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GUNSHOTS ON THE POLISH PRESIDENT'S PLANE CRASHSITE (VIDEO!)
YouTube ^ | April 12, 2010

Posted on 04/13/2010 1:54:16 PM PDT by lizol

An amateur video - looks like the author appeared at the crash site before the rescuers and security service.

Take a look especially at 57 sec., and later. I can hear several gunhots, pretty clearly.



WTF?????!!!!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkEmHSIVDwE&feature=player_embedded


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: conspiracytheory; kaczynski; poland
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To: littleharbour
I wonder if there was any truth to the report that none of the cell phones were working.

I mean even after the twin towers fell, cell phones could be heard, as were the firefighers alarm buzzers they wear during calls.

61 posted on 04/13/2010 2:42:57 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Temujinshordes
Cartridge actuated devices (CADS), hot gas generators, pressure bottles, etc, all are going to blow in a fire.

Yes, but each thing has a distinctive sound.

This sounds like gunfire.

62 posted on 04/13/2010 2:43:26 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: lizol

How peculiar. Do people in Poland think it’s strange there are still six missing?


63 posted on 04/13/2010 2:44:40 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: mware

Imagine how Puty Put would have handled that?


64 posted on 04/13/2010 2:44:45 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: tiredoflaundry
it didn’t look that foggy where the crash site is. Hmm

Are you kidding? Forget the ground level where the camera is focused on, look in the background at the tops of the trees in the distance......

This was major pilot error and anyone who thinks differently must be related to Michael Rivero, if not in fact him.

65 posted on 04/13/2010 2:47:03 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: lizol
The sound of a cartridge exploding from a fire is different than the sound of a bullet fired from a handgun. Throw some cartridges into a bonfire; no sonic crack, just a “poof”. Fire a handgun and there is a sonic crack, unless it is at true point blank range so the bullet does not travel through much space. Three of the four shots on this youtube have a sonic crack so they had to be from bullets exiting a barrel at a speed greater than the speed of sound. The forth shot, IMO, was fired at very close range, probably downward, as there is no sonic crack. Just my two cents.
66 posted on 04/13/2010 2:50:15 PM PDT by Oorang (Tyranny thrives where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: Hot Tabasco

ok, chill


67 posted on 04/13/2010 2:50:20 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (I will not be silenced. I WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER)
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To: SE Mom
No. Not yet.

I must tell you - that I'm sitting by the computer, writing this, and at the same moment, I have my TV on, with 24 news, channel.
And they're discussing this video - but only the debris, fire, etc.
No one notices the gun shots.

Discussions regarding this issue are in the Internet.

68 posted on 04/13/2010 2:50:50 PM PDT by lizol
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To: alecqss

It seemed the train whistle startled him significantly. What’s up with the train? Do trains come in for landings at Smolensk?


69 posted on 04/13/2010 2:51:33 PM PDT by raygun
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To: Oorang

****.


70 posted on 04/13/2010 2:54:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: mware

If this were truly some sort of cover-up, why wasn’t the guy taking this video taken out as well? His video has documented ‘gun shots’ if we’re to believe it, and yet he is allowed to keep the video and leave.

That would seem counter to the overall plan, if subterfuge were at work here.


71 posted on 04/13/2010 2:55:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Be still & kneel before the know-nothing Omnipotent One, Il Douche' Jr., may fleas be upon him.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; giotto
“This person is moving?” per google tranlation. Are you serious or is it a sarcasm?

The latter.

72 posted on 04/13/2010 2:55:01 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch

Sometimes I have to ask...glad I did
:-)


73 posted on 04/13/2010 2:55:45 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: lizol

That’s fascinating. I wonder if that happened here how we would react- in the press and the internet.

Is there a lot of speculation online about this?

Thanks for all the threads you’ve posted here about this tragedy.


74 posted on 04/13/2010 2:56:00 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Plutarch

I don’t know what the intent of the original poster was, but that was the literal translation, per Google.


75 posted on 04/13/2010 2:57:31 PM PDT by giotto
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To: lizol

for reference


76 posted on 04/13/2010 2:58:41 PM PDT by EverOnward
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77 posted on 04/13/2010 2:59:03 PM PDT by loungitude ( The truth hurts.)
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To: SE Mom

OK - an update - only one’s missing. They’ve found 5 bodies under the wreckage.


78 posted on 04/13/2010 2:59:58 PM PDT by lizol
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To: knarf

People over there would laugh at a woman having a spontaneous abortion in the street.


79 posted on 04/13/2010 3:00:10 PM PDT by HD1200
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
“Russian gunshots sound different that Polish gunshots?”

They have a slightly Eastern Accent while the Polish have more guttural German accent. It is hard to distinguish until a round from each has been fired at you. Then the difference is unmistakable.

80 posted on 04/13/2010 3:08:38 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Calling all Son's of Liberty)
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