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Arizona's Proposed Illegal Immigration Crackdown Akin To Nazi Tactics, Cardinal Roger Mahony Says
LATimes ^ | April 19th 2010

Posted on 04/19/2010 8:48:25 PM PDT by Steelfish

Arizona's Proposed Illegal Immigration Crackdown Akin To Nazi Tactics, Cardinal Roger Mahony Says

April 19, 2010 Cardinal Roger Mahony blasted Arizona's proposed crackdown on illegal immigration, calling it "the country's most retrogressive, mean-spirited and useless anti-immigrant law."

"American people are fair-minded and respectful. I can't imagine Arizonans now reverting to German Nazi and Russian Communist techniques whereby people are required to turn one another in to the authorities on any suspicion of documentation," Mahony wrote on his blog.

The Arizona measure, which has yet to be signed by Republican Gov. Jan Brewer, would require police, if they suspect someone is in the country illegally, to determine the person's immigration status. Currently, officers can ask about someone's immigration status only if the person is a suspect in another crime. Those who can't prove they are in the U.S. legally face misdemeanor charges.

Mahony is a long-time supporter of immigrant rights and has spoken out before on legislation be believes is unfair to immigrants.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigration; mahonyimmigration; phonymahony
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To: Steelfish

http://borderinvasionpics.com/Invasion.html


41 posted on 04/19/2010 10:33:49 PM PDT by WSGilcrest ( The momentary value of any argument lies in the capacity of the mind to which it is addressed.)
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To: pissant

I wonder, is the Church still losing massive numbers of members?

Sign me as a proud ex-Catholic


42 posted on 04/19/2010 10:56:42 PM PDT by ASOC (In case of attack, tune to 640 kilocycles or 1240 kilocycles on your AM dial.)
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To: Steelfish

Hey cardinal,the fact that most of the illegals are catholic isn’t shaping your opinion is it?Just a pew stuffer.


43 posted on 04/19/2010 11:05:23 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Frantzie

Mahony was all crestfallen after the election of BXVI. The LA Times had photos of him looking glum and sullen at LAX on his return from Rome after the conclave. He has completely lost the non-Hispanic Catholics and he now clings to his only constituency in a Cathedral that is virtually devoid of any traditional statuary and an image of muscular Virgin Mary at the portal to the Cathedral.

Court documents purport to show he shielded molesting priests.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-5327361-504083.html


44 posted on 04/19/2010 11:06:12 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Philo1962
What exactly did the “conservative” Law conseve?
45 posted on 04/19/2010 11:08:40 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Philo1962
What exactly did the “conservative” Law conserve?
46 posted on 04/19/2010 11:09:09 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

I like “People who live in grass houses shouldn’t stow thrones”.


47 posted on 04/19/2010 11:12:50 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Steelfish

Sounds like a typical fruity product of the tree that is California.


48 posted on 04/19/2010 11:34:49 PM PDT by Del Rapier
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To: Steelfish

Sorry, but Mahony is probably a Madam who passed around pedophile priests from congregation to congregation with “good intentions” that is ruining the church today. His moral authority would fit in the toe of my sock. I say that as a Catholic who knows that my church’s leaders have been infiltrated by evil and do not know the difference anymore.

Every Christian and Catholic, not possessed knows the host can not take care of the world unless it is taking care of itself with excess. Otherwise. it will die and do neither the host nor the suckers any good. That is the case with the church’s illegal invasion of our nation. They would be ashamed of themselves if they had any real moral authority. Passing around illegals who rob, rape and murder Americans as if this has something to do with Jesus.

The warped Catholic Marxist, in it’s wannbe global moral authority is as big as a grain of sand in my shoe. They coudl not see the sin and offence of pedophile priests just as they can not see the rape and murder of illegal invader of our Nation. Big surprise!


49 posted on 04/19/2010 11:36:04 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Steelfish
Yeah, except for the fact that it's entirely different, it's just the same!

PFfffft. Stay out of politics, Mr. Mahoney.

50 posted on 04/19/2010 11:36:54 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: Steelfish

That communist that has harbored criminals his entire career in Los Angeles belongs in prison!


51 posted on 04/19/2010 11:39:15 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Steelfish
These activist priests, cardinals or whatever scream loud about those poor and innocent illegals and are mute about the death of true innocents in abortions. People like this do more to harm the church than anyone can imagine.

Nam Vet

52 posted on 04/19/2010 11:44:50 PM PDT by Nam Vet (Innuendo IS NOT an Italian suppository.)
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To: Gene Eric
Making a heartfelt true statement is Catholic Bashing??

So I guess you are FOR illegals coming to this country and raping, robing, and shooting, while stealing our tax money?

You people that say criticizing the Church is Catholic Bashing are just bankrupt. Open your eyes and watch as the Church is destroyed by these lunatics. This embarrasses me just as having Pelosi tell the pope abortion isn't settled yet. I guess pedophile priests aren't settled doctrine yet. All we need now is a bunch of Bishops laying down in front of Border Patrol vehicles protecting criminals.

I wonder how you would feel if a bunch of Imam's were out waving Mexican flags and calling Border Patrol Nazi's? Would you defend the Muslims?

