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Calif. GOP Says No To Pot Legalization Measure
AP on CBS 5 ^ | 4/1/10 | AP

Posted on 04/01/2010 5:54:13 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SAN FRANCISCO (CBS 5 / AP) - The California Republican Party is just saying no to a November ballot initiative that would legalize marijuana in the state.

The less-than-surprising news that the state GOP would oppose a measure known as the Tax Cannabis Act was announced Wednesday on the party's Web site.

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Party chairman Ron Nehring said the health and public safety costs of expanded marijuana use would far outweigh any tax revenue raised from legalizing the drug.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbs5.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: California; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: ca2010; california; cannabis; gop; potheads; potlegalization; tenthamendment; wod
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To: 240B
Why we keep pretending that it is not already legal is beyond me

The fact of the matter is that marijuana is NOT been made legal again as of right now. Whether the laws are enforced or not is a different story. REPEAL the law! Quit firing responsible marijuana users from their jobs. Enough w/ the police-state tactics & the hordes of helicopters flying over people's land during the harvest season.

21 posted on 04/01/2010 7:16:01 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (Alright, tighten your shorts, Pilgrim, & sing like the Duke!)
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To: NormsRevenge

22 posted on 04/01/2010 7:38:51 PM PDT by Bobalu (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: Bobalu

Doesn’t count. They’re Canadjians.


23 posted on 04/01/2010 8:02:20 PM PDT by TigersEye (Duncan Hunter, Jim DeMint, Michelle Bachman, ...)
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To: NormsRevenge
Rasmussen has the measure ahead 49-38. Surveys done in May¹, July and November² show that support has risen from 45% to 47% to 49%, while opposition has fallen from 46% to 42% to 38%:

05-12-2009:

45% Support
46% Oppose
9% Undecided

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07-24-2009:

47% support
42% oppose
11% undecided

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11-22-2009:

49% support
38% oppose
12% undecided

¹http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_state_surveys/california/toplines/toplines_california_budget_crisis_may_12_2009

²http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_state_surveys/california/49_in_california_favor_legalizing_taxing_pot

24 posted on 04/01/2010 8:05:05 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: NormsRevenge
I'm a member of the state GOP and I'm thinking the party has made a mistake by even MENTIONING the issue when FAR more prssing things need to be addressed.

Honestly, for the CA GOP: Who Cares?

Besides, the issue will be decided on the Nov ballot, with, or without, GOP input.

Dumb bastards.

25 posted on 04/01/2010 8:08:07 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: ChrisInAR

My father told me that when he was a kid hemp was a weed. It was a real weed. It grew in the ditches and the crop fields.

It was as common as a dandelion.

In fact they used to spray it with weed killer to keep it under control. (that’s not to mention that they made rope and cloth with it)

Then it was made illegal for reasons no one is quite sure about. And now we have this ridiculous situation we have today.

I’m with you brother. I think alcohol is much worse than pot and certainly causes more destruction. (physical damage, emotional damage, societal damage, marital damage )

The whole thing is stupid, completely illogical.

I can’t figure any reason for this obstinate and heavy handed obsession with keeping it illegal except to protect the alcohol industry.

I dunno, its ridiculous.


26 posted on 04/01/2010 8:15:36 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he would'nt and not doing what he said he would)
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To: 240B
Where did the word 'marijuana' come from? In the mid 1930s, the M-word was created to tarnish the good image and phenomenal history of the hemp plant...as you will read. The facts cited here, with references, are generally verifiable in the Encyclopedia Britannica which was printed on hemp paper for 150 years:

* All schoolbooks were made from hemp or flax paper until the 1880s; Hemp Paper Reconsidered, Jack Frazier, 1974.

* It was LEGAL TO PAY TAXES WITH HEMP in America from 1631 until the early 1800s; LA Times, Aug. 12, 1981.

* REFUSING TO GROW HEMP in America during the 17th and 18th Centuries WAS AGAINST THE LAW! You could be jailed in Virginia for refusing to grow hemp from 1763 to 1769; Hemp in Colonial Virginia, G. M. Herdon.

* George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and other founding fathers GREW HEMP; Washington and Jefferson Diaries. Jefferson smuggled hemp seeds from China to France then to America.

* Benjamin Franklin owned one of the first paper mills in America and it processed hemp. Also, the War of 1812 was fought over hemp. Napoleon wanted to cut off Moscow's export to England; Emperor Wears No Clothes, Jack Herer.

