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Some right-wingers ignore facts as they rewrite U.S. history (Emesis Alert)
Yahoo - McClatchy ^ | 04/02/10 | Steven Thomma

Posted on 04/02/2010 1:06:39 PM PDT by Borges

The right is rewriting history.

The most ballyhooed effort is under way in Texas , where conservatives have pushed the state school board to rewrite guidelines, downplaying Thomas Jefferson in one high school course, playing up such conservatives as Phyllis Schlafly and the Heritage Foundation and challenging the idea that the Founding Fathers wanted to separate church and state.

The effort reaches far beyond one state, however.

In articles and speeches, on radio and TV, conservatives are working to redefine major turning points and influential figures in American history, often to slam liberals, promote Republicans and reinforce their positions in today's politics.

The Jamestown settlers? Socialists. Founding Father Alexander Hamilton ? Ill-informed professors made up all that bunk about him advocating a strong central government.

Theodore Roosevelt ? Another socialist. Franklin D. Roosevelt ? Not only did he not end the Great Depression, he also created it.

Joe McCarthy ? Liberals lied about him. He was a hero.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: academicbias; dnctalkingpoints; indoctrination; littleredschoolhouse; pravdamedia; spewalert; texas; textbooks
This was a direct link on Yahoo's front page. Is it supposed to be a news story or an editorial?
1 posted on 04/02/2010 1:06:39 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

How about McClatchy reporters Douglas and Rosen who basically made up the whole racist smear of the tea-party protests outside the capitol when Nanzy was taking over healthcare?

Names— Douglas. Rosen. Evil, lying manipulators, paid by McClatchy.


2 posted on 04/02/2010 1:09:54 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Cameras, cameras--never forget to bring your cameras)
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To: Borges

The article supplies absolutely no text, or proposed text, in any curriculum textbook. A better title might be, “People Who Are Conservative: Oh My Gosh, They’re On Some School Boards.”


3 posted on 04/02/2010 1:10:38 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: Borges
This was a direct link on Yahoo's front page. Is it supposed to be a news story or an editorial?

Given the fact that left wing sources don't report news it'd have to be an editorial.

4 posted on 04/02/2010 1:11:00 PM PDT by highlander_UW (Happiness doesn't come from owning something; it comes from being a part of something)
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To: highlander_UW

It’s sick how many people can’t think for themselves and write utter crap like this.


5 posted on 04/02/2010 1:11:48 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: Borges

Classic example of accuse your enemy of the very conduct you are guilty of (Projection?)- and the reason for my tagline.


6 posted on 04/02/2010 1:13:55 PM PDT by SloopJohnB (It it wasn't for Double Standards, the Left would have No Standards.)
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To: highlander_UW

Yahoo is usually not this egregious.


7 posted on 04/02/2010 1:14:04 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
Someone in Texas Government singled out Fox News for “making it up” when references to Christmas and other things had been stripped from the curriculum (they had been) since they were later restored.

The media is blowing the “Thomas Jefferson” thing out of context since TJ is in other coursework (he was removed from a discussion of philosophers).

8 posted on 04/02/2010 1:14:08 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: Borges
Franklin D. Roosevelt ? Not only did he not end the Great Depression, he also created it. --- Created, no. Prolonged it with bad policies some implemented for selfish political reasons - Yes.

Joe McCarthy ? Liberals lied about him. He was a hero.--- He was proved right and the Godfather of one of Robert Kennedy's children was vindicated in the eyes of everyone except the left.

9 posted on 04/02/2010 1:16:47 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (At least Hitler got the Olympics for Germany)
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To: 1riot1ranger; Action-America; Aggie Mama; Alkhin; Allegra; American72; antivenom; Antoninus II; ...

Texas Education Agency: Fox News is lying
Thursday, March 11, 2010 1:17:09 PM · by a fool in paradise · 58 replies · 2,195+ views
Houston Chronicle ^ | March 10, 2010 | Jason Spencer
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2468921/posts

I have yet to see the same people take the REST of the media to task for misreporting details.


10 posted on 04/02/2010 1:17:19 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: Borges
Is it supposed to be a news story or an editorial?

Seems more like a cartoon.

11 posted on 04/02/2010 1:17:30 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Borges
This was a direct link on Yahoo's front page. Is it supposed to be a news story or an editorial?

Given that reporters have gone out of their way to editorialize the stories they're covering, low odds this is an actual news article.

12 posted on 04/02/2010 1:18:02 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Ked Tennedy would have been plowed... I mean, proud today..." - Senator Max Baucus (Drunk-MT))
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To: Borges
challenging the idea that the Founding Fathers wanted to separate church and state.

I love the "seperation of church and state" thing. Liberals love to quote this though it isn't in the constitution, but rather a letter Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptists.

