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Rep. King: ‘I’m For Abolishing the IRS and the Federal Income Tax Code’(Video)
CNSNews.com ^ | April 15, 2010 | Nicholas Ballasy

Posted on 04/16/2010 3:56:24 AM PDT by Man50D

Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) said he supports “abolishing” the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) and the federal income tax code. He made his remarks at a pre-tax-day event on Capitol Hill with other Republicans and several conservative activists.

“I’m for real tax reform and -- you all know this and I’m not here to necessarily drive this message -- I’m for abolishing the IRS and the federal income tax code and replacing it, and you know how and what with,” said King, a member of the House Small Business Committee.

Rep. King told CNSNews.com after the event, sponsored by the Americans for Tax Reform, that abolishing the IRS makes “perfect sense.”

“Well, I’ve been on this plan for 30 years,” King told CNSNews.com. “It makes perfect sense. Not just to me but to anybody that will debate this issue and that is, the IRS is, they sap the vitality of American business.”

“When you go look at a major corporation, and they will have multiple tax lawyers hired – sometimes whole floors or whole buildings committed to, not tax avoidance but tax delay -- how do they maximize the capital they have in order to grow wealth and create jobs?” said King.

“This tax on productivity in America has got to go,” he said. “I want to change the entire tax structure in America, take the penalty off of production and out it over on the side of consumption. The more we produce, the more wealth we have. The president has got it wrong. This economy isn’t built upon who can spend the most money – it’s not a giant chain-letter with no substance underneath it. What’s tied underneath it is the new wealth that is either mined out of the earth or that comes out of the land and we value-add to that multiple times. That’s all productivity. Then we market our productivity and that’s where our nation has wealth.”

“We’ve chased our manufacturing overseas,” said King. “If we just simply go to a fair tax, a national sales tax, abolish the IRS and the Internal Revenue Code, it will give us a 28 percent marketing advantage over products that are made overseas.”

Rep. King also addressed the critics of his idea.

“The people are the other side of this argument will argue that there’s something about -- they would claim that there are tax increases to consumers,” he said. “There are not. The consumer, the worker will get 56 percent more in their pay check. The prices of the goods go down an average of 22 percent. It’s goods and services.”

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.), the ranking member of the House Budget Committee, also spoke at the event along with Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-Minn.), Rep. Mike Pence (Ind.) and others.

He said that President Obama and the Democratic-controlled Congress have enacted $670 billion in tax increases into law.

“Fourteen of these new taxes hit people making less than $250,000,” said Ryan, a member of the House Ways and Means Committee. “Over $300 billion of those tax increases affect and hit those people making less than $250,000.”

“A promise was made, a promise was broken,” said Ryan, in reference to President Barack Obama’s oft-repeated pledge not to raise taxes of any kind on Americans making less than $250,000 a year.

The House Ways and Means Committee Republican Web site recently released a list of “tax increases totaling $670.341 billion that have been enacted into law under President Obama,” said Ryan, who also urged people to visit the site and read about the taxes that are now in the law.


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Right on the Money Mr. King! It's time the federal income tax code and replace with a consumption, non VAT style tax!
1 posted on 04/16/2010 3:56:24 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D; Taxman; Principled; EternalVigilance; phil_will1; kevkrom; Bigun; PeteB570; FBD; ...
Fair Tax ping!


2 posted on 04/16/2010 3:57:13 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Man50D

King for President!! He is talking language I can understand instead of RINOBABBLE.


3 posted on 04/16/2010 3:57:37 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (i)
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To: Man50D

Awesome! Then institute your National Sales Tax!

No Way for Congress to hide their spending then! When people see how much money they have to spend every single day so that Congress can buy votes you will see REAL CHANGE IN WASHINGTON!


4 posted on 04/16/2010 4:01:27 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: Man50D

Ah, but is the IRS “too big to fail”?

The mere existence of the IRS is a full-employment program for its own employees, tax lawyers, and accountants.


5 posted on 04/16/2010 4:02:24 AM PDT by cookiedough
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To: Man50D

Steve King is a great man, but needs to forget the “national sales tax” nonsense. The Dems will be happy to pass that and blame you for it.


6 posted on 04/16/2010 4:05:41 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: Man50D

No mention of repealing the 16th amendment. Dangerous omission.


7 posted on 04/16/2010 4:12:32 AM PDT by Wolfie
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Steve King is a great man, but needs to forget the “national sales tax” nonsense. The Dems will be happy to pass that and blame you for it.

