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Risk Grows That Israel Will Go Alone To Take Out Iranian Nukes
Washington Examiner ^ | April 27, 2010 | By Sara A. Carter

Posted on 04/27/2010 6:06:34 AM PDT by Strategy

The growing rift between the Obama administration and Israel, coupled with the administration's failure to rein in Tehran's nuclear program, has increased the chances that the Israelis will eventually launch an attack on Iran, experts said.

"U.S.-Israeli relations are at their lowest point since ... the early '80s," said Ilan Berman, vice president of the American Foreign Policy Council. "It has a lot to do with the fact that Israel thinks this administration is not serious about preventing a nuclear Iran. What is Israel going to do? I'm not certain one way or another. But from the rhetoric, there will come a determining point."

Berman said Israel "could wait and see if sanctions would work, [but] if Israel feels threatened it would strike first before allowing a nuclear Iran."

"If I had to put down odds, I think I would [bet on] the latter," he added.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; iran; iraniannukes; islam; israel; military; obama; palin; wot

1 posted on 04/27/2010 6:06:34 AM PDT by Strategy
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To: Strategy
"Berman said Israel "could wait and see if sanctions would work, [but]"

What sanctions? Don't hold your breath.

2 posted on 04/27/2010 6:11:42 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Strategy
As someone else pointed out to me, the movement of the SCUDs from Syria into Lebanon was probably done in preparation to counter or discourage an Israeli attack on Iranian nuclear facilities. Wondering how much this administration knew about the SCUDs. Did they give the wink to Syria to pass them through purposely to discourage an Israeli move against Tehran?
3 posted on 04/27/2010 6:13:12 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: Strategy

I don’t think they are naieve enough to believe that any effective sanctions are coming. They are getting ready to go for it without our help...likely with help from some surprising sources (like the Saudis, who loathe the thought of a Persian Shiite bomb)


4 posted on 04/27/2010 6:13:59 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Strategy

Hope Risk Grows That Israel Will Go Alone To Take Out Iranian Nukes


5 posted on 04/27/2010 6:14:36 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Prezdet Obama is what you get when you let the O.J. jury select a president !)
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To: Strategy
Obama has a plan.

Back away from Israel, question their policies
Support Israel's enemies
Go soft on Iran to force Israel to act alone
Demonize Israel to the world after the operation

6 posted on 04/27/2010 6:19:47 AM PDT by ryan71 (Let's Roll!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
What would the fallout be if the Saudis allowed Israel to use their airspace and that fact became known in the Muslim world? They might be able to avoid our/Iraqi airspace, but we'd probably still have to know it's happening. What's Israel's air refueling capability? The Jihadis would go nuts, SCUDs would rain on Israel, what would happen in Iraq?
7 posted on 04/27/2010 6:23:30 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: Strategy
The article says that it will take Iran until 2015 to develop nukes. That's the consensus of those in the know. I don't buy it.

1. N. Korea needs money and Iran is willing to buy. NK will sell anything from know-how to technology to delivery systems to a working model. It's just who they are. "After all," they'd reason, "Iran's getting the nuke, anyway. We might as well sell them XYZ."

2. The IAEA is simply unreiable, and any foreign intell agency with agents on the ground are only giving a best guess.

3. The US has turned a blind eye. That's official policy, so one can't trust official pronouncements from the USA.

Israel's best COA?

a. Any opening given accidentally by the enemy should be immediately seized. Better to ask forgiveness than permission.

b. US is supposed to be out of both Iraq and Afghan by 2012 as part of Obama's re-election strategy. That would be a great time to overfly (because we're not there) and to injure the guy with the big teleprompter mouth in his re-election bid. (so that you don't have to put up with him again.)

c. Do not trust anyone, and especially don't trust the US media, to include Jewish media types from the left or the right. For some reason, they are always spineless.

8 posted on 04/27/2010 6:34:17 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Strategy
If they wait too long, Tel Aviv may be hit hard!
IMHO
9 posted on 04/27/2010 6:43:58 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: ryan71

I wonder how that will work after Iran targets our ships. I’m hoping the Navy doesn’t take casualties because of O’s stupidity.

It would have been nice to have had a team effort. I just hope the Navy doesn’t get sucker-punched.


10 posted on 04/27/2010 6:45:16 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Strategy
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11 posted on 04/27/2010 6:54:03 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Strategy

Israel will eventually be forced to destroy Iran’s nuclear facilities. In hindsight, they should have used the window between November 08 and January 09 to launch the attack. But they gave the new U.S. regime the chance to prove itself, which it has. The next best opportunity to neutralize the threat posed by the Iranians is this afternoon.


12 posted on 04/27/2010 6:59:29 AM PDT by davius (You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
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To: meatloaf
US Navy warships being struck by the Iranians in the event of an Israeli strike fits in very well with Obama’s plan. Israel would be made responsible.
13 posted on 04/27/2010 7:00:03 AM PDT by ryan71 (Let's Roll!)
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To: MindBender26
You beat me to the PUNCH, I should hope that the

'Risk Grows That Israel Will Go Alone To Take Out Iranian Nukes'

We have got to STOP fighting Israel's battles.

