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Up to 75% of British births to be outside marriage (The end of Britain: It has come to this)
The Times Online ^ | 04/18/2010 | Jamie McGinnes and Cara Waters

Posted on 04/18/2010 11:38:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

THREE-QUARTERS of children in some parts of Britain will be born to unmarried mothers within the next parliament, official figures indicate.

The number of births to single mothers and unmarried cohabiting couples is set to exceed 50% across the country in the next five years.

However, data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) suggest that births outside of wedlock in some areas are already the norm and continue to rise.

Knowsley, Merseyside, one of Britain’s most deprived areas, has the highest proportion of children born to unmarried mothers, with the figure on course to hit 75% by 2014.

Critics believe the trend is further evidence of a deterioration in family values under Labour. It will present David Cameron with a pressing social problem if the Tories — who have pledged tax breaks to less well-off married couples — win power at the general election.

“It’s tremendously worrying,” said Ann Widdecombe, a former Home Office minister. “I think marriage has become devalued, as people don’t respect their wedding vows and therefore others don’t see the point of it.

“Children do much better at growing up against the background of two parents who are married and stably so.”

When new Labour came to power in 1997 the proportion of births outside wedlock was 36.7%. That had risen sharply to 45% by 2008, the latest year for which data are available — an annual rise of almost one point.

Some 30% of children were born to unmarried cohabiting couples, while up to 15% were born to single mothers.

The region with the highest proportion of births outside of marriage is the northeast (57%), closely followed by Wales (56%) and the northwest (52%).

By contrast, London has the lowest proportion of children born to unmarried mothers — 36% in 2008.

(Excerpt) Read more at women.timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bastardboom; britain; illegitimacy; wedlock

1 posted on 04/18/2010 11:38:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Britain is unravelling at an exponential pace.


2 posted on 04/18/2010 11:41:15 AM PDT by riri
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To: SeekAndFind

It is quickening. It is feeding on itself. Cultural rot is feeding off cultural rot.


3 posted on 04/18/2010 11:41:54 AM PDT by GeronL (Entitlement Zombies will become real zombies when the money runs out)
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To: SeekAndFind

So had the U.K. (a most of the several states here in the U.S. have) undone the wisdom shown in common law of regarding long enough cohabitations as legally equivalent to marriage?

As Christians we ought well object on spiritual grounds to failing to solemnize marriages before God, but if the law stablizes cohabitations by treating them as marriages, much of the social harm is undone.


4 posted on 04/18/2010 11:46:50 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: SeekAndFind

Chavs in charge.


5 posted on 04/18/2010 11:47:26 AM PDT by dr_who
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To: SeekAndFind

Marriage is detrimental to qualifying for welfare. Welfare is the single biggest reason, followed by low morals, no values and no ethic for work.


6 posted on 04/18/2010 11:49:01 AM PDT by Gaffer ("Profling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: GeronL

The extent of the nihilistic rot will make the U.K. (and Europe in general) easy pickings for the jihadis.


7 posted on 04/18/2010 11:50:14 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: SeekAndFind

Another case of life imitating art.


8 posted on 04/18/2010 11:50:37 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Mr. Mojo

Because sooner or later they will notice the vacuum and Islam will be there.


9 posted on 04/18/2010 11:53:01 AM PDT by GeronL (Entitlement Zombies will become real zombies when the money runs out)
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To: SeekAndFind

Does make you wonder though if the birth rate among first, second, and Nth gen muzzies is so high, then how can 75% of British births be outside of marriage? What does Islam say about single moms and sex outside of marriage, or does it matter?


10 posted on 04/18/2010 11:54:04 AM PDT by dr_who
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To: SeekAndFind
Its a natal emergence.

I read that the only maternity hospital available under the British healthcare system is situated alittle east of the town of Marrriage in South Wales.

11 posted on 04/18/2010 11:56:53 AM PDT by Young Werther ("Quae cum ita sunt" Since these things are so!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Critics believe the trend is further evidence of a deterioration in family values under Labour. It will present David Cameron with a pressing social problem if the Tories — who have pledged tax breaks to less well-off married couples — win power at the general election.

