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When Barry met Billy
American Thinker ^ | May 1, 2010 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 05/02/2010 6:27:55 AM PDT by libstripper

I am much less interested in the recycled National Enquirer report of an Obama tryst with a mistress than I am with the question of when Barack Obama first met William Ayers. The estimable Ed Morrissey of Hot Air previews a new book that claims to have uncovered evidence that the two men met far earlier than the campaign's claimed date of 1995. Ed quotes the book's co-author Aaron Klein:

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ayers; birthcertificate; certifigate; democrats; eligibility; kenya; leftists; liberals; media; meeting; msm; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamalies; terror; terrorism; usurper
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More evidence that the Illegal is a Trojan Horse/Manchurian Candidate who was groomed for years, probably starting in Hawaii with Frank Marshal Davis, who came from Chicago. Ayers' father, the former chairman of Commonwealth Edison, seems to ave been a real closet radical.
1 posted on 05/02/2010 6:27:55 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

This is the ONLY thing that Pres_ _ent Obama does not
flip flop on. He supports anyone who bombed the Pentagon.


2 posted on 05/02/2010 6:32:05 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States … shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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To: libstripper; Jet Jaguar; Lady Jag; Slings and Arrows; maggief; Dog; BP2; Candor7; martin_fierro; ...

pingo


3 posted on 05/02/2010 6:33:38 AM PDT by bitt ("WE THE PEOPLE" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVAhr4hZDJE)
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To: libstripper

All Alinsky


4 posted on 05/02/2010 6:45:35 AM PDT by FrankR (Standing up against tyranny must start somewhere, or the future will belong to the tyrants.)
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To: libstripper

Glen Ellyn is due west of Chicago, not southwest.


5 posted on 05/02/2010 6:54:06 AM PDT by drubyfive
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To: libstripper; onyx; RobinMasters; freekitty; jesseam; T.L.Sink; justiceseeker93; Nachum; ...

It’s only going to take one crack and the flood waters will pour forth. One patriot willing to tell the truth for the sake of his/her country.


6 posted on 05/02/2010 7:01:08 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
My view is grandpa Dunham, a genuine leftist, started it all out by hooking the young Illegal up with Frank Marshal Davis, who came from the Chicago communist cabal. Davis became the Illegal's first controller and passed him on to other, even more virulent, persons who hooked up with him at Columbia (how did the Illegal finance that education) and he was then hooked up with Ayers who became, and probably remains, his controller.
7 posted on 05/02/2010 7:10:57 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Yes indeed.


8 posted on 05/02/2010 7:24:30 AM PDT by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: libstripper

Agreed. And Frank Marshall Davis was friends with Valerie Jarrett’s father-in-law in Chicago back in the day. Also I read somewhere (I’ll see if I can find it again) that while BO was in NY - WA&BD lived nearby. BD worked at a boutique and was stealing credit card info from customers - it also involved some of their fellow activists - one of which was connected to BO and protests he did. The accusation in that article was that BO was involved with the credit card fraud then too. I want to say there was something about a vw that connected BO, BD and the protest against some African country. Traffic ticket? I think there is probably something to be found in his traffic tickets in MA too.

Good post - very interesting stuff and lends credence to the Russian woman’s claim that they were grooming him. Don’t forget - SDS members traveled to foreign countries and had meetings with communist leaders. I personally find the BO connection with Jodie Evans very interesting since she’s been traveling in the WA&BD, Jane Fonda & Tom Hayden circles.


9 posted on 05/02/2010 7:27:28 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: ExTexasRedhead; All

Read this article carefully; it contains two vital points:

1) In the time between when the Illegal graduated from Columbia and when he went to Harvard Law, he went to the elder Ayres’ house to thank them for contributing to his education. Bill Ayers’ father was the chairman of Commonwealth Edison and, thus, able to finance the Illegal’s education. Why would he do that for an unknown individual from far off Hawaii and how did he come to know that individual? The most likely explanation is the elder Ayres was a sleeper part of Chicago’s communist cabal and was hooked up with the Illegal by Frank Marshal Davis, the old Chicago communist.