Yet there is hell to pay if conservatives use the Federalist papers to show the context of a citizen's right to bear arms, or anything that goes against the idea of a "living constitution" (small c intentional).

13 posted on 04/02/2010 1:19:35 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Borges
challenging the idea that the Founding Fathers wanted to separate church and state.

Sounds like the author wants to rewrite history as well.

The founding fathers were concerned, and tried to instill, a separation of the POWERS of CHURCH and STATE.

14 posted on 04/02/2010 1:19:44 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Borges
Yahoo is usually not this egregious.

Thus, the emesis.

15 posted on 04/02/2010 1:20:40 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: darkangel82
==It’s sick how many people can’t think for themselves and write utter crap like this.==

The radical Left as a talent for spewing out emesis!

16 posted on 04/02/2010 1:22:02 PM PDT by SloopJohnB (It it wasn't for Double Standards, the Left would have No Standards.)
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To: Borges

“Joe McCarthy ? Liberals lied about him...”

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/venona/index

Stick a sock in it.

Today the Leftists are whipping up a partisan witchhunt hysteria of “rabid rightwing extremists” just because people point out that Obamacare is SOCIALIST.


17 posted on 04/02/2010 1:22:23 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: Borges

McClatchey - Liberal moutpiece of lies, hypocricy, the victim narrative...posing a news.


18 posted on 04/02/2010 1:23:22 PM PDT by wac3rd (SYCASUSE)
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To: Borges
challenging the idea that the Founding Fathers wanted to separate church and state.

They sought to prevent the establishment of a State Church, such as the Church of England that tormented many of their forebears, as did the Catholic Church that preceded it as State Church of England.

Above and beyond England, which was not the heritage of all the colonists, there was the very same sort of persecution at the hands of State Churches across Europe, the vast majority of which were Catholic.

So, no State Church. It was in the interests of all the citizens of the new Nation. It was prohibited by the supreme law of the land. This is what was meant by religious freedom.

In the present day, the so-called "establishment clause" has been sorely and deliberately misconstrued, to the point of prohibiting the profession of a particular religious belief, when in fact the intent is to outlaw such a prohibition.

That's the problem.

19 posted on 04/02/2010 1:28:36 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: SloopJohnB
Classic example of accuse your enemy of the very conduct you are guilty of

The DEMS are FOR separation of Church and State.

WHY?

Because they actually want to mix Church and State. Just not the Christian, Catholic, or Jewish Church.

Note the passing, by our government, of laws that cater to Sharia Law.

20 posted on 04/02/2010 1:29:30 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Borges
just collaborators
21 posted on 04/02/2010 1:29:35 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: Borges
Liberal traitors projecting their past 30 years of academic lies and deceit upon those of us on the right that are the last bastion of truth and who BELIEVE IN THE ONE TRUE GOD!

LLS

22 posted on 04/02/2010 1:29:55 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: Borges
Yahoo is usually not this egregious.

That is the sort of piece that would be met with cheers on Huffington Post or DU.

23 posted on 04/02/2010 1:30:57 PM PDT by highlander_UW (Happiness doesn't come from owning something; it comes from being a part of something)
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To: Borges

McClatchy marches off the beaten path of news ‘reporting’ and always has,, one of the true dinosaurs of the times,, Yahoo is actually becoming a “producer” of news and compete with teh wire services , etc.

There is significant money to be made in the news biz and what you can ‘sell’ as news.

call it a perspective piece. ;-)


24 posted on 04/02/2010 1:35:21 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
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To: Borges
M. Stanton Evans discussed this topic in Imprimis Magazine in 1995. In his article, he made the case that the 1st amendment specifically forbade Congressional action against states that had official religions at the time.
article link
25 posted on 04/02/2010 1:35:24 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: SloopJohnB

Indeed they do. Sick, literally.


26 posted on 04/02/2010 1:39:57 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: Borges

Well, SOMEONE has been re-writing history for a while now. Not the conservatives in my opinion.

Champions of civil rights? The Democrats.
Champions of women’s liberty? The feminists.
Imperialist overlord of the world? The United States.
Greatest president ever? JFK.
Communism? A valid and valuable political system?
Capitalism? A method for exploiting the poor.

Etc.


27 posted on 04/02/2010 1:40:40 PM PDT by Persevero (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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To: Borges
THOMMA: “. . .In fact, in 1619, Jamestown planters imported the first African slaves to the 13 colonies that later formed the United States. . .”

The colonists didn't import any slaves. The African captives arrived on a Dutch slave ship whose captain and crew were looking for fresh provisions. The colonists accepted the Africans in exchange for provisioning the ship and the Africans became indentured servants, allowed to earn their freedom through labor.

