Posted on 04/28/2010 6:39:51 AM PDT by Thurston_Howell_III
The US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has new lead paint laws going into affect on April 22, 2010. The new lead paint laws require any renovation work performed on houses built before 1978 to be performed by a certified contractor.......If you hire a contractor to do a renovation in your home that was built prior to 1978 be sure you hire a certified contractor. You should ask to see your contractors RRP certification prior to hiring them. Contractors performing work without the certification face penalties of $37,500 per day!
The new lead paint laws require any renovation work performed on houses built before 1978 to be performed by a certified contractor
Ensuring they will be performed by neighborhood drunks and illegal Mexicans for cash money...
We are losing the country, bit by bit.
About three minutes ago I was wondering “What next?” and then run into this.
Soon we will have more bureaucrats than citizens.
Sounds like we need to hire them as “advisors” and “do the work ourselves”
Unconstitutional on its face.
helps the unions, natch
BO & the socialists have long ago rejected the Constitution.
You are quite correct. Our government is cultivating a gigantic underground economy - - something like the citizens of the Soviet Union enjoyed.
I'm waiting for the regulators to hit garage sales and flea markets. Of course, when that happens, the big tax Democrats will blame the republicans.
I’m in Real Estate and this has already put two friends of mine out of business as renovators. The expense of getting your certification along with the “clean suits” etc. A small repair guy is usually living hand to mouth as it is.
As for home sales, this slows down the “flip property” business because of added expense for repairs. They’ll have to be passed on.
This will have a major negative affect on all things Real Estate.
Guess I’ll do all the work myself... dirt bag MOFO’s
He is HVAC contractor. I couldn't get him in a training class before the 22nd.
He knows to bring in someone certified to do tear out work if necessary. Otherwise, a big fine.
I’m a licensed plumbing contractor. I just went through the certification classes held by a EPA approved course.
Folks, what a absolute joke this is. It’s main focus is to steal more money from small business. I had to paid $185.00 for the 8 hour class. But to be certified I have to pay another $300.00 to the government, i.e. EPA. It’s only good for 5 years. They have no one to police it except for the lawyers and you can be sure there are plenty of those goat sniffers.
The class instructs you to jump through all these hoops to confine & contain any dust you create while removing a window. (remember, I’m a plumbing contractor) Then we have to carefully roll up all plastic that was laid down, vacuum and then wipe down the area with a wet swifter. We have to take pictures before & after then we take all this so called hazardous lead dust and set it out at the curb for normal pick up! This is just a tenth of the requirements.
Guess who gets the bill for all this crap.....you do!
1-”The repairs are minor, with interior work disturbing less than six sq. ft. or exteriors disturbing less than 20 sq. ft”.
2-”If the house or components test lead free by a Certified Risk Assessor, Lead Inspector, or Certified Renovator”.
...rule “1” is impossible. “Six square feet” doesn’t cover a closet. “Twenty square feet” wouldn’t cover 3 planks of hardboard!
...rule “2” is improbable because an inspector will worried about liability and will usually claim the lead is present. Inspectors are already getting their asses sued off for everything else.
I’m waiting for the regulators to hit garage sales and flea markets.
Wrap your mind around the fact that Waco II could happen in some Citizen’s garage.
>> I had to paid $185.00 for the 8 hour class. But to be certified I have to pay another $300.00 to the government, i.e. EPA. It’s only good for 5 years.
C’mon, it’s hungry - it needs more to satisfy its appetite - your vocation was simply next on the menu.
>> The class instructs you to jump through all these hoops...
Ya’ know those gremlins at the EPA are laughing their asses off. They sure do have quite a bit of bureaucratic control.
As others have mentioned their gripe was that is was yet another license to maintain and another set of hoops to jump through. And we all know that the day-laborers will follow the rules, right?
Hey Gene, to make this requirement even more stupid, they have a form you can have the homeowner fill out AND SIGN saying they wish to opt out of all these requirements!
Guess which way all the General Contractors I would with are going to go? Still need the certification and still have to pay someone to test the paint if you opt out that way.
You’re right, either way they got you by the short curly ones.
Is this anything like the certified inferiority that permeates our public school classrooms?
Did your General mention all the pictures that have to be taken, the forms that have to be completed, the notices that you have to distribute and have signed, the bio-hazard coveralls and respirators that have to be used, the hepa vacuums?
No, he certainly did not. I'm not advocating for the new rules, just sharing what somebody in the business told me. Obviously, since I've hired somebody to do the work, I'm not in the renovation business myself; I can only rely on what I've been told by those who are.
The thing that really caught my attention about the brochure are the instances of misspelling of the word "lead" in captions for at least two of the illustrations. It was spelled "led".
Somebody working in "editing" at EPA must be a childhood victim of lead-based paint in his/her home.
God, Protect us from our protectors.
You are correct. So why do HVAC, Plumbing, Electrical contractors have to be certified?
SO THE GOVERNMENT CAN CONFISCATE MORE OF OUR MONEY!
So what if they can’t spell? THEY ARE GOING TO CONTROL OUR HEALTHCARE. What could go wrong with that?
You won’t get a loan to buy the used home unless the government loan agency( or it’s fake private agent) has paperwork certifying the new architectural white walls, and ceiling white/blue ceilings were done by a ‘certified’ contractor with a job number/check/location
This is a tax collection scheme, union support, EPA fetherbedding racket. ( Nothing happens unless someone, somewhere benefits. Obey your overlords.)
What about apartment complexes built before 1978? Do I have to have certified maintenance workers to rehab our apartments that were built prior to 1978?
Another example of government run amok. P*ss on you, EPA. I REFUSE to allow you to tell me what to do. I REFUSE to obey.
Whatcha gonna do about it?
“So what if they can’t spell? THEY ARE GOING TO CONTROL OUR HEALTHCARE. What could go wrong with that?”
Taht’s a mute point! It’s irrevalunt! If you catch newmonia, or sum diseese, u will b fixt 4 free! Rite?
On part of the Feds or the citizens?
I got my cert. last month. What a complete pain in the arse! A gigantic waste of time and materials. We will all be using paper bags at the market soon since all available plastic will be strewn all over people’s houses to catch a grain a dust.
Karl,
Sounds like you have old wood windows. Have you looked into having them restored? Much cheaper than replacement and your U value will be 90% of a new window except you can realize your savings in under 5 years compared to 30 years for new.
About two weeks before the 22nd I had a contractor demo upper and lower kitchen cabinets. Cost $250.00 including haul away. After the 22nd it would have been $3000.00. Timing is everything.
Having spent many years in the paint business, was well aware of the lead situation, but did not know about this latest ripoff. Back in ‘78 it was a bogus crisis, once again led by our beloved Ted Kennedy.
I wonder if the EPA has their own ninja suited SWAT TEAMS yet?
I think it’s official: THE EPA IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION.
yep, ann u porbali wil die waiteing to cee a docter.
Absolutely, no body is safe. And, if they do work in multi-family units, all the tenants have to SIGN a form saying that they were notified, but, if they won’t sign you can mark a box on the form saying they wouldn’t sign. Stupid, I know.
Sounds like you learn well. The classes I’m familiar with cost $295.
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