* For thousands of years, 90% of all ships' sails and rope were made from hemp. The word 'canvas' is Dutch for cannabis; Webster's New World Dictionary.

* 80% of all textiles, fabrics, clothes, linen, drapes, bed sheets, etc. were made from hemp until the 1820s with the introduction of the cotton gin.

* The first Bibles, maps, charts, Betsy Ross's flag, the first drafts of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were made from hemp; U.S. Government Archives.

* The first crop grown in many states was hemp. 1850 was a peak year for Kentucky producing 40,000 tons. Hemp was the largest cash crop until the 20th Century; State Archives.

* Oldest known records of hemp farming go back 5000 years in China, although hemp industrialization probably goes back to ancient Egypt.

* Rembrants, Gainsboroughs, Van Goghs as well as most early canvas paintings were principally painted on hemp linen.

* In 1916, the U.S. Government predicted that by the 1940s all paper would come from hemp and that no more trees need to be cut down. Government studies report that 1 acre of hemp equals 4.1 acres of trees. Plans were in the works to implement such programs; Department of Agriculture

* Quality paints and varnishes were made from hemp seed oil until 1937. 58,000 tons of hemp seeds were used in America for paint products in 1935; Sherman Williams Paint Co. testimony before Congress against the 1937 Marijuana Tax Act.

* Henry Ford's first Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the CAR ITSELF WAS CONTRUCTED FROM HEMP! On his large estate, Ford was photographed among his hemp fields. The car, 'grown from the soil,' had hemp plastic panels whose impact strength was 10 times stronger than steel; Popular Mechanics, 1941.

* Hemp called 'Billion Dollar Crop.' It was the first time a cash crop had a business potential to exceed a billion dollars; Popular Mechanics, Feb., 1938.

* Mechanical Engineering Magazine (Feb. 1938) published an article entitled 'The Most Profitable and Desirable Crop that Can be Grown.' It stated that if hemp was cultivated using 20th Century technology, it would be the single largest agricultural crop in the U.S. and the rest of the world.

The following information comes directly from the United States Department of Agriculture's 1942 14-minute film encouraging and instructing 'patriotic American farmers' to grow 350,000 acres of hemp each year for the war effort:

The rest is at this link...

27 posted on 04/01/2010 8:37:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (Duncan Hunter, Jim DeMint, Michelle Bachman, ...)
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To: 240B

Have you read George Washington’s Diary? He wrote about his own efforts @ growing marijuana (i.e., hemp) & I think the last chapter is called “Hemp As A Fibre Crop”.

He also mentioned, however, that he seperated his male plants from his female plants “a little too late”. Hmmmmmmm...I wonder what the purpose for doing THAT was, LOL? I think Presidents Jefferson, Madison, & Jackson also grew marijuana, if not even a few other Presidents-to-be.

As far as marijuana being made illegal, we can thank the Progressive movement of the early 20th century for that. FDR made it illegal in 1937, & @ the time most pot smokers were blacks & Hispanics in the South — so I think there were racial overtones to it. The Progressives believed that they could create a more moral person or what have you, & supported euthanasia, they passed the 18th Amendment prohibiting alcohol, etc.

I also suggest that you watch the movie REEFER MADNESS, which was created around 1936 or so. It’s considered to be a stoner’s classic today, but back then they were dead serious about how “evil” marijuana was & how it (a-hem) lead to murder, rape, yada yada yada. Nancy Reagan would have loved it!


28 posted on 04/01/2010 8:43:32 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (Alright, tighten your shorts, Pilgrim, & sing like the Duke!)
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To: 240B

Oh yeah, I think the Hearst newspaper enpire has a lot to do w/ criminalizing marijuana, too.

Joe Biden was one of the creators of the Drug War when he was in the Senate back in the early 1970’s (remember that Delaware is a big chemical company state, IIRC).


29 posted on 04/01/2010 8:47:47 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (Alright, tighten your shorts, Pilgrim, & sing like the Duke!)
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To: TigersEye

Thanks a lot.
I didn’t know any of that stuff.
Good read.


30 posted on 04/01/2010 9:04:57 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he would'nt and not doing what he said he would)
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To: Mariner
You should ask the CA GOP if they will stand up and support CA's authority under the Tenth Amendment to enact such a policy, should the measure pass.

I'll bet you'd get some interesting answers.

