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An M-16 In Your Pocket
Strategy Page ^ | 419/2010 | Strategy Page

Posted on 04/19/2010 6:44:07 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

One area of weapons development that has seen a lot of new, but generally unnoticed, developments in the past decade is the PDW (Personal Defense Weapon, or pistol replacement). One recent example is the Rock River Arms PPS (Performance Piston System) Pistol. This is a 5.56mm weapon that uses a new internal design. It has a short gas piston, with the recoil spring and guide rod over the 21cm (8 inch) barrel. The entire weapon (which does not have a stock) is 44.5cm (17.5 inches) long and weighs 2.2 kg (5 pounds). There are single shot and full automatic versions, each costing $1,335. If you want a smaller PDW, you often have to go with smaller ammunition. Thus a recent Chinese PDW design uses a 4.6x30mm round. The new weapon is a variant of the Type 79 PFW (which uses the old Russian 7.62x25mm round). The new weapon weighs 1.6 kg (3.6 pounds) and has a 30 round, dual stack, magazine. Rate of fire is single, 400 or 600 rounds per minute. It has a Picatinny rail on top for scopes and sights. With the telescopic stock closed, the weapon is 34cm (13.4 inches) long, and 54cm (21.2 inches) with the stock extended. The weapon is gas operated with a closed bolt.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Technical
KEYWORDS: 556mm; automaticweapon; banglist; bullet; m16; orareyouhappytoseeme; pdw; rifle
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1 posted on 04/19/2010 6:44:07 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove

cool


2 posted on 04/19/2010 6:45:59 PM PDT by GeronL (Cargo Cult Liberalism isn't going to work.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

This thread is worthless without pics.


3 posted on 04/19/2010 6:49:01 PM PDT by Ronin
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To: sonofstrangelove

A picture would be worth a thousand words.


4 posted on 04/19/2010 6:49:36 PM PDT by VoiceOfBruck (earthlings make me very angry)
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To: Ronin

Look it up.


5 posted on 04/19/2010 6:50:02 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

No, I’m just happy to see you...


6 posted on 04/19/2010 6:54:19 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 452 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
pretty...


7 posted on 04/19/2010 6:54:42 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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8 posted on 04/19/2010 6:56:02 PM PDT by mnehring
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9 posted on 04/19/2010 6:56:12 PM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: sonofstrangelove

10 posted on 04/19/2010 6:56:28 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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That’s gonna take a B I G Pocket.

;-)


11 posted on 04/19/2010 6:57:00 PM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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12 posted on 04/19/2010 6:58:22 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Do you mean This One?
13 posted on 04/19/2010 6:58:25 PM PDT by mc5cents
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14 posted on 04/19/2010 6:58:30 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 452 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

I’ve heard good things about these, but too pricey for me.

I am a cheapskate when there is so much old Warsaw Pact stuff floating around.


15 posted on 04/19/2010 6:58:31 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (The bureaucrat is the natural enemy of liberty.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Just “picture” the barrel length, then ask if you could hit someone 3 feet away with it.


16 posted on 04/19/2010 6:59:14 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (http://www.thepatriotsflag.com - The Patriot's Flag)
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To: sonofstrangelove
It's not nice to tease.
17 posted on 04/19/2010 6:59:23 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: sonofstrangelove; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; Squantos; marktwain; M Kehoe; pocat; SLB; wardaddy; ...
I'm not sure about the Rock River version referred to in the article, as the architecture of the AR has been changed. Not saying it isn't a good piece, just haven't heard much about it's reliability, maintainability etc.

That said, absolutely LOVE the AR pistol concept. Beautiful looking, compact and 100% legal. Just have to be careful to have all of your ducks in a row if you build one to be sure you don't run afoul of the ATF. You also have to read up to ensure that the one you build actually works.

Sweet machines though if you do them right.


18 posted on 04/19/2010 7:00:28 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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“Just “picture” the barrel length, then ask if you could hit someone 3 feet away with it.”

It has a longer barrel than any pistol I own, I don’t think the kick would be worse than a 44 mag, but the flash could be interesting if shooting indoors or at night.


19 posted on 04/19/2010 7:02:30 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: sonofstrangelove

A bit expensive at $1,335.00, but I’ve waited long enough for an addition to my bob. At 5lbs this will fill the need. You never know when a bunch of zombies sneak up on you.


20 posted on 04/19/2010 7:05:16 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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