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Army to court martial 'birther' officer
msnbc ^ | April 13, 2010 | Mark Murray

Posted on 04/13/2010 1:39:03 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

U.S. military officials tell NBC News that the U.S. Army will court martial a lieutenant colonel who refuses to deploy to Afghanistan because he considers orders from President Obama to be "illegal."

Army doctor Lt. Col. Terry Lakin believes Obama does not meet the constitutional requirements to be president and commander-in-chief

(Excerpt) Read more at firstread.msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: army; bhodod; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; courtmartial; eligibility; fraud; ineligible; lakin; military; naturalborncitizen; obama; terrylakin; usurper
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

let your fingers do the walking, it’s posted on several threads here at freepers


401 posted on 04/14/2010 3:52:03 PM PDT by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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To: RummyChick
The FBI has been destroying files for many years.

The Department of Forgetting: How an obscure FBI rule is ensuring the destruction of irreplaceable historical records.

402 posted on 04/14/2010 3:53:07 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: penelopesire; BP2; Fred Nerks; Red Steel; onyx; SE Mom; Bahbah; rodguy911; El Gato; hoosiermama

It’s hit Drudge ...!!

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Army Doc Who Questions Obama’s Citizenship Refuses to Go to Afghanistan...

Faces court-martial...

Video...

http://drudgereport.com/


403 posted on 04/14/2010 3:53:24 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

Good, on Drudge.
Thanks, STARWISE!


404 posted on 04/14/2010 3:54:51 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: jamese777
But if you absolutely MUST see the original, vault copy, long form, wouldn’t it be better to have it subpoenaed directly from the state rather than trusting a document released BY Obama?

Keyes lawyers applied for a subpoena and the corrupto-judges in CA denied it and the WA state case requested one back in 2008 well before the election. Where you been, obviously not living in this hell of a reality called usurperism like objective people are.

405 posted on 04/14/2010 3:59:22 PM PDT by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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To: STARWISE

I have not stopped praying for this courageous man..


406 posted on 04/14/2010 4:00:16 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: bushpilot1; BP2
"1) Ramsay was trying to get his opponent, Smith rejected as a Senator so that he could fill that position"

Ramsay had asked the House (of South Carolina) to declare the elected representative, William L. Smith, ineligible to serve, on the grounds that he had not been a citizen for seven years (i.e. length of "citizenship"). His argument against Smith had NOTHING to do with "Natural Born Citizen." Heck, NBC isn't a requirement for state rep, why would he argue that point? He didn't. His argument was all about the length of time Smith was a "citizen."

"2) Ramsay’s arguments were heard in Congress and overwhelmingly rejected?"

They found that Smith meet the residency requirement for being a "citizen."

None of that takes away from the fact that Ramsay defined what the founders knew constituted at "Natural Born Citizen." Born in country, to citizen parents (plural).

407 posted on 04/14/2010 4:03:17 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: STARWISE

And let us continue to keep it on the Radar scope.


408 posted on 04/14/2010 4:06:25 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: patlin
Keyes lawyers applied for a subpoena and the corrupto-judges in CA denied it

Ah, yes, the "corrupto judge" who was hailed as a brave Marine hero until he didn't rule the way you wanted.

409 posted on 04/14/2010 4:09:17 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Pilsner
Form a political party. Study up on ballot access laws, and select several states where it is relatively easy to get on the ballot to run for President. Then go out and do some work, circulating petitions and the like, and get the Birther candidate on the ballot. Then, assuming BO is the Democrat nominee, the Birther candidate will have standing, in those states, to sue to get BO off the ballot.

What would this third party canidate's particularized injury be by an ineligible cannidate's mere pressence on the ballot? Alan Keyes was on the ballot in many states, where he was beaten by Obama (and of course by McCain) but yet he can't seem to get "standing" in Court.

410 posted on 04/14/2010 4:09:22 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: bushpilot1; BP2

Correction. Ramsay had petitioned the U.S. House (not S. Carolina’s House) to address Smith meeting the 7 year citizenship or not.


411 posted on 04/14/2010 4:09:56 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Frank Marshall Davis had an FBI file of hundreds and hundreds of pages showing what????? Have you bothered to find out his associations????
http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/davis.FBI.File.pdf

Notice how the communists wanted to infiltrate the Democratic party?

And you think that Gramps was spared an extensive FBI file?

The little red church on the hill..just what was that????

however, it appears the index was destroyed..not necessarily the files.

I think the FBI didn’t stop investigating Davis until after Kennedy was killed. This would make it too soon to destroy files if they had to be kept for 25 years.


412 posted on 04/14/2010 4:12:11 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: rxsid; BP2

Thanks. Was the 1789 Dissertation based on this event?