And after Labour completely, totally, and unquestionably fails, there's the Liberals,the Greens, and even wackier left-wing groups waiting in the wings to lead the country towards that brighter utopia.
12 posted on 04/18/2010 11:57:22 AM PDT by dr_who
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To: riri
Who needs a husband when the State provides? Who needs a wife when there are plenty of promiscuous women?

But who needs a set of parents? -- the children.

13 posted on 04/18/2010 11:57:45 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: dr_who
What does Islam say about single moms and sex outside of marriage, or does it matter?

Islam is very strict regarding sex outside marriage (AKA fornication or adultery ). But I hasten to add that Muslims today comprise less than 3% of Britain's population ( about 1.6 Million out of 60 Million based on the the most recent census ).

This is Not enough to make a dent on the widespread native Anglo-Saxon out of wedlock birth. At least not yet.
14 posted on 04/18/2010 11:58:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
THREE-QUARTERS of children in some parts of Britain will be born to unmarried mothers within the next parliament, official figures indicate.

That is a heck of a lot of birthing going on in a innadequately sized building! Must be a fairly nasty place!

15 posted on 04/18/2010 11:58:59 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: SeekAndFind

“Critics believe the trend is further evidence of a deterioration in family values”

*****

Ya think?


16 posted on 04/18/2010 11:59:10 AM PDT by Canedawg (I'm not digging this tyranny thing.)
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To: expatpat

It’s beginning to sound like places like the UK are increasingly being populated by adult children.


17 posted on 04/18/2010 12:00:31 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: dr_who

It’s 75% in some parts. Those parts would be where there are native Britons. Where there are more Muslims, the out of wedlock birthrate is lower.


18 posted on 04/18/2010 12:02:50 PM PDT by Varda
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To: SeekAndFind

words of state


19 posted on 04/18/2010 12:03:07 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: SeekAndFind

Ya, Britain is pretty much finished.

It is even worse when you consider how bad things are, and then consider that 2/3rds of the country still support center left or far left political party’s. I believe the conservatives currently only have the support of about 33% of the voters, with labor and the liberal democrats mostly getting the other 66%. I’d guess by election day the Tories and right of center party’s get maybe 45% of the vote, but that is still not even a majority.

It really is pathetic how far the Brits have sunk, yet they seem disinterested in really doing anything much about it. I do wish the useful, productive Europeans would just abandon Europe and come to America. We really need to get all the conservative, traditionally minded people in one place and make sure socialism can’t take root in it.


20 posted on 04/18/2010 12:04:57 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: SeekAndFind

Does make you wonder if there’s ever a cultural awakening that reacts to all this decay, will it come from traditional institutions like the Tories and the CoE ...or will it come from muslim groups and different varieties of fascists?


21 posted on 04/18/2010 12:05:09 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: SeekAndFind

When you subsidize something, you get more of it. When you tax something, you get less of it. The welfare state, both here and in the U.K., relentlessly taxes “the rich,” who are mostly two income married couples, to subsidize “the poor,” who are mostly unemployed single moms.


22 posted on 04/18/2010 12:05:46 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: dr_who

It’s not just the UK. We have large swaths of the US where the inmates are running the asylums.


23 posted on 04/18/2010 12:05:54 PM PDT by Malacoda (CO(NH2)2 on OBAMA.)
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To: Longbow1969
It really is pathetic how far the Brits have sunk, yet they seem disinterested in really doing anything much about it.

November 2010 and November 2012 will allow us to see the future of the USA. If the Dems still control congress after 2010 and Obama gets re-elected in 2012, we will begin to know into what depths this nation has sunk to as well.

This will be even more so if the under 30 crowd continue to vote for Democrats and Obama. They are the future of this country.
24 posted on 04/18/2010 12:08:28 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Talk about a misleading headline. The Times USED to have standards.


25 posted on 04/18/2010 12:17:00 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: SeekAndFind

Another success story for the left.


26 posted on 04/18/2010 12:25:19 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s a lot of British bastards.


27 posted on 04/18/2010 12:25:24 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: SeekAndFind

When my wife and I got engaged there were at least two pages with pictures of the ladies betrothed.

Ditto marriage pictures.

In today’s paper there were two husband and wife pictures.

The others apparently have decided to shack up with their “fiances/fiancees!”

