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Army to court martial 'birther' officer
msnbc ^ | April 13, 2010 | Mark Murray

Posted on 04/13/2010 1:39:03 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

U.S. military officials tell NBC News that the U.S. Army will court martial a lieutenant colonel who refuses to deploy to Afghanistan because he considers orders from President Obama to be "illegal."

Army doctor Lt. Col. Terry Lakin believes Obama does not meet the constitutional requirements to be president and commander-in-chief

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: army; bhodod; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; courtmartial; eligibility; fraud; ineligible; lakin; military; naturalborncitizen; obama; terrylakin; usurper
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To: jamese777

Sure, as you say: “If anybody could.”


241 posted on 04/14/2010 9:48:11 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's modern patriots: all armed conservatives)
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To: verity

I’m not a JAG officer, I just posted the UCMJ. I believe
fellow freepers can read and understand plain English.


242 posted on 04/14/2010 9:50:24 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's modern patriots: all armed conservatives)
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To: All

Lunch breaks over, back on my head.
Work it out y’all!


243 posted on 04/14/2010 9:52:20 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's modern patriots: all armed conservatives)
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To: steve0
I think many in the RAT party would love to bring down obozo but they don't have the guts to do it, many would be murdered, family death threats and many would be exposed to corruption charges and possibly spend the rest of the lives in jail, only their own party can bring one of them down and even they would be in danger. If anything comes of obozo’s birth records they must make it look as if the the Right Wing Conspirators did it.
I've been saying all along nobody is paying any attention the HITLARY and her trips Russia, her deals with Russia are just like NO SO BRIGHT Albritht. The Clinton could have distroyed this country with all the technology that was given away, leaving us without a missile defense and making sure missiles and launchers were not together so their was no way of defending ourselves. Not the Clintons are doing it again, WHY? Just how much did Clinton promiss Russia for his release behind the Iron Curtain, has everyone forgotten about that. The TREADY DEAL IS TREASON.
Poland wanted a missile defense, Russia and obozo say NO, well now their President is DEAD and do you honestly believe Russia had nothing to do with it?
244 posted on 04/14/2010 9:52:35 AM PDT by rebapiper
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To: nolongerademocrat

the key to it all is what will be allowed in discovery


245 posted on 04/14/2010 9:55:34 AM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I have no clue about what his B/C says but the shouts are show us and then let us put this behind us, instead the far left and the white house would rather call names etc instead of dealing with the issue.

Having been in the military like so many conservatives unlike the loon left who hates them then there are many who still are asking the question.

just seems weird that a guy who got into power sealed those records right away.
My oldest asked me how bozo did at school and I could not give him a proper answer as bozo has sealed those records too.
Listening to him and seeing him then I have to think that he got mostly d’s and c’s and only got through and accepted through the racist non qualifying affirmative action


246 posted on 04/14/2010 9:56:05 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Sola Veritas

The NBC requirement of the COTUS is a FEDERAL not STATE issue. It requires a FEDERAL court to rule. Although, I will grant that a state ruling like this is not a good sign.
It shows how judiciary is leaning....at least in Indiana. What if a court in another state ruled differently? This is not beyond the realm of possibility. Anyway, it needs to be decided by the SCOTUS.


It is the electors from each state who actually vote for the president of the United States and the Indiana lawsuit challenged Obama’s eligibility to receive Indiana’s Electoral College votes because both his parents weren’t US citizens.

The U.S. Constitution’s remedy for stopping an ineligible candidate from assuming the presidency is by challenging the legitimacy of his electoral votes at the joint session of Congress that is held to count and certify the vote of the Electoral College. Objections had to be submitted in writing to Vice President Cheney (in his role as President of the Senate) by any one member of the House and any one Senator. However in January, 2009, no written objections were called for by Cheney nor were any received from any members of Congress.

The US Supreme Court has already rejected hearing any of seven different Obama eligibility lawsuits: Berg v Obama, Craig v US, Donofrio v Wells, Herbert v Obama, et. al., Lightfoot v Bowen, Schneller v Cortes, and Wrotnowski v Bysiewicz. There is no Obama eligibility lawsuit on the US Supreme Court docket for 2010.


247 posted on 04/14/2010 9:57:05 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: tumblindice

You did not post all the relevant parts. And there is ample proof that reading comprehension and being a ˜freeper’ are mutually exclusive.

I bet you recently stayed at a Holiday Inn Express. lol


248 posted on 04/14/2010 9:57:12 AM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: edge919

They can’t present a photocopy of the alleged COLB. It’s not self-authenticating unless they have the hard copy of the actual document. And good luck getting a sworn and notarized statement for Chiyome Fukino that matches anything she’s said to the public.


There is a difference between a photocopy and a computer generated Certificate of Live Birth accompanied by a sworn and notarized affidavit. Time will tell just what if anything is produced.


249 posted on 04/14/2010 9:59:24 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: steve0

“Obama is the biggest FRAUD of the 21st century!!’

Say it loud and often


250 posted on 04/14/2010 10:00:12 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: jamese777
There is a difference between a photocopy and a computer generated Certificate of Live Birth accompanied by a sworn and notarized affidavit.