14 posted on 04/27/2010 7:05:58 AM PDT by STD (islam a spiritual-legal-political Theocratic system of governance which is not to be questioned;)
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To: ryan71

Iran attacks us and Obozo points a finger at Israel. I don’t think that will play well to voters. Unless Obozo orders a massive retaliation, he’s toast.

Of course maybe that’s his plan. He’d benefit from patriotic fervor if he nailed Iran hard. I doubt he has it in him though.


15 posted on 04/27/2010 7:17:29 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: circlecity

No dessert when Abbas visits the WH unless he promises not to nuke anybody until after 2012. Must pinky swear to make it official.


16 posted on 04/27/2010 7:28:02 AM PDT by jazminerose
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To: STD

What battles have “we” fought for Israel?


17 posted on 04/27/2010 8:07:15 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: ryan71; meatloaf
US Navy warships being struck by the Iranians in the event of an Israeli strike fits in very well with Obama’s plan. Israel would be made responsible.

While I don't blame you for that characterization and assertion of 0bambi's setting up Israel as the responsible party, such "logic" is nonsensical, and simply advertizes to the world that "the US can be effectively bullied (under Zero)." Using paradigms that allow (yea verily, encourage) ourselves and/or our array of possible responses to become hostage to bad guys' threats is always a totally unacceptable premise. If we've determined the baddies are so vile as to attack the US because of actions by others, the Iranians simply need to be taken out by us alone, if need be with extreme prejudice, at the next feasible moment. "This afternoon" would work well, as someone else said earlier on this thread.

HF

18 posted on 04/27/2010 8:24:51 AM PDT by holden
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To: Strategy
if someone is in yer bedroom and tells ya they are going to slit yer throat, you dont show em where the kitchen cutlery resides...much less wait patiently for em to lay down a blade if they already have one...

Lord Bless and guide Israel, and forgive those of us who dont agree with the insanity from DC...

19 posted on 04/27/2010 8:36:48 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Strategy

Berman said Israel “could wait and see if sanctions would work,


When have sanctions EVER worked?


20 posted on 04/27/2010 8:45:01 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /s tag but is it really necessary?)
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To: Strategy

21 posted on 04/27/2010 8:49:54 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: TheThirdRuffian
Nevermind the historical past my friend, any comment I make will followed by accusations of anti-semitism, holocaust denial, fascism etc,

Burden yourself with the truth, won't you?

1) We didn't send in Marines to die in Beruit, Lebanon while Reagan was our C-in-C.

2) We didn't empty our arsenals of American weapons, so Israel could survive in 1973.

3) Nope, after hundreds of billions of dollars in financial aid over 62 years adjusted for inflation.

4) The USA didn't purchase peace between Israel and Egypt with our pocketbooks. That sham continues to date. Both Israel and Egypt must be laughing their collective asses off at our stupidity!

You didn't bother to ask me, so I'll pre-empt your second strike. I support the nation of Israel. What I can't endure is all of the arrogant attitude Israel has toward our country. They should be grateful for our 'special relationship. I'm all for supporting them, but please spare me all of this nonsense about Israel standing alone, we have carried them on our broken backs Ruffian.

22 posted on 04/27/2010 9:00:53 AM PDT by STD (islam a spiritual-legal-political Theocratic system of governance which is not to be questioned;)
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To: STD

I don’t see any “wars fought” in your list, which was your claim.


23 posted on 04/27/2010 9:29:13 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: STD

We went into Beirut in 1983 to cover Arafat’s retreat. That was hardly for Israel’s benefit. I do agree that both Israel and the USA would be better off without the “special relationship” It reminds me too much of special education.


24 posted on 04/27/2010 9:40:04 AM PDT by freedomrings69
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To: Strategy

That’s a curious way to put it: “Risk grows that Israel will go it alone”. Who’s risk?

It is Israel’s very survival at risk. Is Onada so stupid as to think Israel will not do what it must to protect itself.

If there is any risk, it is risk to US national security because of Onada’s abandonment of Israel.


25 posted on 04/27/2010 9:47:46 AM PDT by dools007
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To: STD
We have got to STOP fighting Israel's battles.

I case you weren’t been paying attention we have been at war with Iran since 1979 when they attacked our embassy and took our people hostage. They have been a global state sponsor of terrorism ever since. In more recent years they have sent material support and personnel directly to out battlefields in Afghanistan and Iraq resulting in the deaths of countless of our military service members and local civilians. They are working to establish a presence in South America to exploit our southern border. They are working to build weapons of mass destruction in direct violation of the IEA and UN sanctions and have threatened the destruction of Israel and the US. Heck they even threatened Sweden the other day.

The fact that we are already at war is undeniable if you open your eyes. Israel has nothing to do with it, we merely share the same enemy.

