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Karl Rove is no conservative, as his memoir shows (stating the obvious alert)
Washington Post ^ | April 4, 2009 | Craig Shirley and Donald Devine

Posted on 04/03/2010 9:14:23 AM PDT by Zakeet

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To: Jim 0216
Yeah, Old Money has a lot of wisdom about capital formation and promoting business, but they still have the unfortunate habit of trying to improve productivity by repealing federal regs forbidding workplace floggings. ;)

But the alliance between Money and Main Street is so uneasy, and it so often takes the form of Money basically blackmailing Main Street like they did in 1980: Put our guy Bush on the bottom of the ticket and give him all kinds of patronage nod and White House staff jobs (so we can control your calendar), or we'll do what we did for Barry in '64: stiff you on political money and give the big papers lots of negative quotes to work with while they ride your guy down.

61 posted on 04/03/2010 2:11:36 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: SoConPubbie

Bush is a Rockefeller Republican, so is Karl Rove. Rockefeller Republican means RINO. Bushes repeatedly told that “the era of Reagan is over”. Bush’s reckless policies paved a way to Obama’s socialist policies. Of course, Zero would implement his policies any way, but he had chance to bleme Bush. The only one thing about Bush is that he is a patriot and he definetely likes this country. The same cannot be said about Zero.


62 posted on 04/03/2010 2:23:09 PM PDT by concernedforusa
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To: lentulusgracchus
Old Money has a lot of wisdom about capital formation and promoting business,

But Old Money's wisdom is checked in at the door of government while it seeks gov't for a competitive edge or favorable market conditions. Big business is a huge political problem because it exacerbates and encourages big government, America’s greatest political threat. However, the push Old Money and Big Business gives to Big Government would be stopped at the 10th Amendment of the Constitution. The key is integrity especially in government. (HA!) Business just goes where the profits and competitive edge are.

The leverage in the nasty relationship between Big Business and government is that government is limited by the Constitution. Business then would have to look elsewhere (where they should) for their competitive edge. The answer is never regulating business and the free market but forcing politicians to abide by the Constitution. Otherwise we have a commensurate bigger and more threatening government.

63 posted on 04/03/2010 3:11:52 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: AuntB
Just so. Anyone who sneers at the idea of a teenager learning first hand what it is like to do honest labor, is someone who is no damn good. If Rove really said that, then F* him. He's a pantywaist elitist chicken sh*t
64 posted on 04/03/2010 3:35:15 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

... and he wants brown people to do the stoop labor that he doesn’t want his own son to do. He doesn’t like brown people very much, apparently.


65 posted on 04/03/2010 3:36:50 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: hinckley buzzard

“If Rove really said that, then F* him. He’s a pantywaist elitist chicken sh*t”

Thanks. I didn’t double source that quote. Kirkorian is usually a pretty good source. But I should have double checked. There are other reports of this and I can’t find any denial of it by Rove.

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Rove_on_immigration_I_dont_want_0209.html

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/02/white_house_red.html

Rotten Tomatoes for Karl Rove
01:22 - 3 years ago
Discusses the Karl Rove statement “I don’t want my 17-year-old son to have to pick tomatoes or make beds in Las Vegas” and the response from some Democrats to the Bush amnesty for illegal aliens plan.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7886818289558727325#


66 posted on 04/03/2010 4:01:01 PM PDT by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
Well, he doesn’t believe in God so I know he’s not a christian conservative.

He's an Episcopalian.  He attends Church every week.  Attended Bible study meetings in the White House once a week in the Bush administration too.

67 posted on 04/03/2010 4:26:35 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Ked Tennedy would have been plowed... I mean, proud today..." - Senator Max Baucus (Drunk-MT))
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To: Jim 0216
However, the push Old Money and Big Business gives to Big Government would be stopped at the 10th Amendment of the Constitution.

But the 10th Amendment was rendered a dead letter, or very nearly (it's been on life support, and then only by the solicitude of e.g. the late CJ Wm. Rehnquist and AJ's Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia), by the outcome of the Civil War, in which the federal government conquered the States (including those that fought on the Union side).

State have continuously lost prestige and ability to resist unconsitutional impositions on them ever since; Clinton tried to dragoon them with his crime bill in 1994 but lost in the Supreme Court; but here is Obama, back at it, imposing unfunded mandates on the States. And George W. Bush's escutcheon on this account isn't completely clean, eiher, e.g. his No Child Left Behind Act. N/W/S his apologists' claim that he and Karl Rove were setting constitutional "backfires" to try to contain damage about to be done by the Democrats, nevertheless Bush's signature appears on the legislation, robbing the States of a federal champion they should have had.