King along with 65 other members of Congress cosponsor The Fair Tax because the growing grassroots movement have told them to do so or risk losing their jobs when they are up for re-election. The Fair Tax isn't going away. It's gaining momentum.
8 posted on 04/16/2010 4:15:47 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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No mention of repealing the 16th amendment. Dangerous omission.

There is concurrent legislation before Congress to repeal the 16th Amendment (House Joint Resolution 16). Moreover the Fair Tax will defund the IRS. The IRS can't function without money and the 16th Amendment can't function without the IRS.
9 posted on 04/16/2010 4:18:21 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Man50D

Yes!!!

Getting rid of the IRS would cause a surge in productivity and ultimately, wealth, in this country, not only because of the actual effect of restructuring Federal taxes, but because of the psychological boost. Right now in most people’s minds, it is like a giant vulture hovering over them, casting its shadow on everything as it waits to feed.


11 posted on 04/16/2010 4:22:03 AM PDT by livius
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To: arbooz

Wanna see how “Kinder and Gentler” works

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2488403/posts


12 posted on 04/16/2010 4:26:38 AM PDT by Gordon Pym
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To: Man50D
No mention of repealing the 16th amendment. Dangerous omission.

There is concurrent legislation before Congress to repeal the 16th Amendment (House Joint Resolution 16). Moreover the Fair Tax will defund the IRS. The IRS can't function without money and the 16th Amendment can't function without the IRS.

In addition to repealing the 16th there needs to be an irrevocable rate cap and an absolute ban on congressional "tinkering" with the code.

The income tax was a flat 1.5% on roughly 1% of the population when it started -- Then Congress started "tinkering"

Actually I would be in favor of a clause that would reduce congressional pay every time they vote to spend on something. With the way they operate up there they'd be owing money by the time they adjourn on the first day.

13 posted on 04/16/2010 4:35:39 AM PDT by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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In addition to repealing the 16th there needs to be an irrevocable rate cap and an absolute ban on congressional "tinkering" with the code.

People would know immediately if Congress tinkered with the rate for The Fair Tax since the rate will be transparent since it will be itemized on the receipt.

More importantly is the point founding father and first Secretary of The Treasury Alexander Hamilton made about a consumption tax in his Federalist Paper #21. To quote:

It is a signal advantage of taxes on articles of consumption, that they contain in their own nature a security against excess. They prescribe their own limit; which cannot be exceeded without defeating the end proposed, that is, an extension of the revenue. When applied to this object, the saying is as just as it is witty, that, "in political arithmetic, two and two do not always make four." If duties are too high, they lessen the consumption; the collection is eluded; and the product to the treasury is not so great as when they are confined within proper and moderate bounds. This forms a complete barrier against any material oppression of the citizens by taxes of this class, and is itself a natural limitation of the power of imposing them.

Hamilton understood raising the rate too high will result in a decrease in purchases consequently reducing the amount of tax collected. Congress will then be forced to either lower the rate to once again maximize the amount of tax collected or reduce spending. Choosing the latter will focus attention on reducing the rate. A consumption tax shifts the power away from the government and back to the people. This concept dovetails with the limited government principles our founding fathers instilled in the Constitution.
14 posted on 04/16/2010 4:53:08 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Man50D

Tie the Fair Tax to ratification by the States of the new amendment that repeals the 16th (Fair Tax is law AFTER ratification), and I’m all for it.


15 posted on 04/16/2010 4:57:22 AM PDT by Wolfie
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Tie the Fair Tax to ratification by the States of the new amendment that repeals the 16th (Fair Tax is law AFTER ratification), and I’m all for it.

If by "tie" you mean group into one piece of legislation, then it can't be done. Repealing an amendment requires a different process than passing a bill. The former has to be approved by 3/4 of the state legislatures and 2/3 of the House and Senate. The latter requires only a majority.

There is a sunset provision that will eliminate The Fair Tax if the 16th Amendment is not repealed within seven years from the time The Fair Tax is enacted.
16 posted on 04/16/2010 5:07:35 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Man50D

One thing is certain ........... the system in place now doesn’t work.


17 posted on 04/16/2010 5:12:10 AM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: Wolfie

“Tie the Fair Tax to ratification by the States of the new amendment that repeals the 16th (Fair Tax is law AFTER ratification), and I’m all for it.”

I second this statement!


19 posted on 04/16/2010 6:33:11 AM PDT by southernsunshine
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To: Man50D

bump


20 posted on 04/16/2010 7:09:52 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (There is no such thing as a conservative democrat - Rinse - Repeat)
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