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Victor Davis Hanson: Our American Catharsis - Will Obama-time be a transitory experience or an..?
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE ^ | April 9, 2010 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 04/10/2010 7:49:19 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: DustyMoment
My hope is that nobama will be a transitory experience similar to (in many ways) a bad case of diarrhea.
21 posted on 04/10/2010 8:43:47 AM PDT by hal ogen ($10 (I think) ajmo0unts through the internet from all over the world.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Will Obama-time be a transitory experience or an enduring tragedy?

It will with us long after 0bama is gone.

From an earlier thread on FR:

“The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to an electorate willing to have such a man for their president.

The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.

The republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.”

22 posted on 04/10/2010 8:54:25 AM PDT by cayuga (Caligula is in the White House. Where are the Praetorian Guard when you need them?)
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To: hal ogen
My hope is that nobama will be a transitory experience similar to (in many ways) a bad case of diarrhea.

Funny, nobama ran on "hope". He just didn't mention that it would be fading under his regime.

23 posted on 04/10/2010 9:01:32 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: DustyMoment
The problem we face this November is that there aren't enough replacements with strong conservative values to reverse the damage the Obot Party has done before the Obots can do more.

My concern also. At this point in time, it is a given that the Democrats will get creamed - and therein lies the problem. The RINOs will fingure they don't have to change, just ride in on the tide, and as you say, will not reverse the tide. The point to hammer home to the voters is that even the RINOs have to go, as many have been saying. We can't convert 'em, so dump 'em as well. IMO, the Tea Party groups are the main hope now.

24 posted on 04/10/2010 9:24:20 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: neverdem
Time will soon tell whether this strange American experience is transitory and so becomes a needed catharsis, or whether it will be institutionalized and thus result in an enduring tragedy...

Precisely,... or whether it will evolve into something much more bloody and horrible.

25 posted on 04/10/2010 10:04:25 AM PDT by Gritty (It's no longer a game. People will die because of actions taken by this country's leftists-JR Dunn)
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To: DustyMoment
The problem with the 'Pubbies is that they are too afraid of making the Dems mad at them. I don't get it. The Dems already hate them and treat them as America's "whipping boy", how much worse could it get if the Dems "get nad at them"?

I suspect that the problem is that most Republicans just want their piece of the action.
26 posted on 04/10/2010 11:00:04 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: neverdem

bump


27 posted on 04/10/2010 11:02:03 AM PDT by gibsosa
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To: neverdem

Best, most cogent article he’s ever written.


28 posted on 04/10/2010 11:23:06 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Voters who thought their ship came in with 0bama are on their own Titanic.)
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To: bassmaner

Ever since income tax + federal reserve...


29 posted on 04/10/2010 11:54:13 AM PDT by karnage (worn arguments and old attitudes)
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To: neverdem

VDH bump. He sure nails it here.


30 posted on 04/10/2010 12:03:27 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
The sooner we forget this turd the better.

This turd should just return to where turds come from.

31 posted on 04/10/2010 1:05:40 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: Gritty
Precisely,... or whether it will evolve into something much more bloody and horrible.

May I ever be so humble, I don't believe baloney.

32 posted on 04/10/2010 3:00:33 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: DesertRhino
I agree with you except I'd say the Leftest Revolution has been creeping through this republic for at least 77 years. Creeping doesn't even begin to describe whats happened since the election of FDR.

"roll back the creeping leftist revolution of the past 20 years"

33 posted on 04/11/2010 12:13:30 AM PDT by XHogPilot (A thief might rob you, but politicians can rob your family for countless generations.)
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To: RatRipper
I believe Bill Clinton has always been numbered with the hard Leftists. Just look at the same kooks that surrounded him who ended up with Zer0.

I think you're right. He was SDS back in the day, just as much as Hillary, and it's pretty obvious, given his appointments on entering office, that his "Blue Dog" imposture was just that. Bill Clinton was never a "Blue Dog" but a liar and a Trojan horse (in all sorts of ways). His indiscipline and bad moral habits proved to be our godsend and his limiting factor.

By the way, always remember that it was Tom Daschle, out of office, rejected by his South Dakota voters, who invented the Obama presidential campaign strategy. He even surfaced it in a PBS interview before the election -- talk about arrogance!

But Daschle always had the look of the ideological hardface, the Strelnikov wannabe who wanted to ride around in an armored train, standing whole villages against a wall for supporting the competition.

And the MSM, instead of profiling for us what these guys were and what we were getting, covered for them all and campaigned for them.

34 posted on 04/11/2010 1:32:04 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Gritty; neverdem
.....,... or whether it will evolve into something much more bloody and horrible.

Unfortunately, "bloody and horrible" is the percentage bet, based on human history. Wish it weren't so, but...... even my liberal friends are unbelievably stupid, purblind, wilfully blind, about this. They have no sense of history.

"Whom the gods would destroy ....."

35 posted on 04/11/2010 1:44:12 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Oatka
The RINOs will fingure they don't have to change, just ride in on the tide, and as you say, will not reverse the tide.

I fully agree, but the 'Pubbie Party has morphed into the RINO Party and provides no hope at all for conservatives. Since 2006 and 2008, they have done little to indicate that they have returned to their conservative principles or plan to remain rooted in the conservative principles.

I listen to these bozos on the radio all the time. They say the right things, but actions speak louder than words and the actions aren't there . . . Juan McVain, Lindsey Graham Cracker, Kay Bailey Hutchison, John Cornyn, etc., etc., etc. Pence and Boehner and Bachmann seem to be carrying the water for the other RINOS and I don't follow their records closely enough to really know if they are worth anyone squandering a vote on them. And then, there's Michael Steele. Dump his butt before things get any worse!!

36 posted on 04/11/2010 12:58:50 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: algernonpj
I suspect that the problem is that most Republicans just want their piece of the action.

I'm not following you. How does playing doormat to the Dems get them their "piece of the action"?

37 posted on 04/11/2010 1:00:20 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: algernonpj
I suspect that the problem is that most Republicans just want their piece of the action.

I'm not following you. How does playing doormat to the Dems get them their "piece of the action"?

38 posted on 04/11/2010 1:01:48 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: DustyMoment
I'm not following you. How does playing doormat to the Dems get them their "piece of the action"?

By not rocking the boat, by 'reaching across the aisle', by not doing anything substantive to stop their sidling to the left, the republicans get to share in the spoils-corruption / buy-offs (aka campaign contributions) / living the good life at the expense of American taxpayers.
39 posted on 04/12/2010 6:34:18 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: algernonpj

That doesn’t make sense. They are currently the target of conservatives’ enmity and disdain. Why on earth would they pursue such a self-defeating action??

I don’t deny that the GOP hasn’t lived “the good life at the expense of American taxpayers”, but it isn’t paying off for them in a good way.


40 posted on 04/13/2010 3:43:55 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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