53 posted on 04/20/2010 12:41:31 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: Steelfish

“”The tragedy of the law is its totally flawed reasoning: that immigrants come to our country to rob, plunder and consume public resources.”
I don’t give a fat rat’s azz why they break into my country Mr. phony intellectual liberal asshat so called catholic.


54 posted on 04/20/2010 12:58:14 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Steelfish

Hey, Mahony:

“The importation of labor to suppress wages is a crime that cries out to the Heavens for vengeance.” — Rerum Novarum, the most cited papal encyclical in history.

But then again, so is raping children. Mahony’s pink palace seminary is the epicenter of the scandal. Thank God Pope Benedict finally canned this demonspawn.

Oh, by the way, Mahony has a personal interest in all this: He grew up on a modern-day Mexican slave plantation.


55 posted on 04/20/2010 4:51:25 AM PDT by dangus
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To: count-your-change

Flashback to the mid-1980s.

Cardinal Bernard Law was a staunch and outspoken opponent of “abortion rights” advocates, and others who were seeking to attack many of the traditional canon laws of the faith. Unfortunately, just like psychiatrists in those days, Law also believed that sex offenders could be rehabilitated. He was in charge of an archdiocese that had been allowing homosexual applicants into the priesthood for decades, with predictable results.

When Geraldine Ferraro (an abortion advocate who professed to be Catholic) became the Democratic Party’s VP nominee, Law joined with Archbishop John O’Connor of New York in a public denunciation of Ferraro and the abortion movement. This act was credited with influencing millions of blue collar workers who normally voted for the Democrats, but happened to be Catholic, to vote for Ronald Reagan. It was a factor in one of the biggest landslides in the history of presidential elections. The Mondale/Ferraro campaign was doomed almost before it began.

For this, Law and O’Connor earned the undying fury of the feminazis. A few years later, when thousands of sex abuse cases emerged in the archdioceses of Boston and Los Angeles (and in substantially smaller numbers elsewhere), feminazis saw their opportunity to get even. Bernard Law in Boston was relentlessly attacked, much as the Pope has been attacked in recent weeks; but Roger Mahony in Los Angeles, because of his liberal politics, was spared. Eventually, Law resigned as archbishop.


56 posted on 04/20/2010 5:04:27 AM PDT by Philo1962 (Iraq is terrorist flypaper. They go there to die.)
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To: Steelfish

http://articles.latimes.com/1992-09-18/local/me-635_1_auxiliary-bishop?pg=2

I can just see the mayor sitting stony-faced, simmering, during the cardinal’s tirade. But it wasn’t only Mahony’s lecture that antagonized Bradley. Mahony’s political methods are also abhorrent to the mayor.

Despite his ecclesiastical eminence, Mahony is a follower of the anti-Establishment politics of the late Saul Alinsky, who organized Chicago’s poor to fight a machine-dominated City Hall. “The only way to upset the power structure is to goad them, confuse them, irritate them,” said Alinsky. His organization, the Industrial Areas Foundation, spread, taking root in poor neighborhoods in East Los Angeles, the San Fernando Valley, the San Gabriel Valley and South L.A. It was organized around churches, especially Catholic parishes.

Mahony had learned the Alinsky method many years before. When he was an auxiliary bishop in the San Joaquin Valley, he helped Alinsky-disciple Cesar Chavez organize the farm workers union. When Mahony became archbishop of Los Angeles seven years ago, he immediately began working with the IAF organizations. In fact, the four IAF organizations, which had demanded more government action against gangs, helped shape the Hope In Youth anti-gang programs.

Alinsky would have cheered Mahony leading his rabble-rousing band down Main Street toward City Hall. But not the mayor. After a half-century in government—as a cop, city councilman and mayor—Bradley believes in rules and procedures. If L.A. is to be saved, it must be done by the book or it won’t be done at all.


57 posted on 04/20/2010 5:19:41 AM PDT by Haddit
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To: A.A. Cunningham
The Church's official position seems to be to support border laws, and to push for changing those laws to make immigration easier. The American Bishops seemed to be for the Amnesty bill in 2007, for example.

For example, here is a cns news article Catholic Bishops Launch New Push for Immigration Reform, Pathway to Citizenship:

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) will push to get immigration-reform legislation enacted in 2010. The group has voiced support for one Democrat-sponsored bill that grants a pathway to citizenship for people who came to this country illegally.

The Church's official view on "illegal immigrants" is not nearly so important to the discussion as their position on how the law should treat immigration.

58 posted on 04/20/2010 5:36:13 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: count-your-change

lol


59 posted on 04/20/2010 6:41:30 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: Philo1962
By the mid 1980’s Law's conservative position as it reflected the Catholic churche’s position was not necessarily the working view of many who identified themselves as Roman Catholics in Massachusetts and Boston. to wit:

In 1986 a referendum to restrict abortion failed by a clear majority of the voters and exit polls showed that voters who identified themselves as Catholic had voted against the Boston diocese's position by a majority.

How much influence on presidential voters Law had I don't know but Massachusetts has consistently re-elected an open homosexual and did re-elect Kennedy and Kerry.

How many pro-life Republicans have been elected in Catholic majority Massachusetts?

Law retired as archbishop to keep ahead of the sex abuse scandal and has a comfortable berth at the Vatican.

60 posted on 04/20/2010 6:52:26 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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