68 posted on 04/03/2010 4:37:16 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

Its fairly well documented that W was no friend of the Constitution. In that sense he was no a friend of America. There are enough people around who don’t consider the Constitution dead letter - a whole bunch of states are getting ready to assert their constitutionally protected states rights. Maybe this is where the showdown is. Somewhere the line has to be drawn, or else the U.S. disappears into the sunset.


69 posted on 04/03/2010 5:44:20 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

What kind of conservative is he?
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He’s a pseudo conservative like Boy Bush.


70 posted on 04/03/2010 6:23:21 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Zakeet

What an UNSURPRISE.

I’ll stop there.

Wouldn’t want to be accused of trying to tarnish the halo of the anointed consultant.


71 posted on 04/03/2010 7:09:41 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: what's up

Yeah, I agree.... If DJ doesn’t beat him in the primary, and McCain wins re-election ( Oh the huge Manatee), maybe Sarah will be able to get a collar on his neck, and yank his chain often enought, that he’ll stay in line....LOLOLOLOL....Sometimes I think that Her campaigning for him may be the way she makes sure that collar goes on tightly....so he can’t do to her what he did to Bush.

(She won’t have to do that with JD)


72 posted on 04/03/2010 7:27:51 PM PDT by Forty-Niner ((.))
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To: Jim 0216

“Its fairly well documented that W was no friend of the Constitution.”

Other than the Dems consantly throwing mud at Bush, and screaming about lost rights because he treated Terrorists as they should be treated....could you give us some “well documented examples?”

My College Football coach never told me to let the opposing team control the ball as a good way of winning the game....


73 posted on 04/03/2010 7:41:26 PM PDT by Forty-Niner ((.))
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To: Zakeet
I don't have that short of a memory. Millions of us remember.

This KARL ROVE character was one of the PRIME MOVERS for not only not getting our Southern borders under control throughout much of the 2000s, but moving forward with this Comprehensive Immigration Amnesty Reform Bullshit (which Bush tried and got stopped twice on), or "regularization" teamed with the Democrats and sellout Republicans like Graham and McCain. Rove will NEVER be forgiven in my book, nor will be ever be considered a *Conservative* around OUR dinner table at our house.


74 posted on 04/04/2010 5:10:35 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (The FASCIST knows his window of opportunity is now only 7 months. Watch him like a hawk.)
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To: Forty-Niner
Bush was a mixed bag.

The liberals hated him. Score one for Bush.
Bush went after the Isalmoterroists with a vengeance and set them back on their heels. Never heard from them again on our soil after 911, 911 being attributable mostly to Clinton's showing in the 90's of the typical liberal double-minded weakness inviting attack. Score another for Bush.
He was consistently a moral force against abortion, embryo stem-cell research, and the like, and a Christian influence for good in his openly holding Jesus as Lord.
His judicial appointments were a bulwark against constant judicial activism.

So militarily, morally, spiritually, and judicially, he scored.

Where failed IMO and proved to be no friend of the Constitution was politically and economically. Unfortunately, in those areas he was his father’s son. You don’t need me to tell you about his historic growth in government spending and growth, creating things like no child left behind without any constitutional authority to do so. The Homeland Security Act ran roughshod over constitutional rights in the name of security. But as Judge Napolitano points out, that’s an agreement with the devil. If today you allow your constitutional rights to be stripped in the name of benevolence, you’re leaving the door open for a tyrant later (now?) to seal the deal. This criticism is coming from an independent conservative (myself and others like me). I couldn’t care less what the idiot liberals say. But Bush’s distain for the Constitution (he’s been quoted as saying essentially it’s a worthless piece of paper – and his actions backed that up) in his domestic policies and unconstitutional growth of government hurt our country.

75 posted on 04/04/2010 5:35:28 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Zakeet

Rove is a Republican party hack. Obviously they want big government as well. Why wouldn’t they, if it will give them more power? Power equals profit and profit is the point where the two big government parties meet at the top and shake hands.


76 posted on 04/04/2010 5:42:03 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: Forty-Niner
Correction...

The Homeland Security Act

The Patriot Act

77 posted on 04/04/2010 5:52:11 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Forty-Niner

Thank you, for being a voice of sanity in a swamp of rightwing nutters.


78 posted on 04/09/2010 3:13:09 PM PDT by Valin
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
What kind of conservative is he?

He's an executive branch conservative -- who want to preserve the prerogatives of the President. Same as Nixon or Cheney.

79 posted on 09/26/2010 2:01:13 PM PDT by x
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To: x

Most political operative have no core beliefs, they just play the role they believe will obtain maximum power, if it’s playing a conservative, fine, if it’s playing a liberal, fine.

Rove just chose to play the role of a Conservative, it could have easily gone the other way.


80 posted on 09/26/2010 2:04:49 PM PDT by dfwgator (Texas Rangers - AL West Champions)
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