413 posted on 04/14/2010 4:15:33 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1; BP2
"Thanks. Was the 1789 Dissertation based on this event?"

Yes. He wrote it to describe the various types of citizen.

David Ramsay (April 2, 1749 to May 8, 1815) was an American physician, patriot, and historian from South Carolina and a delegate from that state to the Continental Congress in 1782-1783 and 1785-1786. He was the Acting President of the United States in Congress Assembled. He was one of the American Revolution’s first major historians. A contemporary of Washington, Ramsay writes with the knowledge and insights one acquires only by being personally involved in the events of the Founding period. In 1785 he published History of the Revolution of South Carolina (two volumes), in 1789 History of the American Revolution (two volumes), in 1807 a Life of Washington, and in 1809 a History of South Carolina (two volumes). Ramsay “was a major intellectual figure in the early republic, known and respected in America and abroad for his medical and historical writings, especially for The History of the American Revolution (1789)…” Arthur H. Shaffer, Between Two Worlds: David Ramsay and the Politics of Slavery, J.S.Hist., Vol. L, No. 2 (May 1984). “During the progress of the Revolution, Doctor Ramsay collected materials for its history, and his great impartiality, his fine memory, and his acquaintance with many of the actors in the contest, eminently qualified him for the task….” http://www.famousamericans.net/davidramsay/. In 1965 Professor Page Smith of the University of California at Los Angeles published an extensive study of Ramsay's History of the American Revolution in which he stressed the advantage that Ramsay had because of being involved in the events of which he wrote and the wisdom he exercised in taking advantage of this opportunity. “The generosity of mind and spirit which marks his pages, his critical sense, his balanced judgment and compassion,'' Professor Smith concluded, “are gifts that were uniquely his own and that clearly entitle him to an honorable position in the front rank of American historians.”
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/04/founder-and-historian-david-ramsay.html
414 posted on 04/14/2010 4:21:54 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Financial aid to foreign students is almost non-existent.

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A former diplomatic security agent who was tasked with investigating Awlaki immediately after the Sept. 11 attacks told Fox News that the Yemeni-American national apparently lied on his visa application to attend Colorado State University, where he studied engineering.

Rather than tell U.S. immigration officials that he was born in Las Cruces, N.M., in 1971, Awlaki stated that the was foreign born, the security agent, Ray Fournier, said.

Awlaki received $20,000 in scholarship money from a U.S. government program for his schooling in Fort Collins, Colo. When asked if Awlaki was eligible, Fournier said, “No, he is absolutely forbidden to have it.” “That’s the taxpayers’ money,” Fournier added, saying Awlaki knew that lying about his birthplace would help him get the scholarship money.

http://rantburg.com/poparticle.php?D=2010-04-14&ID=294629


415 posted on 04/14/2010 4:22:31 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: kosciusko51
Perhaps this is the army's way of sweating Obama, since the panel may request said evidence from the resident-in-chief. So, does anyone know how do they choose the prosecuting atty and the court martial panel?

More to the point, can Obama be dragged into this while serving in office, according to the courts? Remember, it depends on what 'is' is...

416 posted on 04/14/2010 4:28:37 PM PDT by mrreaganaut (Coolidge for President!)
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To: RummyChick
Frank Marshall Davis had an FBI file of hundreds and hundreds of pages showing what????? Have you bothered to find out his associations????

He was a communist. He ran in communist circles. Not exactly news there.

And you think that Gramps was spared an extensive FBI file?

I don't know. I know that just talking to someone who was under FBI surveillance was enough to get an FBI file opened on you. What was in Dunhams neither I nor you know.

The little red church on the hill..just what was that????

It was the East Shore Unitarian Church in Belleville, WA.

however, it appears the index was destroyed..not necessarily the files.

The other way to read it is that we can't even confirm that there ever was a file.

I think the FBI didn’t stop investigating Davis until after Kennedy was killed. This would make it too soon to destroy files if they had to be kept for 25 years.

Uh, Kennedy was killed 45 years ago.

417 posted on 04/14/2010 4:29:20 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

UHHHH.....todays date is not relevant...it’s the date that record was destroyed..UNDER CLINTON.


418 posted on 04/14/2010 4:30:36 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Umm, wrong court bubba. Maybe you had better go back and read the ENTIRE history, then you can respond with some intelligence.


419 posted on 04/14/2010 4:33:02 PM PDT by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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To: STARWISE

Multiple alternative sources say that it was a Yemeni government-funded scholarship. But if you can show a program to fund foreign students studying the US in 1979, or even this alleged US program that Awlaki used, I’d be interested to see it.


420 posted on 04/14/2010 4:38:39 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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