2) Mrs. Ayres, Bill Ayres’ mother, remarked that the Illegal was “from Kenya,” further supporting the hypothesis that the Illegal is not a natural born American and, quite possibly, not even a citizen.


10 posted on 05/02/2010 7:36:34 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper; neverdem; Free ThinkerNY; ETL; Scanian; george76; backhoe; opentalk; obama-facts; ...

one-time ping if y’all don’t mind

INTERESTING..... tantalizing info that Bill Ayers’ PARENTS knew and “supported” Obozo’s education before he even got to Harvard Law School!!!!

Much of significance here that needs continued investigation that the Mediascum will never do......


11 posted on 05/02/2010 7:52:06 AM PDT by Enchante (Obama and Brennan think that 20% of terrorists re-joining the battle is just fine with them)
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To: libstripper

Has anyone else noticed that the mistress story appears on the fringes whenever questions about 0bama’s carefully hidden life arise?


12 posted on 05/02/2010 7:52:19 AM PDT by Kanzan
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To: libstripper

Obama and the unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers were at college — within a quarter mile of each other — for two years in 1982 and 1983.

When Obama was at Columbia, Ayers was at Bank Street College (BSC), where he received an M.A. in Early Childhood Education — 371 yards down the street.

BSC has no student housing, everyone lives off Campus. Columbia DOES have housing and encourages students to live on campus. However, Fox News interviewed 400 former students from his graduating class and no-one remembers him!

Presumably Obama lived off campus also.

Obama and Ayers had mutual friends. One was Edward Said, the left-wing Columbia superstar was just recently out of hiding. It is inconceivable, given their concentric politics, that they did not know each other.

Obama won’t release his transcripts (actually he won’t reveal any documentation from his past). Was it because it would reveal his ties to Ayers, a class in common (BSC has collaborations with Columbia), or maybe a common street address?

Obama’s Chicago Period began in 1985, when some leftists were looking for someone who could recruit in a black neighborhood in the south side of Chicago and Obama applied for the position as a community organizer for the Developing Communities Project (DCP) of the Calumet Community Religious Conference (CCRC) in Chicago. The “Project” was funded with a $25,000 grant from Bill Ayers’ Woods Fund.

They’ve know each other forever.


13 posted on 05/02/2010 7:59:36 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


14 posted on 05/02/2010 8:13:28 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: libstripper

From the article:

“Mrs. Ayers told me that her family had been helping out a brilliant young black man,” Hulton said and whom he believes she said was from Kenya. Hulton said that over the period of six to ten years that he delivered mail to the Ayers home he had numerous conversations with Mrs. Ayers, one conversation with Thomas Ayers and several brief encounters with Bernardine Dohrn who he said lived at the home for several months at one point in time. He never met or saw Bill Ayers at the home.


15 posted on 05/02/2010 8:14:18 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: LucyT

From the article:

“Mrs. Ayers told me that her family had been helping out a brilliant young black man,” Hulton said and whom he believes she said was from Kenya. Hulton said that over the period of six to ten years that he delivered mail to the Ayers home he had numerous conversations with Mrs. Ayers, one conversation with Thomas Ayers and several brief encounters with Bernardine Dohrn who he said lived at the home for several months at one point in time. He never met or saw Bill Ayers at the home.


16 posted on 05/02/2010 8:20:17 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: All

The more detailed info on the Allen Hulton (postman and h.s. classmate of Bill Ayers’ brother Tim Ayers) is found on this blog called “King Harvest” -— it appears to be a rather left-wing blog by a Stephen Diamond who is one of the rare leftists who does not shrink from confronting inconvenient information. Anyway, it’s certainly not some “right wing” blogger. I’m posting the info here with link, just b/c we know how important info can go down the Orwellian “memory hole” when the left starts cleaning up after Obama et al.

Barack Obama’s Visit to the Other Ayers House

by Stephen Diamond on September 25, 2009

http://02ce1ab.netsolhost.com/KingHarvest/?p=1245

Barack Obama visited the house of Tom and Mary Ayers, parents of former Weather Underground activist turned education professor Bill Ayers, in the mid-1980s to thank the Ayers’ for their support of his education, according to Allen Hulton, the letter carrier who delivered mail to the Ayers’ Glen Ellyn home at that time. Glen Ellyn is a suburb of Chicago, southwest of the city.

