on call.

The ward nurse was probably SEIU. Talk about a cold hearted, controlling bitch. I'm sure she vas chust fholloink ohrders...

Coming soon, to a hospital near you!

23 posted on 03/29/2010 6:32:07 AM PDT by Gritty (Today the future lies between the certainty of decline and the probability of catastrophe-Mark Steyn)
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To: cycle of discernment

From personal observation, some nurses are saints, and some nurses would rather sit on their butts than do their jobs.

Unfortunately they seem to sort out with all the saints ending up on one floor or one specific ward and all the losers ending up on another. Maybe they just can’t stand each other.

Specifically I saw that at one hospital that I will not name. The nurses in the burn ward and on the sixth floor were great. The nurses running the fourth floor were complete slackers and would have left my daughter screaming in agony rather than administer painkillers outside of schedule, without my or my wife’s intervention. No, they weren’t busy helping another patient; they were sitting on their butts behind the desk.


24 posted on 03/29/2010 6:39:19 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: cycle of discernment

5 years from now in the US...

Just saving the state some money that can be better sprnt on illegals.


25 posted on 03/29/2010 7:13:45 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: ecomcon

or spent.


26 posted on 03/29/2010 7:16:34 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Doogle

Educated beyond her intelligence.


27 posted on 03/29/2010 7:20:33 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !! )
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To: Doogle

She almost looks like my crazy, Obama-loving neighbor who of all things is a psychiatric nurse...and she is a crazy nutbag herself.


28 posted on 03/29/2010 7:22:51 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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29 posted on 03/29/2010 7:25:17 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Lesforlife

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30 posted on 03/29/2010 7:26:18 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

We’re no longer in any position to judge other countries for the inhumane treatment they inflict on each other. This can only serve as a warning to us of what we’re in store for. As a government by the people, we did this to ourselves.


31 posted on 03/29/2010 7:39:35 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: RangerM

It’s entirely possible that the family was prohibited from being there, although it’s only a guess.

A nurse obnoxious and arrogant enough to turn away a doctor and threaten the family that charges could have been filed, is also likely to be obnoxious and arrogant enough to kick the family out.


32 posted on 03/29/2010 7:42:52 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: cycle of discernment

Our future under obamacare.


33 posted on 03/29/2010 7:50:52 AM PDT by ukie55
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To: wagglebee

What is the world coming to.

Any illiterate street person on drugs would have gladly gotten this men a drink of water.

Nurse now mean “murdering fiend” in the UK, apparently.


34 posted on 03/29/2010 8:47:08 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: metmom

Nurses are unionized in the UK. ‘Nuff said. I have too many horror stories.

It is different there, culturally. The older generation have a saying....”Oh, well. Nevermind.” No one complains. It’s the ‘English way’. Doctors are NOT to be questioned and their opinions are that of ‘god’. I bombarded my surgeon with tons of questions and he was quite taken aback and scoffed me.


35 posted on 03/29/2010 9:14:36 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: RangerM

My son and daughter-in-law are both nurses. Niether of them will leave a family member alone in a hospital and that is in the US. At least here, they can’t boot you out, although they can try. Truthfully, if you behave yourself, most hospital staff seem happy enough to have family to help out.


36 posted on 03/29/2010 9:28:56 AM PDT by Roses0508
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To: Roses0508

My husband was in the hospital a number of years ago. I was with him 12 and half hours a day. I had to go home because I had two dogs, one a six month old puppy. Otherwise, I would have tried to be there 24 hours a day. I was working at the time, but told them I was taking some time off.


37 posted on 03/29/2010 9:38:09 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Roses0508

Not at Doctor’s Hospital in Modesto. My Dad was recovering from a thirteen hour surgery to repair a six inch rip in his aorta. They ran us out of there at six PM. I pleaded with them to let me look after him during the night. Oh no, they said. We have one on one care all night.

One night after midnight I was sitting at Mom’s house when I suddenly felt a terrible chill. Something made me get in the car and drive to the hospital. I had to sneak in through the ER and finally got upstairs to the “mega” critical care area. There was no one around. I found my Dad naked without even as much as a sheet, not to mention a blanket. I raised hell. Seems they had ONE person caring for twelve in that ward.

Next day came the threats of trespassing, and then the old “were your drunk?”

I LOATHE hospitals, and most nurses.