Some of these “engagements” have gone on longer than Dick Tracy and Tess Trueheart who finally got married after 17 years....with no kids in between!


28 posted on 04/18/2010 12:27:31 PM PDT by JimVT (Oh, the days of the Kerry dancing, Oh, the ring of the piper's tune)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Brits are following the lead of the American African community


29 posted on 04/18/2010 12:27:36 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Britain is spiritually dead. Once the spirit dies, everything begins to implode, including the family. Britain is a dead man walking.
30 posted on 04/18/2010 12:35:07 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: SeekAndFind

Looks like those areas have little in the way of employment, with twice the clain of Physical Incapacity than the national average. Nothing to do but make babies, so they aren’t all that incapacitated.


31 posted on 04/18/2010 12:50:54 PM PDT by muleskinner ("You know the Germans always make good stuff')
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To: Mr. Mojo
The extent of the nihilistic rot will make the U.K. (and Europe in general) easy pickings for the jihadis.

I said last week, on LP, that I almost, almost felt in some respects Islam would be an improvement over what I am seeing come out of the UK today. I was half joking. The more I see, the more I think I might have been on to something.

Every week, I read 3 or 4 articles that just blow away the previous weeks 3 or 4 articles in terms of depravity.

32 posted on 04/18/2010 12:51:57 PM PDT by riri
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To: SeekAndFind
You can bet your last dollar the usual suspects are cheering this on as a great achievement. Who are the usual suspects? Let me suggest:

1. BBC
2. British Intelligentsia
3. Labour Party
4. Oxford and Cambridge Universities (similar to #2 above)
5. Environmentalists
6. British Environmental Movement
7. British Entertainment Crowd
8. British Tabloid Press (Obsessed with sex and scandals)


Feel free to add others if you are familiar with what's going on in the UK.
33 posted on 04/18/2010 12:53:17 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: SeekAndFind
When new Labour came to power in 1997 the proportion of births outside wedlock was 36.7%. That had risen sharply to 45% by 2008, the latest year for which data are available — an annual rise of almost one point.

Some 30% of children were born to unmarried cohabiting couples, while up to 15% were born to single mothers.

This might not be quite as disastrous as in the US. It seems 2/3 of the British kids born out of wedlock are born to cohabiting, unmarried parents. In the US I know the stats would be at least reversed since our welfare and child support system rewards unwed mothers with no father involved in supporting the children. Mostly single mothers in the US, not cohabiting parents.

34 posted on 04/18/2010 1:04:47 PM PDT by Will88
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To: SeekAndFind
By contrast, London Londonistan has the lowest proportion of children born to unmarried mothers — 36% in 2008.

There, I fixed it.

35 posted on 04/18/2010 1:45:26 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: SeekAndFind
In my opinion one of the major contributing factors to the decrease in marriage rates is the fact the the wife gets half, the house, and the children 90% of the time.

Not exactly a great way to promote marriage, especially when you are already getting the milk for free.

36 posted on 04/18/2010 1:45:33 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Longbow1969

Detroit ranks No.1 in unmarried births among the nation’s 50 largest cities. Of the 16,729 babies born in Detroit in 1997, 13,574 were black, 1,679 were white and 817 were Hispanic. Seventy-one percent were born to unmarried mothers.

Ya, USA is pretty much finished as well then.


37 posted on 04/19/2010 3:02:38 AM PDT by MadMitch
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To: Longbow1969

The number of babies being born out of wedlock has increased sharply in the United States, driven primarily by significant jumps in women in their 20s and 30s having children without getting married, according to a new federal report from the National Center for Health Statistics.

Other findings:

More than 1.7 million babies were born to unmarried women in 2007, a 26 percent rise from 2002 and more than double the number in 1980.
The increase reflected a 21 percent jump in the rates of unmarried women giving birth, which rose from 43.7 per 1,000 women in 2002 to 52.9 per 1,000 women.
That means that unmarried women accounted for 39.7 percent of all U.S. births in 2007 — up from 34 percent in 2002 and more than double the percentage in 1980.


38 posted on 04/19/2010 3:14:12 AM PDT by MadMitch
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To: Young Werther

Some may take your statement at face value.


39 posted on 04/20/2010 1:19:14 PM PDT by the scotsman
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