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Indiana School Not Canceling Graduation Prayer Without Judge Order
Associated Post through Fox News ^ | 04/02/2010 | Staff

Posted on 04/02/2010 11:18:58 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman

A central Indiana district isn't calling off a planned high school graduation prayer unless a federal judge orders it. GREENWOOD, Ind. -- A central Indiana district isn't calling off a planned high school graduation prayer unless a federal judge orders it. Greenwood School Board president Joe Farley says the district wants the judge to decide the merits of a lawsuit filed by the school's top-ranked senior. Greenwood High School student Eric Workman is asking a federal judge to stop a student-led prayer that the senior class voted to approve. The lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Indiana on the 18-year-old's behalf claims that the prayer and class vote unconstitutionally subject students to religious practice. The school district has until April 16 to respond to the lawsuit, and a court hearing is scheduled for April 30. The district's attorneys didn't immediately return telephone messages seeking comment Friday.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: aclu; arth; commencements; graduation; moralabsolutes; prayer; purge
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1 posted on 04/02/2010 11:18:58 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman
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To: Outlaw Woman

Given the quality and lack of integrity of our federal judges, even if he/she/it banned the prayer, it’s time we started replying, “Shove it up your Obama.”


2 posted on 04/02/2010 11:20:35 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Outlaw Woman

Mr. Workman needs to get a temporary restraining order, citing the distinct possibility of irreparable harm, should he be exposed to prayer.


3 posted on 04/02/2010 11:22:20 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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To: Da Coyote

Absolutely.


4 posted on 04/02/2010 11:22:38 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Control the American people? Herding cats would be easier.)
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To: Da Coyote

Agree whole heartedly.


5 posted on 04/02/2010 11:22:46 AM PDT by jesseam (Been there, done that)
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To: Outlaw Woman
Amendent 1A - Freedom of religion (not FROM RELIGION)
Amendent 1B - Freedom of speech
Amendment 2 - Freedom to carry a gun to insure 1A & 1B remain intact.
6 posted on 04/02/2010 11:24:31 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: Outlaw Woman

If the order to shut them up does come down, what would the Feds do (local police do) if most of the graduating students (and even spectators) decide to say it out loud in unison?


7 posted on 04/02/2010 11:25:15 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine
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If the order to shut them up does come down, what would the Feds do (local police do) if most of the graduating students (and even spectators) decide to say it out loud in unison?

Most police I know would join in for the prayer. As for this tool of the ACLU, I hope he can handle being shunned.

8 posted on 04/02/2010 11:27:34 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

did you forget the /s?


9 posted on 04/02/2010 11:27:40 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Control the American people? Herding cats would be easier.)
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To: Pollster1

But then you have the cops who will blindly follow orders and start arresting and tasing people. Maybe throw in a K9 unit or two to get the jaws of justice to take a bite out of crime. More people would resist, riot breaks out, riot police called, and on and on.


10 posted on 04/02/2010 11:30:36 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

If this student does file for such an order, someone needs to submit to the court the scientific studies that indicate prayer helps those who are sick.


11 posted on 04/02/2010 11:31:24 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (Wer glaubt ist nie allein. Who believes is never alone.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
I don't know what would happen but that is exactly what we must start doing. It's time to start asserting, more firmly, our Constitutional rights
12 posted on 04/02/2010 11:33:32 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Control the American people? Herding cats would be easier.)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Funny. So if a federal judge issues a restraining order then how could local police be expected to enforce it? After all, isn’t this one of those “federal issues” that we continue to be told that only the federal government can enforce?


13 posted on 04/02/2010 11:35:12 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Maybe another response to this would be for parents to organize private graduation ceremonies. The official one at the school isn’t necessarily a required event.


14 posted on 04/02/2010 11:39:44 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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If the Judge does go against them then maybe the parents should break out into the Father’s Prayer at the Graduation at a pre-set time. Good luck trying to get an injuction against that.


15 posted on 04/02/2010 11:40:41 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Outlaw Woman
Go to the judges court. Pray for him

Rinse and repeat.

16 posted on 04/02/2010 11:42:43 AM PDT by magslinger (Cry MALAISE! and let slip the dogs of incompetence.)
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To: pnh102
I can see those headlines now... LOCAL POLICE STAND BY WHILE FBI, CIA, ATF, IRS, & SS STORM HIGH SCHOOL PROM FOR VIOLATION OF FEDERAL ORDER
17 posted on 04/02/2010 11:46:05 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Control the American people? Herding cats would be easier.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Not totally sure. There is no cause of action against a private individual for a violation of constitutional rights (in other words, I, private citizen, cannot violate your constitutional rights, and you therefore can't sue me for that). Might be a suit against the district for something like not doing more to stop it, but I can't think of a way that could be proven off hand...
18 posted on 04/02/2010 11:47:05 AM PDT by Grn_Lantern (Let's go to work....)
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To: Outlaw Woman
the 18-year-old's ... claims that the prayer and class vote unconstitutionally subject students to religious practice...

Which part of "abridging the freedom of speech..." in the constitution, or "with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence" in the declaration will they hang their argument on?

19 posted on 04/02/2010 11:47:35 AM PDT by C210N (A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: pnh102
Interesting thought.
20 posted on 04/02/2010 11:48:20 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Control the American people? Herding cats would be easier.)
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