Hulton spoke to King Harvest at length about his experience. The statement by Hulton is the first eyewitness account of a possible relationship between Obama and Tom Ayers and the first that dates his relationship with the Ayers family to the mid-1980s.

It is acknowledged widely now that Bill Ayers and Obama had a close and longstanding relationship because of the role that Ayers played in promoting Obama’s career including, for example, Ayers’ appointment of Obama as Chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, the $150 million education reform effort that Ayers founded in 1994. Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn held a campaign event in their Hyde Park home for Barack Obama in late 1995.

tom-ayersThis blog has also suggested, however, that Obama may have had a relationship with Tom Ayers in light of the importance of the senior Ayers in Chicago politics and his role in the same educational issues as Obama. In 1988 Obama’s Developing Communities Project (the “DCP”) joined the Alliance for Better Chicago Schools (“ABC’s”), a lobbying alliance, to push for the reform of Chicago schools through the creation of so-called “Local School Councils” (“LSC’s”) that would watchdog teachers and administrators.

The proposal was very controversial and groups like Operation PUSH headed by Jesse Jackson did not support it because many teachers were black – it was one of the first stable middle class careers a black person, and black women in particular, could aspire to in Chicago. Tom Ayers and Bill Ayers were strong supporters of the LSC’s, however, and Chicago United, a group founded by Tom Ayers, joined ABCs too. Bill Ayers became chair of ABCs.

In addition, a senior Democratic party activist who was involved in the Obama campaign including direct contact with Obama confirmed that the relationship between Obama and Bill Ayers went back to the 1980s, the time period of Hulton’s encounter outside the home of Tom Ayers. Most recently, credible evidence has emerged that Bill Ayers ghostwrote the Obama memoir Dreams from My Father, which was published in 1995.

The Obama Presidential campaign denied any close ties between Obama and Bill Ayers and said initially they only met in late 1995 when Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn hosted the event in support of Obama’s campaign for the Illinois State Senate. They later admitted the two had to have met earlier in light of the role both played at the Annenberg Challenge.

As President, Obama has not yet been asked about the Ayers relationship and has, as far as one can tell, never been asked about his relationship with Tom Ayers.

At the time of their encounter, Hulton recalls, Obama “looked about 19 years old” but was probably in his early 20s. Obama graduated from Columbia University in 1983 and moved to Chicago in 1985 at age 24 or 25 to head up the DCP, a fledgling community organization modeled after similar groups started by Saul Alinsky, on the south side of Chicago. The DCP had secured a grant from the Woods Fund, endowed by the Woods family, to finance the hiring of Obama.

The Woods family owned Sahara Coal Company, which supplied coal to utility companies in the Midwest possibly including Commonwealth Edison. Tom Ayers was Chairman and CEO of Commonwealth Edison from 1973 until 1980. Ayers died in June of 2007 at the age of 92 in Hyde Park where he had been living with his son Bill and Dohrn.

“Mrs. Ayers told me that her family had been helping out a brilliant young black man,” Hulton said and whom he believes she said was from Kenya. Hulton said that over the period of six to ten years that he delivered mail to the Ayers home he had numerous conversations with Mrs. Ayers, one conversation with Thomas Ayers and several brief encounters with Bernardine Dohrn who he said lived at the home for several months at one point in time. He never met or saw Bill Ayers at the home.

Hulton explained that he knew Tim Ayers, the son of Tom and brother of Bill, when they were both students at Glenbard High School, which draws students from the towns of Glen Ellyn and Lombard, Illinois. Over time the Ayers’ parents became aware of the connection to their son Tim and that led to a friendlier relationship between Hulton and Tom and Mary Ayers.

“They tipped me generously at Christmastime,” Hulton recalled.