[. . .The other crucial event that would play a role in the development of America was the arrival of Africans to Jamestown. A Dutch slave trader exchanged his cargo of Africans for food in 1619. The Africans became indentured servants, similar in legal position to many poor Englishmen who traded several years of labor in exchange for passage to America. The popular conception of a race-based slave system did not fully develop until the 1680s.]

http://www.preservationvirginia.org/rediscovery/page.php?page_id=6

28 posted on 04/02/2010 1:43:40 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

There were several states that had established State Churches, after the Constitution was ratified. Connecticut was the last state to disestablish their State Church, in 1833 I believe, but South Carolina, New Hampshire and perhaps others had a State Church up to the early 1790’s.

It’s sort of a feeble argument to make, that the 1st Amendment only applied to the nation-state and not to the several states that comprised it, imho. The disestablishment of State Churches by all but a few states tends to support the understanding that the 1st did in fact apply to the states.


29 posted on 04/02/2010 1:46:06 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Borges
Is it supposed to be a news story or an editorial?

Neither. It is propaganda.

30 posted on 04/02/2010 1:47:02 PM PDT by magslinger (Cry MALAISE! and let slip the dogs of incompetence.)
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To: Borges

Roosevelt “ended the great depression???” Typical from Yahoo! No need to read any further.


31 posted on 04/02/2010 1:49:49 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Borges

Someone alert me when someone in the media ever does a critical review of a Noam Chomsky or Howard Zinn version of US history.


32 posted on 04/02/2010 1:55:28 PM PDT by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: garbanzo
Someone alert me when someone in the media ever does a critical review of a Noam Chomsky or Howard Zinn version of US history.

You mean critical as in fact checking and good old fashioned journalism?

ROFLMAO!

33 posted on 04/02/2010 1:59:18 PM PDT by magslinger (Cry MALAISE! and let slip the dogs of incompetence.)
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To: darkangel82

Did you go to the site and read the comments? I read as many as I could stomach. No wonder this country is so messed up and to think these people vote. Plain out scary.


34 posted on 04/02/2010 2:03:48 PM PDT by MamaB (If you see someone without a smile, give them yours.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The headrights system collapsed in the 1680’s. It meant the right to claim land in exchange for transporting a certain number of “heads” to the colony, hence “headrights.” Those indenturing themselves weren’t always poor, let alone criminal and indentured by force. They were sometimes younger sons of the merchant class or even minor nobility. Primogeniture laws prohibited inheritance to all but the eldest son, and so those with no inheritance indentured themselves to get over to America, worked off the term of their indenture, typically seven to ten years, and had land as a result, if they weren’t defrauded of it (which happened with some frequency).

The first owner of an African slave, as we understand slavery, was himself a black man, in Virginia. He, himself was a former indentured servant, who had worked off the term of his indenture. In the age of indentured servants from the British Isles or Europe, Africans were something of a status symbol and exotic, and were treated well by comparison, according to accounts that I’ve read.

After the slave trade began in earnest due to the collapse of this headrights system, this changed to a degree. But, the horror stories that paint the entire practice as having slaughtered Africans without conscience, and as having treated them very poorly as a rule, are exaggeration. They were expensive, they were necessary and they were treated better than is generally acknowledged, to the point of sharing living quarters and houses of worship in many rural settings.

Would I want to be “owned” by another, and worked like a farm animal? No, I wouldn’t, and I’d resent it. So, I’m not advocating so much as pointing out that some historical accounts are skewed through the lense of modern understanding. The institution of bondage, in it’s various forms, had always existed and was accepted or at least tolerated, at that point in time, and to act as if it wasn’t is to fall prey to odd, ahistoric conclusions.


35 posted on 04/02/2010 2:03:48 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Borges

“Yahoo is usually not this egregious.”

Show me ONE time Yahoo reprints anything from a conservative source.


36 posted on 04/02/2010 2:24:39 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: Borges
I've read about some of these changes and it seems to me we DO need another review.

How could ANY conservative downplay the role of Thomas Jefferson? Or think that Hamilton didn't advocate a strong central government?

Why the heck would ANYONE put Schaffly in a history book?

Over-zealous religious expression to the detriment of kids and society as a whole.

37 posted on 04/02/2010 3:04:09 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Borges

Here is another McClatchy News / Steven Thomma article:

Here’s The Truth: ‘Birther’ Claims Are Just Plain Nuts

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/07/30/72794/heres-the-truth-birther-claims.html

Here’s The Truth: ‘Birther’ Claims Are Just Plain Nuts [Consider The Source: McClatchy]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2304950/posts


38 posted on 04/02/2010 3:25:03 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
I appreciate your detailed knowledge and your insight.
39 posted on 04/02/2010 3:41:37 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Well, thanks, it’s just cumulative bits and pieces, through years of personal genealogy research.

If there’s one thing I’d like people to understand, it’s that there is no shame in having an ancestor who was transported. They often did it of their own volition, to get to America for the opportunity it represented, and had no other means due to the laws of the time.


40 posted on 04/02/2010 3:50:21 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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