An official computer-generated COLB doesn't have to be accompanied by a sworn and notarized statement. That's why the state seal and registrar's signature are put on them. Under Federal Rules of Evidence, such a document is self-authenticating. This doesn't mean it can't be challenged of course. I have doubts that Obama will let his alleged COLB anywhere near a real court of law. It won't pass the smell test.

251 posted on 04/14/2010 10:03:28 AM PDT by edge919
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To: El Gato

There is always a first time. This might be the time.


Yes indeed.


252 posted on 04/14/2010 10:03:33 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Then they will have to allow him to remain in jail rather than ask Obama to produce a $12 document.

I predict he will be forced to retire or something of that nature, to avoid this.


253 posted on 04/14/2010 10:06:37 AM PDT by cvq3842 (Freedom is worth fighting for.)
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To: verity
Bravo for you for not allowing reality to interfere with your opinion.

Would you care to weigh in on this issue or are you just a back bench bomb thrower? I realize Lt Col Lakin WILL be court martialed for not following his IMMEDIATE superiors orders. I still count him as a hero and if you have a problem with that I could care less.

254 posted on 04/14/2010 10:06:54 AM PDT by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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To: Pilsner
Birthers can never seem to grasp is that the United States Constitution gives Congress the final say in vetting the election, or appointment, of every constitutional officer. Congress decides (in the event of a dispute) who won elections to Congress

Well they did not do their job then. They did not check eligibility. And in fact nowhere in the law does or the Constitution does it say they are supposed to.

I've read the law, and of course the Constitution. Have you? The law deals with certifying the electoral vote count. It is not about vetting the president elect. It even prohibits not certifying the vote of any properly appointed elector from a state where only one set of returns is received.

255 posted on 04/14/2010 10:09:46 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: teletech
I have weighed in on this on the many other threads on the same subject.

In any case, I shall not revise my opinion.

256 posted on 04/14/2010 10:13:49 AM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: cvq3842

They will certainly try to force him to retire. This is a bold move by the LtC, so I doubt he’s subject to being “forced” to retire. That said, there is no way Obama will let this go to trial. Despite what some posters have said, defendants in a court marshall do have substantial rights including discovery when presenting their defense. Would discovery work here? Probably not - Obama would simply refuse to comply - but there is a chance. That’s a chance Obama can’t take.

One point I haven’t seen made: Does anyone think this LtC hasn’t thought this through? Sought consel before hand? Talked to other officers? Seriously?


257 posted on 04/14/2010 10:13:57 AM PDT by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Never mind the facts that Obama has yet to prove he has been born. I thought that part was pretty evident by just looking at him.

He could have been hatched on a distant planet or force-grown in a laboratory.

258 posted on 04/14/2010 10:14:21 AM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenerio at a time.)
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To: steve0
Never to late but the sooner the better. I keep saying I don't think we will last obozos four years. He and his thugs are pushing everything they can at us and so far nobody has been able to stop him.
If they bring down our stock pile of nukes and our missile defense we will not survive this time, Russia and China are using Iran for their dirty work, they want Iran fully armed and to wipe out Israel and we will not be able to help them, we will be lucky if we will be able to defend ourselves.
I know everyone lives in a dream world, JUST VOTE THEM OUT.
If that was they case many of them would not be in office to day. The election process is so corrupt and dangerous we can't get rid of the criminals in our government. Most of them are illegally holding unto thier seats.
I'm going to try and make it to the TEA PARTY thursday in Kingston,New York.
I CAN'T BEFLIEVE THEIR ARE PEOPLE IN NEW YORK THAT HAVE FOUND THIER BACK BONE, TWO TEA PARTIES IN NEW YORK ONE ALSO IN WHITE PLAINS. I ONLY HOPE SCHUMER,AL SHARPTON DON'T BRING OUT THE BIG GUNS AND START HARRASSING PEOPLE, OR BEATING PEOPLE UP. SHARPTON LIKES TO BEAT UP ON YOUNG GIRLS SO LOOK OUT FOR HIM. BLOOMBERG AND HIS PHONY CHURCH GOERS KEEP HIM OUT OF PRISON JUST SO HE CAN KEEP UP WITH THE VIOLENCE ON THE STREETS OF NEW YORK.

RICK LAZIO IS RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK HE NEEDS ALL THE HELP HE CAN GET, NEW YORKERS CANT SIT BACK AND ONCE AGAIN LET THE HIJACKERS,THE RAT PARTY, THE LIBERAL,SOCIALIST,COMMUNIST,PROGRESIVE LOW LIFE TAKE OVER NEW YORK. THE HOLLYWOOD WANT A BES NEED TO STAY HOME AND LET THE GOOD PEOPLE OF NEW YORK TAKE CONTROL OF THIS STATE.
IT'S TIME TO CLEAN UP NEW YORK GET THE DOMORATS OFF THE STREES OF NEW YORK AND OUT OF OUR HOMES AND POCKETS.

259 posted on 04/14/2010 10:17:44 AM PDT by rebapiper
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To: TheThinker
He could have been hatched on a distant planet or force-grown in a laboratory.

But one way or the other he was born, right?

260 posted on 04/14/2010 10:18:32 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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