Posted on 04/28/2010 5:47:44 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
I wanted to read the article, but it’s from the NYSLIMES...so couldn’t do it.
Obviously your reading skills are lacking today. From my post #5:
"I think she handled it poorly but she was 17 at the time."
Once again I would state that even she believes she handled it poorly. I'm not talking about what happened in the moments after the wreck. I'm talking about the aftermath. I would suggest you read the last four paragraphs of the article where she explains what she wishes she had done.
Actually, I think that understanding went out the window when Clinton politicized Andrew in the '92 election.
True, Clinton used Andrew for political advantage. But Bush didn’t have to go along with it when he was in power. You never let the other side define the playing field.
He should have challenged the faulty assumptions underlying the other side’s arguments, and explained why the only sensible arrangement is for the state and local people — who are already in place — to be the first responders and have primary responsibilty. He should have hit hard and repeatedly on the fact that it was the Governor’s responsibility to ask for help, and she dragged her feet in doing so.
He could have done all that while still expressing sympathy for the people in New Orleans, and pointing out how the feds were performing in the way the system was set up to perform, and doing extra stuff besides.
I comprehended what you said; don't comprehend WHY you said it.
How would any "normal" 17 YO handle it any differently? Obviously she was quite tramatized by the entire thing...probably more than many 17 YO kids would be today.
I got the impression that her parents might have been over-protective of her---which is understandable, also. But not letting her go to his funeral?...seems to have added to the guilt in later years.
IIRC, she had dated or was dating him. He was not a stranger to her but a friend.
WHY I said it was a response to Post #2 (that’s why #2 was to puh102). The problem here as I see it is that you believe even the most mild critism of Laura Bush is an attack. I simply agreed with HER OWN assessment that not reaching out to the victims family was a mistake. Frankly when I was 17 I wasn’t even as mature as she likely was which is why I pointed out that her age was a mitigating factor.
I’m not attacking Laura Bush! I’m simply agreeing with her that she should have reached out to the family. If they rejected her approach then that’s their problem but that is what she should have done and that is what she believes she should have done. If you don’t like it take it up with her.
You seem to be mad about our exchange...and I never was.
I’d guess the problem was learning that without asking, when every other delegation might be doing the same, because nobody wants to reveal that their leader might have been poisoned.
What expression on my face makes you believe I was mad? Perhaps it was my tone of voice? At any rate you and I have been around here too long to get "mad" at the drop of a hat. I certainly was perturbed however that you kept asking questions that had obvious answers or had been answered before or addressed before. You pointed out that Laura Bush was only 17 when the crash happened even though the original statement I made that you were responding to said EXACTLY the same thing. You wondered out loud what brought my comments on in the first place when obviously I was responding to another FReepers statement/question in those comments. You appeared to ignore Laura Bush's own regrets over her handling of the issue instead focusing on my agreement with her.
Last of all you were the one who called me "narrow-minded" and gave the smart ass comment "You were there?" So you see I'm not mad at all. I think you're kind of stupid, but I'm not mad at you for being so. You seem bitter. I hope you have a better day tomorrow.
Your lawyer is a fool if he told you that. An accident is getting hit by a meteor. You should have yielded and made sure it was clear for you to left turn before proceeding. It doesn't matter if you were at the limit line or rolled into the intersection to wait, you must yield to on-coming traffic...
The only way here to be found not at fault, is to have witnesses state that the on-coming vehicle blew the red light. But the fact is, you have to watch, because the red light means nothing in real life, and if ya left turn in front of an on coming vehicle, you could be dead in an instant.
Intersections are death traps. The grave yards are full of those that lost their lives in intersections.
The people who really know me will laugh at both your assertions
The people who really know me will laugh at both your assertions.
What expression on my face makes you believe I was mad? Perhaps it was my tone of voice?
That is stupid!...and I'm still laughing at you!
I see you had to try twice to respond the way you wanted to. As far as “the people who really know you go” please tell your nurse hello when she comes to check on you.
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Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:20:59 AM · 53 of 53
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I think you’re kind of stupid, but I’m not mad at you for being so. You seem bitter.
The people who really know me will laugh at both your assertions.
What expression on my face makes you believe I was mad? Perhaps it was my tone of voice?
That is stupid!...and I’m still laughing at you!
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Laura Bush Opens Up About Crash
Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:16:27 AM · 52 of 53
lonestar to Artemis Webb
I think you’re kind of stupid, but I’m not mad at you for being so. You seem bitter.
The people who really know me will laugh at both your assertions
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I'm leaving shortly for an overnight with friends so I'll get back to you when I return.
Save your agressions for me---be nice to your wife and kids. You seem to have some anger management issues.
When it comes to algebra---I am stupid! Had grades to prove it!
And just because it's an accident doesn't mean you aren't at fault. You are. Obviously I wouldn't have put myself in front of a speeding car intentionally. And my driving was not impaired. 3 out of 4 lanes had come to a stop, I was hanging out there, and I simply didn't see the car coming in the fast lane. I saw a blur of white and that was that.
I was following the normal way people made a left there. I learned the hard way that it was incorrect procedure, and never made the same mistake again. I was at fault. And it was a mistake, or bad procedure, if you will.
One more thought—Not to try to absolve myself. But when they teach you driving, they should spend more time on left turns than they do for parallel parking. Left turns are dangerous.
You'd consider a meteor to the head intentional?
I'm calling it an accident as in a mistake or error. The best ballplayers make errors.
Ya but if a ball player makes a mistake, people don't go to the hospital or get buried.
And just because it's an accident doesn't mean you aren't at fault.
Wrong again. An accident is a deer running into the side of your vehicle...You're confusing neglect with an accident.
I simply didn't see the car coming in the fast lane. I saw a blur of white and that was that.
Clearly, you weren't paying attention. It's called neglect, and failure to yield...
I was at fault. And it was a mistake, or bad procedure, if you will.
Yes you were at fault....And again, no one said you did this "intentionally". It's called failure to yield, not paying attention and neglect....Not an "accident".
If I had the power, I run new drivers through a trip to the morgue and have everyone watch, "Red asphalt IV".
Asteroids and deer are just natural occurences, and there's nothing a driver can do sometimes to avoid it. In my case, I made a sketchy left turn, thinking all the lanes had stopped, when in fact one car was speeding through the red light. I got the summons because, making a left, I didn't have the right of way. The other driver wasn't smart to blow through a red light either. But that's fine. I understand the rule.
Anyway, accidents, in my view, involve an error.
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