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Sarah Palin's 'Christian Nation' Remarks Spark Debate
Wash Post ^ | 4/20/10 | Ted Davis

Posted on 04/20/2010 5:32:20 PM PDT by pissant

Is America a Christian nation?

Sarah Palin said on Friday that it's "mind-boggling" to suggest otherwise.

But two groups dedicated to the separation of church and state are now speaking out against her, arguing that she is misreading the founders' intent.

"It's incredibly hypocritical that Sarah Palin, who disapproves of government involvement in just about anything, now suddenly wants the government to help people be religious," Barry Lynn, the executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, told ABC News.

"It is wildly inconsistent with her views on limited government to get the government involved in matters of faith."

Lynn was reacting to remarks Palin gave last Friday in Louisville, Ky., one day after a federal judge in Wisconsin ruled that the National Day of Prayer, created in 1952 by Congress, violated the First Amendment.

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KEYWORDS: americanhistory; christianheritage; christiannation; founders; godlesspinkos; obama; palin; palinversuscommies; sarahpalin
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To: yongin

Obama said that this wasn’t a Christian Nation, did he worry about approval polls?


61 posted on 04/20/2010 8:00:47 PM PDT by Bigtigermike (Loose lips sink ships, stay away RINO's)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

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62 posted on 04/20/2010 8:01:49 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: ari-freedom

“Otherwise people will still go to snopes to see if that email virus alert is real or not.”

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Wise people go to Trend Micro for that kind of information. Snopes is not reliable for such things.
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63 posted on 04/20/2010 8:03:27 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: DryFly
What prayer do you think is best for my children to say in school? Whatever one they and you want them to pray. The idea religion should be cleansed from public school is a concept supported by the Soviet Constitution.
64 posted on 04/20/2010 8:11:38 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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Know them by their enemies. Go Sarah, go!


65 posted on 04/20/2010 8:26:37 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: pissant; All

Someone makes an innocuous comment about this being a Christian nation and the Chicken Littles on the Left start screaming, “The theocrats are coming! The theocrats are coming!”

Typical.


66 posted on 04/20/2010 8:30:34 PM PDT by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Sarah, you’re truly magnificent.


67 posted on 04/20/2010 8:30:52 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Show me one example where the results of Democrat policy are not the opposite of what they promise.)
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To: pissant

It’s high time we Christians took back our right to freedom of expression. We’ve been stomped on long enough.

If the earth-worshipers and muzzies on the left don’t like it, that’s just tough.


68 posted on 04/20/2010 8:35:31 PM PDT by Allegra (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: Allegra

Amen Sister!


69 posted on 04/20/2010 8:37:05 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Okay, but there is nothing preventing that now.


70 posted on 04/20/2010 8:37:45 PM PDT by DryFly
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To: HighlyOpinionated

Double BUMP


71 posted on 04/20/2010 8:39:28 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Brilliant

Just remember when the 2012 primaries come around, who stood up and defended conservative values against the MSM and other leftwing kooks and who was hiding under their office desk or had their phones off the hook.


72 posted on 04/20/2010 8:40:27 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: reasonisfaith
Sarah, you’re truly magnificent.

Amen and amen. Palin is appealin' and she's leading the much-needed American restoration.

73 posted on 04/20/2010 8:47:58 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas...)
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To: pissant
Yes they do. Same with Bachmann. They hate these patriots.

The irony of the left is they came up with the slogan, "Hate is not a family value"

Raging hate seems to be their only value these days.

74 posted on 04/20/2010 8:52:42 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: mlizzy; Anti-Utopian

mlizzy and anti-utopian both have come to the conclusion that, based on the sinful behavior and actions of many Americans, America is not a “Christian” nation.

I have two responses to their conclusion.

First, if perfect Christian behavior on the part of the majority of a particular country’s citizens is the primary requirement for determining whether or not a nation is Christian, then I don’t think there ever has been or will be a “Christian” nation.

It’s easy to find un-Christlike behavior in any nation’s history past and present. This is unfortunately true for the United States as well - although I think there are also a great many examples of Christian values exhibited by many Americans past and present. Generosity, charity, sacrifice, and courage have (and still are) been lived out by our forefathers and many Americans who live today.

But by your “behavioral” definition, no nation, let alone the United States, could ever be a Christian nation - if Christian perfection is the determining criteria. As the scripture says, “All men have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.”

My second response is that that is not what people usually mean when they say that America is a Christian nation.

And, we also don’t mean that the United States is a Christan theocratic state (as Israel was in acient times)either. Neither do we mean that our Founding Fathers were all Christians, or perfect, sinless, saints.

No, what is meant when we say that America is a Christian nation is that our founding principles of equality, justice, and the rule of law are rooted in a Judeo-Christian world view. The most obvious example of this is in the Declaration of Independence:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

So, mlizzy and anti-utopian, while I understand what you are saying, I must disagree with your disagreement. The United States was and is founded upon Judeo-Christian principles and world-view. We don’t always live up to those principles, but we are founded upon them none the less.


75 posted on 04/20/2010 8:56:59 PM PDT by Nevadan
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To: pissant

Lynn is just crazy. Ray Billington, the historian, wrote a book called “The Protestant Crusade,” about the United States prior to the Civil War. He spoke of Protestant Christianity, or the American evangelical form of it, as the “unofficlal national Church” of the United States.” Before the Revolution, the people were largely unchurched. Beginning with the first Great Awakening, however, this began to change. During the Revolution, Churchmen, especially the Presbyterians and Congregationalists, were the major professional class supporting the Patriots. Lawyers were split, but doctors and preachers were generally behind the Revolution. The Revolutionary leaders were not especially religious, but during the 1790s, in part in reaction to the irreligion
in of the French Revolution, which broke the Franco-American alliance as much as anything, Americans began to join churches in droves. By the time of the Civil War, most Americans belonged to a church, including virtually all
political figures. Lincoln was exceptional in not belonging to any. In Dc, however, he attended the New York St. Presbyterian Church.


76 posted on 04/20/2010 9:02:49 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: daniel1212

After his son’s death in a duel, Alexander Hamilton underwent a kind of religious conversion. Hamilton was later killed by Burr in a duel, but he was strangely ambivalent of the matter. Torn between his sense of honor and the feeling that this was not right.


77 posted on 04/20/2010 9:07:02 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: mlizzy

Not nice! SARAH is a Christian - goes by The Bible, God’s Word - as all Christians are commanded to do - and not the doctrine of man.


78 posted on 04/20/2010 9:07:29 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: Hank Kerchief
Our society and culture, at least until the ‘60s and’70s, was strongly influenced by Christianity. That has changed to a marked degree as secular values have been so strongly asserted by the elites. People like Lynn, however, makes claims about the historical record that are plainly false.
79 posted on 04/20/2010 9:12:09 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Nevadan
Mr. Justice Douglas, a strong liberal, once commented that our institutions presuppose a supreme being. he cause flack for saying this, but it is obviously true. The modern liberal does not true to dispute this, he simply aims to deconstruct the institutions.
80 posted on 04/20/2010 9:16:16 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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