38 posted on 03/29/2010 10:26:56 AM PDT by EggsAckley ( There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply!)
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To: cycle of discernment
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39 posted on 03/29/2010 12:40:00 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Sacajaweau
Here is another guy who recently died of thirst in a British hospital.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1255858/Neglected-lazy-nurses-Kane-Gorny-22-dying-thirst-rang-police-beg-water.html

40 posted on 03/29/2010 1:39:06 PM PDT by ME-262 (We need Term Limits for the federal house and senate. We need new Bums up there.)
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To: wagglebee
Terri Schiavo's mother Mary begged Judge George Greer on national television for an ICE CHIP. Terri Schiavo didn't even have an ice chip or anything at all for almost two weeks. There's a picture of Mary doing this on line someplace. That was the only presser Mary had. Mary's only presser was to beg for water for Terri.

CHARLIE CRIST "let their daughter die." FR thread

41 posted on 03/29/2010 3:24:31 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Charlie Crist is Florida's Tanya Harding. SUPPORT MARCO RUBIO, EVERYBODY!)
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To: wagglebee

photo essay TERRI SCHIAVO’s last stand against federal, state and local govt, civil rights dept., judicial system. They ALL KILLED HER. Terri was our First Sanctioned Death Panel.

http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,336,00.html


42 posted on 03/29/2010 3:32:34 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Charlie Crist is Florida's Tanya Harding. SUPPORT MARCO RUBIO, EVERYBODY!)
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To: floriduh voter

Never mind. Those jpegs were 5 years old. Looks like Fox deleted the photo essay.


43 posted on 03/29/2010 3:38:47 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Charlie Crist is Florida's Tanya Harding. SUPPORT MARCO RUBIO, EVERYBODY!)
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To: floriduh voter
Thanks for that link. Here it is, as recorded by Wayback Machine, on February 12, 2007:

Life or Death Struggle
The Battle for Terri Schiavo


March 23: A clerk with the 11th Circuit Court delivers copies of the ruling to reporters in Atlanta.


March 22: Protesters gather in the Florida Capitol to show support for Terri Schiavo in Tallahassee.


March 22: Mary Schindler pleads for Terri's life during a news conference at the Woodside Hospice.


March 21: Bob Schindler, Terri Schiavo's father, speaks to reporters at the Woodside Hospice.


March 21: House Speaker Dennis Hastert ends an emergency session for debate on Terri Schiavo.


March 20: President Bush arrives in D.C. to sign emergency legislation regarding Terri Schiavo.


March 20: Mary Schindler visits her daughter, Terri Schiavo, at the Woodside Hospice in Pinellas Park, Fla.


March 17: A truck covered in signs in support of Terri Schiavo drives by the Woodside Hospice.


March 16: Demonstrators cover their mouths with tape during a news conference outside the Woodside Hospice.


March 16: An activist reads the bible outside the Woodside Hospice, where Terri Schiavo is a patient.


Feb. 23: Bob and Mary Schindler, parents of Terri Schiavo, listen during an emergency hearing in Clearwater, Fla.


Terri Schiavo is shown in an Aug. 11, 2001, video released by her family.


Terri Schiavo, center, is shown in an undated family photo with her parents, Mary and Bob Schindler.


An undated photo shows Terri Schiavo.

44 posted on 04/04/2010 10:03:43 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

Yeppers. President Bush 43 went downhill after he chose the party over Terri’s life.


45 posted on 04/04/2010 10:09:59 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Charlie Crist is Florida's Tanya Harding. SUPPORT MARCO RUBIO, EVERYBODY!)
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To: BykrBayb
Thanks for the photos, BB. Terri's Gulfport Celebration of Life was the most historic memorial service I've ever attended. Fr. Pavone, Bobby Schindler showing us Terri's Purple Heart given to their family by a veteran, Glenn Beck spoke as well. THE MEDIA HAD TO STAY OUTSIDE.

Father Pavone said something about Judge Greer being judged someday and people were cheering and applauding. It was a lighter moment during the service.

"Justice is mine, sayeth the Lord."

46 posted on 04/04/2010 10:14:21 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Charlie Crist is Florida's Tanya Harding. SUPPORT MARCO RUBIO, EVERYBODY!)
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To: cycle of discernment

And this is what the anti-Christ Obama wants for us.


47 posted on 04/04/2010 10:15:04 AM PDT by sitetest ( If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: cycle of discernment

When I was a soldier in Iraq,we helped out as many of the Iraqis as we could.

It was never the enemy,it was never a question of sitting on our butts or doing nothing.

We were in close contact with them and we did what could to be there for them.


48 posted on 04/05/2010 11:50:13 AM PDT by Del Rapier
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