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Amish unaffected by new health law (Commiecare™ - So, You Want To Be Amish?)
Lancaster Online ^ | 3/28/10 | JON RUTTER

Posted on 04/03/2010 7:27:21 AM PDT by Libloather

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To: dirtboy

I guess I’m missing something. Here in corn country where folks depend greatly on farm equipment I see absolutely no road damage. Perhaps the fine folks from PA could take a lesson from Indiana on building general use roads and highways.


61 posted on 04/03/2010 8:39:25 AM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98...PROCESS MATTERS)
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To: cripplecreek

I grew up in a church that was a direct off shoot of the Mennonite church, all the same beliefs, except not plain, so no anti-government self sufficiency, either. The earliest mention that I can find of my mother’s family was the sale of a farm in the heart of Amish country in 1740 and the hill where the farm was located still bears the family name. I suspect that the ancestor left the Amish beliefs when he sold the farm.


62 posted on 04/03/2010 8:43:25 AM PDT by Eva
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To: KevinDavis

Hell yes it is. THese stupid commies in DC are going to a rebellion


63 posted on 04/03/2010 8:46:00 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

Pennsylva can use lessons in good government from other states in just about every aspect of governance, we raise bad government to an art form (eclipsed only by New Jersey, which is Baja Pennsylvania as it is). But beyond that, this issue is a hot-button one in many Amish areas, including Indiana. And it isn’t just steel wheels, horseshoes can also cause damage, and you can’t change that easily with a horse-drawn vehicle.


64 posted on 04/03/2010 8:48:10 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: KevinDavis
Does this violate the 1st Amendment????
And what about the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment:
65 posted on 04/03/2010 8:48:59 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: nmh

>> Years ago I worked for Allstate Insurance ... The Amish REFUSED payment for medical care and REFUSED any other form of payment ... the Amish REFUSED offers from Allstate for any financial assistance. They refused to sign any forms.

The Amish are not the only ones that do this. In 1989 I was a passenger in a serious head-on car accident (70 mph closure rate). I was in agony for 6 weeks - I had broken my sternum and ended up with a split heartbeat. Since my employer’s insurance company paid the hospital bill, I never filed, or collected a dime from the motorist’s insurance company. They incessantly nagged me for a year. I never signed anything, either.


66 posted on 04/03/2010 9:10:44 AM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues
I expect obamama and thugs to take over trucking in the not to distant future.

they are making it near impossible for truckers/industry to survive. WELL over half a million truckers off the road since this bunch took over...

and literally thousands of trucking companies out of business. Gov't policies are designed to drive small companies out of business and independent owner/operators off the road - thereby concentrating trucking to a hand full of big companies - the easier for a government takeover. Now, a mantra of despots is: “Control the food, control the people.”

There is ONE days worth of food in the local supermarkets - AND warehouses. If the trucks don't roll?

Or if the trucks are controlled?

For the last 50-60 years, society as a whole, has, for the first time in history, become a dependent society...People have allowed themselves to become dependent on that thin wire from house to phone poll.

No longer independent - no longer producing any of their own food, tied to municipal services for water/sewer/power.
At the flick of an Executive Order - society is OWNED, lock, stock and food barrel.

Many people are able to read the writing on the wall and are growing gardens and making other self-sufficent moves. But that will hardly stem the tide for the majority.

It may be only little pockets of folk here and there that will able to ride out what is planned for us.

67 posted on 04/03/2010 9:20:07 AM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: All

Gee I just remembered that I am Amish


68 posted on 04/03/2010 9:32:38 AM PDT by troy McClure
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To: nmh

Yeah, she succumbed to temptation...

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b172328_who_jesse_james_alleged_other_woman.html

Raised Amish...Looks like not only she fell off the tree, but the planet for tha matter...


69 posted on 04/03/2010 9:41:03 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: dirtboy

Great, more liberal trolls.

You are telling me that steel rims do more damage than 18 wheelers?


70 posted on 04/03/2010 9:44:42 AM PDT by BenKenobi ("we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be")
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To: QBFimi

I have the same with mine. Since I’m a young guy everybody wants me paying insurance. Why should I bother? I’m young, I’m healthy, I’d rather cover what costs I do have out of pocket. I’ve found I get discounts too when I’m paying cash to the people who really keep me well.


71 posted on 04/03/2010 9:46:46 AM PDT by BenKenobi ("we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be")
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To: B Knotts

I don’t see why not. That’s how I’m treating Obamacare.


72 posted on 04/03/2010 9:47:29 AM PDT by BenKenobi ("we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be")
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To: BenKenobi
Newb, you're calling someone who has been here since 1998 a liberal troll?

18-wheelers pay gas taxes, last I checked, BTW - lots of them.

73 posted on 04/03/2010 10:07:52 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Is there a constitutional angle to attack this bill because of the “special” religious exemptions.
74 posted on 04/03/2010 1:02:09 PM PDT by joelt
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To: cripplecreek

“Conservatives would do well to look to the self reliance of the Amish as a means of limiting the power of government. People whine and cry about the feds taking states rights but in most cases the states sell [our] rights in return for federal [enslavement].”

Amen to that, with a slight modification. ;)


75 posted on 04/03/2010 4:16:01 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with Chocolate.)
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To: joelt

Yes. See post 48.


76 posted on 04/03/2010 4:29:30 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Libloather

Interesting.

Thanks.


77 posted on 04/03/2010 4:37:59 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: dirtboy

I’m not against 18-wheelers.

I just find it hard to believe that the steel rims would cause more damage than 18 wheelers.


78 posted on 04/03/2010 8:35:23 PM PDT by BenKenobi ("we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be")
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To: dirtboy

I’ve actually seen both when I visited Amish country...some of the buggy’s did have rubber strips on their wheels. Some didn’t.

I would imagine a nice rubber strip would lessen the vibrations felt in the buggy considerably; might increase drag however and there-fore the work load on the horse.


79 posted on 04/04/2010 5:52:46 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Mike Mathis is my name,opinions are my own,subject to flaming when deserved!)
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To: BenKenobi

2 metal strips, 2 to 3 inches in width concentrating what about 1500 pounds(750 lbs each side) or so of humans and buggy onto asphalt on a warmish day multiplied by dozens of buggies a day would put ruts into roads. I don’t see where the addition of rubber strips or balloon tires helps the road situation since the diameter and force applied is still the same.(a careful design of wheel and axle housing design and rubber however, could redirect vertical force energy forward aiding the horse and away from the road.)

In addition, by adding rubber, drag is added though a balloon tire type situation might ameliorate shock. A better solution might be to widen the wheels to a width that the horse can still pull (what with the added weight), yet wide enough to spread out the concentrated forces so that the rut cuts to the road are minimized.


80 posted on 04/04/2010 6:16:25 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Mike Mathis is my name,opinions are my own,subject to flaming when deserved!)
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