26 posted on 04/27/2010 9:58:51 AM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: Strategy

Bebe is being pushed into that position.
I have faith that Israel will NOT let themselves be attacked again. Syria better get a grip on thir actions, also.


27 posted on 04/27/2010 10:32:03 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Strategy

Israel will act alone, because we have a pansy and pillow biter in the White House, pure and simple.


28 posted on 04/27/2010 10:38:08 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: STD

It’s the old newsie editor in me. Love to edit headlines and copy to make them right.... and Right.

BTW, got to talk to you about that log-on name......

Be well :)


29 posted on 04/27/2010 12:48:54 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Prezdet Obama is what you get when you let the O.J. jury select a president !)
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To: circlecity
"U.S.-Israeli relations are at their lowest point since ... the early '80s,"

Refresh my memory please. Who was President in the early 80's? It started with a "C"...anyone? Anyone?

30 posted on 04/27/2010 12:51:36 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Strategy

Gee, I hope the risk is increasing.

We are defending and protecting Afghan warlords who take 9-year old ‘dancing boys’ as sexual slaves in Afghanistan.

All the Israelis did was treat Palestinians like people instead of animals and they have had nothing but grief for it since.

Funny we don’t hear a word about Jordan’s slaughter of hundreds of Palis in the 1970’s.

It’s those eEeevil Jooooos.


31 posted on 04/27/2010 12:51:59 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: holden

Given Obozo’s origins and the Chicago political horse he rode in on, it’s hard to believe that the great pretender is as naive as he acts. He has proven to the world that he has no executive skills. His “let’s give peace a chance” campaign act has long lost credibility save for a few who still worship at the altar.

The fool is a bewildering combination that should make anyone with a lick of sense, and self respect, deeply suspicious. He’s undoubtedly psychologically unbalanced. His actions towards Israel come from some deep seated antisemitism. No other explanation makes sense.


32 posted on 04/27/2010 1:23:52 PM PDT by meatloaf
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33 posted on 04/27/2010 2:08:30 PM PDT by SJackson (Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Personal Responsibility

White South Africa committed suicide under sanctions. But Iran is not made up of Afrikaners.


34 posted on 04/27/2010 2:41:24 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just liberals who lie.)
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To: Strategy

Too bad that Obama sided with the muslim dictator rather than helping these poor people:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcvEIuLVEbI

Obama is a ball-less muslim POS IMO

I’m going to laugh my ass off if Israel runs a mission in Iran in which there is no military attack against the population but rather they just take out A-jad and the Ayatollahs. Wouldn’t it be ironic if Israel sets Iran’s people free?


35 posted on 04/27/2010 3:51:12 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: SJackson

Just as well. The odds are steep enough without giving our back to Barack Hussein & co. on top of everything else.


36 posted on 04/27/2010 4:19:24 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( Two-state solution: A bad idea whose time has gone.)
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To: throwback

Watch for an Israeli strike against those scud launchers/sites as a prelude to the attack against Iran...
although I would say it’s a prelude of hours rather than days.


37 posted on 04/27/2010 4:51:08 PM PDT by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Let’s make it easy for you.

1) We were in Beirut so Israel could retreat from Lebanon with honor!That was the Lebanese Civil War fought by another of Israel’s proxies, BTW!

2) The Yom Kippur War was bought and paid for by the USA.

3) see previous post, we bought off Egypt, so Israel could have peace.

4) We have proped up Israel with our treasure and blood.

What part of the battles/wars aren’t you clear on now?


38 posted on 04/28/2010 12:20:29 AM PDT by STD (islam a spiritual-legal-political Theocratic system of governance which is not to be questioned;)
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To: STD

“We have got to STOP fighting Israel’s battles. “

neurosyphilis?


39 posted on 04/28/2010 10:49:34 AM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: dervish
So, your obvious liberal sensitivities empower you to call me names? You don't possess the professional background to utilize a neurologic term. You're a pathetic name calling shill for Israel, right, or wrong?

Your name calling response is all that remains for you. Your baby like response replaces any serious discussion about a 62 year old foolish American foreign policy.

Can you think of anymore snide remarks? Gonna throw the F-bomb? Are you gonna call me a Nazi, or a Holocaust denier, a anti-semite. That's all you've got left. Go for it!

40 posted on 04/28/2010 11:13:37 AM PDT by STD (islam a spiritual-legal-political Theocratic system of governance which is not to be questioned;)
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To: STD

“You don’t possess the professional background to utilize a neurologic term.”

It is a neurological term. Neurosyphilis causes dementia. Look it up. I’m not the one whose handle is “STD.”

I’m also not the one making false claims. I actually was giving you credit you probably don’t deserve by excusing your comment.


41 posted on 04/28/2010 1:17:40 PM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: dervish

By calling me names


42 posted on 04/28/2010 2:29:20 PM PDT by STD (islam a spiritual-legal-political Theocratic system of governance which is not to be questioned;)
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