31 posted on 04/01/2010 9:05:19 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: 240B

You’re welcome. I’m glad it wasn’t an overload. You could also Google “DuPont, Mellon and/or Hearst” in association with the Marihuana Tax Stamp Act. They all had a huge economic motivation to eliminate hemp fiber from competition with their industrial interests.


32 posted on 04/01/2010 9:15:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (Duncan Hunter, Jim DeMint, Michelle Bachman, ...)
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To: TigersEye

From their obsessive almost manic determination to keep it illegal, I always knew something was going on. I just didn’t know what. The confusion in my posts was genuine.

As if I have time in my life to worry about if someone is smoking a joint or not. Who cares?

The triviality of it always confused me, but now I see there is a much bigger picture.

A Puritan is a person who sits around worrying that someone somewhere is having fun. The GOP, apparently, sits around worrying that someone somewhere is smoking a joint.

Puleez there’s nothing more important to worry about?


33 posted on 04/01/2010 9:31:32 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he would'nt and not doing what he said he would)
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To: 240B

I know what you mean. There is more than a little statist impulse that manifests on the right. I think I finally had it with both parties when no-knock raids were approved of under Reagan for the purpose of fighting the war on drugs. My first thought then, as it is now, is that “this will be used to confiscate our guns one day.”


34 posted on 04/01/2010 9:40:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (Duncan Hunter, Jim DeMint, Michelle Bachman, ...)
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To: TigersEye
I know what you mean. There is more than a little statist impulse that manifests on the right.

I disagree. Maybe my political views of "Left" & "Right" are way off base, but, IMO, if you have strong, statist positions, you are NOT on the right:

TOTAL gov't (Left) ----------> NO gov't (Right)

I believe that if this was a # line from 0 to 10 from left to right, our federal government would have been found around 8.5 or 9. McCain/Bush would be around a 6; Blue Dog democrats would be about 4 or 5, & Obama would be around 2 or 3.

What do you think?

35 posted on 04/02/2010 4:36:39 AM PDT by ChrisInAR (Alright, tighten your shorts, Pilgrim, & sing like the Duke!)
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To: ChrisInAR
TOTAL gov't (Left) ----------> NO gov't (Right)

In my mind, the extreme left would be an all powerful government - perhaps a feudal king or fascism. On the right is zero government, which is defined as anarchy. Once you define the smallest societal rule or law, even requiring people to drive on the right side of the road, declaring theft illegal, recognizing private property, or establishing a currency, you creep back from the extreme right.

Conservatism, I believe cannot be defined precisely on that scale. Rather it is the underlying belief system that says that laws exist to protect the rights of the people, sometimes acknowledging that the rights of some may be compromised to protect the rights of others. Sometimes that underlying belief pushes you far away from the extreme right of the scale you defined. Enforcement of contracts and protection of private property come to mind.

I don't know if that adds anything, but the scale just isn't all that clear to me when allowed to go to the extremes.

36 posted on 04/02/2010 5:14:40 AM PDT by TN4Liberty (My tagline disappeared so this is my new one.)
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To: TN4Liberty

That’s why I added the 0 to 10 numeration w/in the scale of extremes. BOTH extremes are an impossibility to create, therefore the gov’t that we are looking for must be somewhere in between. The question is, where in that scale should we be as a free People?

Like I said, the Founders created a government that was very limited in scope & power, while recognizing that the states from which it was formed retained their authority to move as far to either the left or the right on that scale as the People so desired. The size of the federal government was fixed, while those of the states were not.


37 posted on 04/02/2010 5:40:53 AM PDT by ChrisInAR (Alright, tighten your shorts, Pilgrim, & sing like the Duke!)
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To: ChrisInAR
TOTAL gov't (Left) ----------> NO gov't (Right)

That's more authoritarian vs. libertarian.


38 posted on 04/02/2010 5:55:47 AM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Doe Eyes

I have taken that political quiz (I used to be a card-carrying member of the LP), & IIRC, I ranked as a “radical” libertarian. :-)


39 posted on 04/02/2010 6:01:12 AM PDT by ChrisInAR (Alright, tighten your shorts, Pilgrim, & sing like the Duke!)
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To: ChrisInAR
I ranked as a “radical” libertarian.

You find most conservatives supporting more government to control abortion, pornography, drug use, to freely travel to Cuba ...

40 posted on 04/02/2010 6:05:52 AM PDT by Doe Eyes
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