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New York Times: The Government and the Militia Movement
(Here it comes!)
The New York Times ^
| March 30, 2010
| The Editors
Posted on 03/31/2010 5:12:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Unlike the early 90's, we have the Internet and all news isn't filtered through ABC/CBS/CNN/NBC/PBS and the birdcage liners. The people aren't buying this "Tea Partiers are racist militia" tripe this time around.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
I agree. What a load of horsefoodle.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
This is like THE APPLE DUMPLING GANG!
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posted on
03/31/2010 5:16:24 PM PDT
by
tallyhoe
To: 2ndDivisionVet
There’s no evidence whatsoever that the Hutaree are “right wing”.
The criminal charges against them could have been lodged against BIll Ayers (Obama’s friend) and the Weather Underground and not missed a beat.
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posted on
03/31/2010 5:22:48 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
("Git Out The Way")
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Unlike the early 90's, we have the Internet and all news isn't filtered through ABC/CBS/CNN/NBC/PBS and the birdcage liners. The people aren't buying this "Tea Partiers are racist militia" tripe this time around. Huge difference. All of the difference in the world. Which is why they are trying to get the authority to shut down the internet in the event of a "national emergency."
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posted on
03/31/2010 5:24:55 PM PDT
by
Bahbah
(Only dead fish go with the flow)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Very transparent. The left needs a boogy-man. The MSM is useless and should be ignored.
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posted on
03/31/2010 5:27:42 PM PDT
by
alarm rider
(The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hey, Times, Your a waste of trees and you have NO influence anymore. Just more leftie BS.
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posted on
03/31/2010 5:32:44 PM PDT
by
Marty62
(marty60)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
I’m confused. According to the President’s neighbor Bill Ayers, killing police is a good thing.
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posted on
03/31/2010 5:36:25 PM PDT
by
lurk
To: lurk
But for right now; Keep you head down and your powder dry.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Not all of the essays are by leftards; this one is quite good.
The Movements Sharp Divide
Robert H. Churchill is associate professor of history at the University of Hartford. He is the author of Shaking Their Guns in the Tyrants Face: Libertarian Political Violence and the Origins of the Militia Movement.
In the mid 1990s hundreds of militia groups formed across the nation in response to the state-sponsored political violence on display at Ruby Ridge and Waco.
The movement was from its earliest days divided between two wings. Constitutional militias emphasized public meetings and membership open to all races and faiths. Their members were motivated by a fear of increasing state violence directed at gun owners, and they were primarily libertarian in their politics.
The constitutional militias took significant pains to free themselves from entanglement with the White Supremacist right. A smaller wing of the movement was more millenarian in its world view. Militias in this wing tended to organize underground cells. Many were sectarian in their composition, and there was a greater tolerance for the presence of avowed white supremacists in their ranks.
read the rest at the link in the OP
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posted on
03/31/2010 5:40:58 PM PDT
by
Valpal1
("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.")
To: 2ndDivisionVet
The people aren't buying this "Tea Partiers are racist militia" tripe this time around. There's still a lot of folks out there who think the Times & Co. are reliable.
ML/NJ
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posted on
03/31/2010 5:41:53 PM PDT
by
ml/nj
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Many are.
Most people still follow what ever the evening news tells them. And when you add to that the anti Christian/conservative themes on TV (NCIS Los Angelas last night for instance), it becomes part of the culture.
No German in 1920 thought that the concentration camps would happen at first either, but they mainly followed along.
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posted on
03/31/2010 5:50:19 PM PDT
by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: SunkenCiv; cripplecreek; Candor7; little jeremiah; Las Vegas Ron
To: muawiyah
Theres no evidence whatsoever that the Hutaree are right wing.Well, they're supposedly "Christian", white, and possibly...male. None of that would ever be allowed in a Marxist gang.
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posted on
03/31/2010 5:56:10 PM PDT
by
Still Thinking
(Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Isolated groups of rural, trailer park militias are the only thing these Maxwell Smart wannabes seem to want to go after - low-hanging fruit. Nobody is impressed anymore when they send in half a battalion of government cops to take down and handful of loosely-wrapped survivalists. And nobody outside of Manhattan, Berkeley, and the Fourth Estate ruling elites gives the 'extreme right-wing militia threat' boogeyman one ounce of serious consideration. It's the millions and millions of law-abiding, tax-paying, leave-me-the-hell-alone, ordinary citizens who they're going to push too far. Let them try to muster the resources to put a lockdown on a good-sized town, or even an entire county. Hussein would have to suspend the Posse Comitatus Act to try and contain the ensuing uproar, because there wouldn't be enough civilian law enforcement - on any level - to spread around that thinly. He's pretty much kicked the dog one time too many as it is. And, as you said, this is an age that isn't solely reliant on the alphabet networks and dead tree publications to get info on current affairs. Kinda makes you wonder: if it really came down to shit-or-get-off-the-pot time in this country, what percentage of municipal, county, and state personnel would actually follow his dictates after a declaration of martial law? For that matter, to what degree would he get the compliance of the various branches of the military if he
did suspend Posse Comitatus? Things that make ya go 'hmmmmm'.......
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posted on
03/31/2010 5:58:29 PM PDT
by
Viking2002
(Where the hell can I get a court injunction to keep my own government out of my life?!?)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
To: Still Thinking
The Weather Underground was overwhelmingly white, Christian, and male.
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posted on
03/31/2010 6:03:15 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
("Git Out The Way")
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Some basic political concepts might explain the thinking behind this nasty strategy, aside from Manhattan Paranoia/Woody Allen Syndrome, etc. Put simply, the White House would be wasting effort, time and money trying to convince those of us who cannot be persuaded, under any circumstances, ever, to support the re-election of this administration or any Member of Congress who belongs to the present majority on Jenkins Hill. Ordinarily, neither is this energy focused on those who likely to support those candidates under any circumstances. Instead, this energy is spent on the persuadable, but that's not what's happening here.
That the nomenklatura feels a need to hustle their own base with these appeals based on their characteristic bigotry might be a tip off about where they are actually losing support.
If McCain is defeated in the AZ GOP Primary... well, let's just say that, in warfare, the ultimate winners adapt to the field as it is and with its changes, not to the field as they would like it to be.
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posted on
03/31/2010 6:04:37 PM PDT
by
Prospero
(non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
The F.B.I.s raids against members of a Michigan-based Christian militia over the weekend added to concerns about rising far-right activity across the country. I'm more concerned about rising government activity
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posted on
03/31/2010 6:18:25 PM PDT
by
paul51
(11 September 2001 - Never forget)
To: muawiyah
Seriously? The white and male parts yes, but I had no idea most of them identified as Christian.
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posted on
03/31/2010 6:25:54 PM PDT
by
Still Thinking
(Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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