Posted on 04/13/2010 1:39:03 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
U.S. military officials tell NBC News that the U.S. Army will court martial a lieutenant colonel who refuses to deploy to Afghanistan because he considers orders from President Obama to be "illegal."
Army doctor Lt. Col. Terry Lakin believes Obama does not meet the constitutional requirements to be president and commander-in-chief
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Texas law, and most, if not all state law, takes a very dim view of both ballot access litigation, and election contests. They are very hard to win, and very easy to lose on trivial technical issues. And the window to file one, and to get it heard, is short -- usually a matter of days. If you don't file, and win, in the the time it usually takes to just get service of citation in a civil suit, you lose. If you come whining into court after the fact, like Keyes, you lose.
That is why I said do research. See where you can get on the ballot. See where you have the best shot of a trial. Have your lawyers lined up, and have the lawsuit fully drafted, ahead of time.
Again, I think you would lose. But you would have a chance to lose on the merits, not the fact that no court in the nation can over rule the call Congress made that BO was the President elect.
Are you a commie sympathizer?
Yeah, 1997. Maybe in BirtherWorld 33 is less than 25.
The debate in the house over Smith’s eligibility is found in the Annals of Congress, Gales and Seaton’s History, First Congress, First Session, May 22, 1789. starting on page 412 and continuing through page 425. Here is a text version.
Doctor Ramsay in his petition to Congress argued that Smith could not have been a citizen 7 years because he had not been present the United States for 7 years since the United States existed (having been abroad for education during the Revolution).
Ramsay asserted that one becomes a citizen by “birth or inheritance” and that Smith was denied both, having been born in Carolina when it was a British colony, and because his father died a British subject before the Revolution.
Smith countered with compelling evidence that upon his return to South Carolina, he was immediately considered a citizen without taking any oath of loyalty, and his previous residence as a minor in the Colony of Carolina counted towards the qualifications to vote and serve on the South Carolina privy council.
James Madison opened the debate observing that South Carolina law was not specific on the question of citizenship (and that if it were, there would be nothing to debate).
Madison argued that the question should be decided based on South Carolina law to the extent it could be used and then upon general principles. One of these principles was: “It is an established maxim that birth is a criterion of allegiance.
Birth, however, derives its force sometimes from place, and sometimes from parentage; but in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States; it will, therefore, be unnecessary to examine any other.”
Madison then said: “I conceive that every person who owed this primary allegiance to the particular community in which he was born, retained his right of birth, as a member of a new community; that he was absolved from a secondary allegiance that he had owed to a British sovereign.”
Smith was affirmed by a vote of 36-1. [Note: there were two congressmen named William Smith at the time, one from South Carolina and one from Maryland.
It was argued by Madison that US Citizenship was based on Jus Soli.
So you're not talking about Keyes v. Obama? Which case, then? There have been so many.
Oh yeah, I am so blinded by your Commie posts that I didn’t add right.
So why do you not have a problem with Obama’s mentor being a pervert and a Commie and a pedophile?
Hardly. At the same time, though, I'm not afraid that they're hiding under my bed plotting to pollute my precious bodily fluids with flouridated water.
But it is okay for Obama to see Frank Marshall Davis as his mentor - a Commie and Pedophile.
Because I didn't vote for Obama, and I've got bigger issues with him than who his grandfather drank with.
Awlaki lied and said he was born in Yemen. Does
that give you a clue ?
“Awlaki received $20,000 in scholarship money from a U.S. government program for his schooling in Fort Collins, Colo. When asked if Awlaki was eligible, Fournier said, “No, he is absolutely forbidden to have it.”
And what's the evidence that Obama sees Davis as his mentor?
We are next to consider the rights and duties of citizens in their domestic relations, as distinguished from the absolute rights of individuals, of which we have already treated. Most of these relations are derived from the law of nature, and they are familiar to the institutions of every country, and consist of husband and wife, parent and child, guardian and ward, and master and servant. To these may be added, an examination of certain artificial persons created by law, under the well known name of corporations. There is a still more general division of the inhabitants of every country, under the comprehensive title of aliens and natives, and to the consideration of them our attention will be directed in the present lecture.
(1.) Natives are all persons born within the jurisdiction of the United States. If they were resident citizens at the time of the declaration of independence, though born elsewhere, and deliberately yielded to it an express or implied sanction, they became parties to it, and are to be considered as natives; their social tie being coeval with the existence of the nation.
It's not even true then.
I am a US Citizen. I live and have always lived in the United States. My wife is Canadian. She is still residing in Canada and I visit across the border spending nearly half my time there until we can get custody issues with her daughter from a previous marriage resolved.
Our son was born in Canada. He is still a natural US citizen at birth, because I am a US citizen, and have lived as an adult in the US for far more than the required number of years. We do have to jump through some hoops to claim that Citizenship and pay a sizable fee for the paperwork, but he isn't granted citizenship by that process. He is already a US citizen, the government just hasn't properly recorded that fact yet.
A Naturalized Citizen is someone who was not born a US Citizen, but becomes one at a later date.
Yep...there are several angles to take on this usurper Prez. I’d like to see all options on the table and people pursuing all at the same time. His college records also need to be seen. There is some questions as to whether he went to school as a ‘foreign exchange’ student. One thing is without question....the man is hiding something and it must be pretty big or else he would just release all of his records.
Awlaki lied in ***1971***
and said he was born in Yemen and got it.
Does that give you a clue ?
“A former diplomatic security agent who was tasked with investigating Awlaki immediately after the Sept. 11 attacks told Fox News that the Yemeni-American national apparently lied on his visa application to attend Colorado State University, where he studied engineering.
Rather than tell U.S. immigration officials that he was born in Las Cruces, N.M.,
in 1971, Awlaki stated that the was foreign born, the security agent, Ray Fournier, said.
Awlaki received $20,000 in scholarship money from a U.S. government program for his schooling in Fort Collins, Colo. When asked if Awlaki was eligible, Fournier said, “No, he is absolutely forbidden to have it.”
http://libertarianrepublican.blogspot.com/2010/04/another-muslim-man-in-us-caught-lying.html
Sorry to burst your bubble, but natural born citizens don’t have to jump through hoops or fill out ANY paperwork to prove their citizenship.
Just who was the poet Frank is Obama’s book?
Oh sure, let’s hear your issues with Obama.
Keyes v Obama, but well before if reached Federal Court. It was in the lower courts in CA.
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