One day Hulton found himself on the sidewalk outside the Ayers home at 199 N. Montclair Avenue near the corner of Revere Road just after he had delivered the mail. The house was “very nice and attractive and more expensive than some in Glen Ellyn because it was closer to downtown, but it did not stand out among the houses on that block.” He said the largest and most expensive homes were actually on Revere, around the corner from the Ayers’ home.

As Hulton was on the sidewalk walking away from the Ayers house a tall and thin young black man was coming up the same sidewalk towards the Ayers house.

Hulton recalls that Obama said hello and introduced himself and stopped to chat with him in front of the Ayers house. “I recall that his ears stuck out a little bit. He was more gaunt then than he appears now. His name was an unusual one and when I saw his photo during the campaign it brought back my memory of the event,” Hulton said.

Mr. Obama explained that he had taken the train out from Chicago to visit the Ayers’ in order to thank them for their help with his “education.” At this time, Mr. Obama had recently graduated from Columbia and would soon enter Harvard Law School. Hulton and Obama “spoke for a few minutes, first chatting about the Ayers family,” Hulton said. Hulton said he did not learn whether the help Obama received from the Ayers’ was financial or in some other form.

Hulton agreed that it was an exceptional event to encounter a black man on his route and that Obama may have felt it prudent to introduce himself to the letter carrier before approaching the Ayers house. Hulton usually delivered mail on Montclair at mid-day, “sometimes as early as 11:30 in the morning or as late as 12:30 or 1:00 PM.”

Hulton says he recalls when the very first black family moved into the upper middle class white suburb in the 1960s. Hulton says at the time, after he had come out of military service, he was a supporter of Martin Luther King who had pressed for fair housing in the Chicago area. “I took some flak about my support for civil rights from my fellow workers at the time,” he said.

Mr. Hulton recalls that he probably asked what Mr. Obama was studying in school and at one point Mr. Obama said that he intended to become President of the United States. Mr. Hulton said he was “taken aback” by the statement but recalls that he did not think Mr. Obama was “arrogant, but just self assured and a person with a lot of self confidence.” “It was not said with hubris,” Hulton recalled, “but with an air of self-assuredness.”

“I told him there was no reason why he couldn’t become president,” Hulton recalled. Obama was dressed “nicely but casually, a slacks and shirt, not jeans and a t-shirt, but definitely not a coat or tie,” he said. After the brief conversation Hulton continued on his route and did not turn back to see whether the Ayers’ were at home or whether Obama entered their house.

Hulton delivered mail in Glen Ellyn for 39 years with two years off to serve in the U.S. military. He retired in 2001 and is now 66 years old. King Harvest confirmed his employment as a letter carrier with Ray Wasz, Finance Supervisor of the Glen Ellyn Post Office.

Hulton said he encountered Tim Ayers at a high school reunion recently where Tim spoke in a “wide eyed way” of Bernardine Dohrn’s career as a law professor. “She is a star and her students love her,” Hulton recalls Ayers saying.

ayers-dohrnDohrn is a member of the law school faculty at Northwestern although she was prevented from becoming a member of the New York bar because of her criminal record and background in the Weather Underground. Hulton said that Mrs. Ayers told him that her husband Tom was trying to help Dohrn become a member of the bar.

Dohrn and Ayers surfaced from the underground and turned themselves into the authorities in the early 1980s. Charges against Ayers were dropped and Dohrn entered into a plea bargain that allowed her to avoid jail time.

But later she was jailed for six months for her refusal to testify in front of a grand jury about her possible role in providing false identity cards to several former Weather Underground comrades who participated in a bank robbery where two police officers and a security guard were killed.

Mrs. Ayers told Hulton that she and her husband had been in contact with their son Bill and Bernardine while they were underground using “code” to communicate. “They had ‘ways to communicate’ she told me,” Hulton said. Hulton encountered Dohrn three or four times during his time as the Ayers’ letter carrier because he had to confirm that she lived there and secure her signature for certified mail deliveries to her at the Glen Ellyn home. Hulton said Dohrn was never friendly with him but rather “was a sourpuss, she never smiled.”

