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Samuel Adams quote - Important today!
University of Chicago - The Founder's Constitution ^ | 11/4/1775 | Samuel Adams

Posted on 04/28/2010 5:18:13 AM PDT by Loud Mime

The excerpt:

For no People will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when Knowledge is diffusd and Virtue is preservd. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauchd in their Manners, they will sink under their own Weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders.

The Full Letter:

18

Epilogue: Securing the Republic

CHAPTER 18 | Document 6

Samuel Adams to James Warren

4 Nov. 1775Writings 3:235--37

Let me talk with you a little about the Affairs of our own Colony. I perswade my self, my dear Friend, that the greatest Care and Circumspection will be used to conduct its internal Police with Wisdom and Integrity. The Eyes of Mankind will be upon you to see whether the Government, which is now more popular than it has been for many years past, will be productive of more Virtue moral and political. We may look up to Armies for our Defence, but Virtue is our best Security. It is not possible that any State shd long remain free, where Virtue is not supremely honord. This is as seasonably as it is justly said by one of the most celebrated Writers of the present time. Perhaps the Form of Governmt now adopted & set up in the Colony may be permanent. Should it be only temporary the golden opportunity of recovering the Virtue & reforming the Manners of our Country should be industriously improvd. Our Ancestors in the most early Times laid an excellent Foundation for the security of Liberty by setting up in a few years after their Arrival a publick Seminary of Learning; and by their Laws they obligd every Town consisting of a certain Number of Families to keep and maintain a Grammar School. I shall be very sorry, if it be true as I have been informd, that some of our Towns have dismissd their Schoolmasters, alledging that the extraordinary Expence of defending the Country renders them unable to support them. I hope this Inattention to the Principles of our Forefathers does not prevail. If there should be any Danger of it, would not the leading Gentlemen do eminent Service to the Publick, by impressing upon the Minds of the People, the Necessity & Importance of encouraging that System of Education, which in my opinion is so well calculated to diffuse among the Individuals of the Community the Principles of Morality, so essentially necessary to the Preservation of publick Liberty.

There are Virtues & vices which are properly called political. "Corruption, Dishonesty to ones Country Luxury and Extravagance tend to the Ruin of States." The opposite Virtues tend to their Establishment. But "there is a Connection between Vices as well as Virtues and one opens the Door for the Entrance of another." Therefore "Wise and able Politicians will guard against other Vices," and be attentive to promote every Virtue. He who is void of virtuous Attachments in private Life, is, or very soon will be void of all Regard for his Country. There is seldom an Instance of a Man guilty of betraying his Country, who had not before lost the Feeling of moral Obligations in his private Connections. Before [Dr. Benjamin Church, Jr.] was detected of holding a criminal Correspondence with the Enemies of his Country, his Infidelity to his Wife had been notorious. Since private and publick Vices, are in Reality, though not always apparently, so nearly connected, of how much Importance, how necessary is it, that the utmost Pains be taken by the Publick, to have the Principles of Virtue early inculcated on the Minds even of Children, and the moral Sense kept alive, and that the wise Institutions of our Ancestors for these great Purposes be encouragd by the Government. For no People will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when Knowledge is diffusd and Virtue is preservd. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauchd in their Manners, they will sink under their own Weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders.

The Founders' Constitution
Volume 1, Chapter 18, Document 6
http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch18s6.html
The University of Chicago Press

The Writings of Samuel Adams. Edited by Harry Alonzo Cushing.
4 vols. New York: G. P. Putnam's Sons, 1904--8.


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To: Loud Mime
But the Federalist Papers have many references to Democracy, all bad.

In the Federalist papers we're covering in the next few weeks, a democracy is contrasted with a republic. The result is that the conditions for a democracy are different from the conditions for a republic. It's scholarly criticism, not a condemnation.

41 posted on 04/28/2010 12:39:44 PM PDT by Publius (Unless the Constitution is followed, it is simply a piece of paper.)
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To: Publius
From Federalist 10, which has been already covered:

Hence it is that such democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.

The readers may use the above link to read the context of the paper.

42 posted on 04/28/2010 1:26:23 PM PDT by Loud Mime (initialpoints.net - - The Constitution as the center of politics -- Download the graph)
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To: Loud Mime

The founders abhorred the idea of a democracy and that is a fact!


43 posted on 04/28/2010 2:02:12 PM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Huck
We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion....Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. -Sam Adams 1798

Great video:
Is America A Christian Nation? - David Barton

44 posted on 04/28/2010 2:55:56 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Loud Mime

Is that why one of the first acts of congress after yorktown was to print bibles for all the schools in the country?


45 posted on 04/28/2010 3:05:56 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Loud Mime

Never knew they made something like it, never seen it either. I just posted the picture because it was article about Samuel Adams’ words.


46 posted on 04/28/2010 3:37:16 PM PDT by wastedyears (The Founders revolted for less.)
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To: wastedyears

I’ve never seen anything like that either.

In Germany they had a dark bier called Kulmbacher 28. It was 28% alcohol....56 proof!

My brother and I once shared a couple of bottles; he said it had been a LONG time since he felt that way after 2 beers.


47 posted on 04/28/2010 5:03:19 PM PDT by Loud Mime (initialpoints.net - - The Constitution as the center of politics -- Download the graph)
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To: wastedyears
Looks tasty.

If you want to know where the US is heading, just look at the Bay Area of Kalifornia and its sister region Mexico. Nothing but a bunch of small time mobsters controlling a majority of the private and public sectors. If you want to know what a big time mobster looks like, just look below.

Not a bad gig if you are near the top of that pyramid.

48 posted on 04/28/2010 9:05:06 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Loud Mime
Since private and publick Vices, are in Reality, though not always apparently, so nearly connected...

Dedicated to all those liberals who said that Clinton's private dalliances had nothing to do with his performance as President.

49 posted on 04/28/2010 9:45:04 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: WVKayaker

That picture irritates the **** out of me!


50 posted on 04/30/2010 6:19:40 AM PDT by Loud Mime (initialpoints.net - - The Constitution as the center of politics -- Download the graph)
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