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Obama To Take Over Control of College Textbooks?
Big Government ^ | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 03/31/2010 6:57:04 AM PDT by Sopater

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To: Russ

I totally detest “programmed learning”.


41 posted on 03/31/2010 7:45:24 AM PDT by Birdsbane ("Onward through the fog!" ... Oat Willie)
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To: xsmommy

Is University of Dallas conservative?


42 posted on 03/31/2010 7:47:49 AM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: Sopater

I thought education was controlled at the local level?

I’m all for cheaper books. Text books are a rip.


43 posted on 03/31/2010 7:51:50 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: tbw2

yes. My daughter is a junior there, we are very happy with it. It’s a small authentically Catholic university. Last Monday, the day after the passage of the healthcare bill, her Politics professor, in her class on Aristotle, scrapped the day’s lecture and they engaged in a discussion of the horrors of the passage of the bill. She attended a lecture series last weekend that featured R.J. Pestritto, who is a former UD politics professor, now on the faculty of Hillsdale.


44 posted on 03/31/2010 7:53:55 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Sopater

I know textbook$ are pricey as hell, but Bummer is doing us no favors by meddling in the matter.


45 posted on 03/31/2010 7:54:15 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Blue Turtle
Rush and Sean talk about it. They don't take ANY FEDERAL MONEY at all, INCLUDING student loans, Pell Grants, etc. That way the Feds have NO CONTROL over their curriculum..............
46 posted on 03/31/2010 7:55:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: Sopater

“Purpose and Intent of the Bill...and enhancing transparency and disclosure”

That is rich.


47 posted on 03/31/2010 7:57:41 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: Labyrinthos

Do they get kickbacks from the astronomical prices of the newest books?

One scheme that might cut the cost of textbooks would be to release all in a binder format, where future updates would consist of small kits to replace superseded pages and every effort would be taken not to upset pagination.


48 posted on 03/31/2010 7:58:59 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Republic

Our history is already erased, as far as public schools are concerned.


49 posted on 03/31/2010 8:03:48 AM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: ctdonath2
I had only recently read about universities adopting an open courseware model. Thank you so much for the link!
My first reaction to this article is that it's designed to discourage creating new editions that consist of fixing a minor typo or replacing a case study. Unless the professor is completely reliant on students doing the case studies and exercises, it's usually not a problem to get a prior edition (or international edition) online for much cheaper. As opencourseware, online education and ebooks become more prevalent, I think there will be a natural decline in print textbook costs. I see this as unnecessary legislation with good intentions that has the possibility of being exploited.
Throwing in my recommendations: Grove City College in PA, and Amberton University, TX, as a good online option.
50 posted on 03/31/2010 8:06:53 AM PDT by Sisku Hanne
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To: Sopater

THis is more nanny government at work

the changes in content are about the fact that college text publishers change minimal content and move things around in their books then call it a new edition and charge top dollar, for example 100-150 for a basic English lit book. This prevents the secondary market of used books from gaining any traction.

A despicable practice, but not one for government interference.


51 posted on 03/31/2010 8:12:59 AM PDT by Chickensoup (We have the government we deserve. Is our government our traitor?)
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To: Sopater

As a starving student, I actually kind of like this law. My future as a contributing Conservative adult depends on me getting the best education I can afford. Textbooks are a scam! I have to spend hundreds of dollars every semester on books and if there is a registry somewhere that tells me what has changed between a cheap used book and a pricey new book, then I can buy the old one and download the changes from the registry to get the updates.

As has been pointed out above, this law was initiated under the previous president, so I don’t think it really qualifies as a power grab by the libs.


52 posted on 03/31/2010 8:18:20 AM PDT by rspuck
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To: Psalm 144
The greatest outrage is the federal monopoly on college loans now.

As I understand it, all that has happened is that loans which were previously issued by banks using 100% federal money with 100% federal loan guarantees (zero risk for the banks), will now be issued directly by the government. It's not clear to me why this change alone is an "outrage".

You might make the argument that perhaps the government will now be using political favoritism in issuing loans, but you could make the same argument about housing loans, SBA loans, etc.

The much more serious issue with education loans is how the availability of the loans is the major factor in driving up the cost of education. The billions of dollars saved by transferring the loan-issuing to the government will probably soon be eaten up by increased tuition.

53 posted on 03/31/2010 8:36:41 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: Blue Turtle
Its disheartening (which is the intention)....as I have kids that I want to go to college, but where?

My daughter goes to the University of Oklahoma. While there are plenty of diverse opinions at OU, there's still room for strong conservative, Christians like her.

To get an idea of her make up, check out her blog -
Allys World

She has tons of friends with similar viewpoints and has had no problems voicing her viewpoints in papers and presentations in her honors classes which have been on the American Family, and Media Shifts. Conservative thought has been accepted, though not agreed with by everyone concerned.

I cannot vouch for any other universities, but we've been very pleased with OU.
54 posted on 03/31/2010 8:47:37 AM PDT by Texas2step (<><)
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To: bamahead
Somebody's ignoring histroy and someone is using it.


55 posted on 03/31/2010 9:08:55 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Double your income... Fire the government)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"One scheme that might cut the cost of textbooks would be to release all in a binder format, where future updates would consist of small kits to replace superseded pages and every effort would be taken not to upset pagination."

my marketing professor did just that, and priced it @ $20. that barely covered the cost of printing. it's been 15 years, and i still respect him for doing that.

56 posted on 03/31/2010 9:15:12 AM PDT by robomatik (III%)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
One scheme that might cut the cost of textbooks would be to release all in a binder format, where future updates would consist of small kits to replace superseded pages and every effort would be taken not to upset pagination.

Or pocket parts that slip into the rear cover.

57 posted on 03/31/2010 10:09:14 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: MrB
I read the back of the book. We win, they lose.

Been my sig for years..

58 posted on 03/31/2010 10:15:59 AM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: ctdonath2
You make a good point.

I was in a school district that had a warehouse for used textbooks. The administrator of that warehouse allowed homeschoolers to provide a name and phone number, and then she would contact us each year when they would replace old textbooks with new ones. We were allowed to come and take whatever we wanted before it was ultimately destroyed. We obtained countless textbooks that had never even been opened. They were being replaced by new revisions with seemingly insignificant changes. It really appeared to be a huge waste of tax money.

59 posted on 03/31/2010 10:25:33 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Sopater

MORE

HIDEOUS TREASON by the globalists.


60 posted on 03/31/2010 10:28:14 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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