Hulton had one encounter with Tom Ayers who politely asked Hulton about his work. Hulton said he told Ayers that he thought there were problems with the senior management of the Post Office and that he wasn’t always happy about the work habits of some of his fellow workers. “You know, ordinary gripes about work,” Hulton recalls. “I couldn’t believe how he responded. He started to go on about workers having to struggle to survive and about peasants and the proletariat. It made me think later that he might be a Marxist!”*

*Mr. Hulton contacted King Harvest on September 27, 2009 to indicate that his original recollection of the conversation with Tom Ayers relayed to King Harvest was inaccurate. Mr. Hulton states that instead of the words “peasants and proletariat” Tom Ayers referred to “the the struggle between the common man and those with the means or power” in society.


17 posted on 05/02/2010 8:28:25 AM PDT by Enchante (Obama and Brennan think that 20% of terrorists re-joining the battle is just fine with them)
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To: Diogenesis

This is the ONLY thing that Pres_ _ent Obama does not
flip flop on. He supports anyone who bombed the Pentagon.


+1


18 posted on 05/02/2010 8:31:34 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: libstripper

I have a similar theory....I believe Toot introduced the little commie to Ayres when he and Toot traveled across America in a bus. Chicago was on their list of stops.


19 posted on 05/02/2010 8:32:18 AM PDT by Shade_Trees_56
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To: Enchante; RaceBannon

This is at least the second time someone has reported a young Obama saying he intended to become President.

“Mr. Hulton recalls that he probably asked what Mr. Obama was studying in school and at one point Mr. Obama said that he intended to become President of the United States. Mr. Hulton said he was “taken aback” by the statement but recalls that he did not think Mr. Obama was “arrogant, but just self assured and a person with a lot of self confidence.” “It was not said with hubris,” Hulton recalled, “but with an air of self-assuredness.”


20 posted on 05/02/2010 8:35:33 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: libstripper; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; ...

ping


21 posted on 05/02/2010 8:36:09 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 465 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: libstripper

I remember reading about the mailman a long time ago. Why is it being touted as new? Of course, it’s always good to rehash the usurper’s lies.


22 posted on 05/02/2010 8:50:34 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: null and void

Thanks for the ping.


23 posted on 05/02/2010 9:00:55 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("In DC, it's about politics. In Arizona, it's about survival." -- Ralph Peters)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I agree.


24 posted on 05/02/2010 9:02:55 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: libstripper; browardchad; mlo; patriot preacher; howkn; Hostage; parsifal; El Sordo; lucysmom; ...

Thanks to all you dedicated Freepers and other vigilant Americans, the pieces of the criminal Obama puzzle are becoming known. I am grateful to you.

Obviously he’s a marxist. Obviously his advisors are marxist, and those who troll for him on conservative websites.

But something is really bothering me. When have these marxists ever taken a good look at their ideology? When have they ever presented a justified explanation for marxism, even to themselves?

Now if there are any trolls out there, any who might run across this post by pure coincidence—I think the troll game is pretty much fizzled out. You people have no credibility, even among those who still think you’re conservative (if this doesn’t apply to you, just let it go.) My challenge to you people is: just show me, even with a little hint, that you have at least a minimal grasp of the alleged benefits of socialism.

Whatever your answer is, and whether or not you provide it openly, I am confident it will require a correction from someone who actually does understand socialism.

“How do you tell a communist? Well, it’s someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It’s someone who understands Marx and Lenin.” (quote by Ronald Reagan)


25 posted on 05/02/2010 9:09:12 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Show me one example where the results of Democrat policy are not the opposite of what they promise.)
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To: All

And don’t answer with sarcasm, which in this case would be a veiled surrender and an admission that socialism is for fools from top to bottom.


26 posted on 05/02/2010 9:17:26 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Show me one example where the results of Democrat policy are not the opposite of what they promise.)
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To: Enchante
Thanks for posting this earlier article. I don't remember if it was this one or another one but I knew I had read about the letter carrier some time ago.

Hulton agreed that it was an exceptional event to encounter a black man on his route and that Obama may have felt it prudent to introduce himself to the letter carrier before approaching the Ayers house

In the early 70's, a black family was going to buy a house in our middle class white neighborhood and the father, a doctor, went around asking the neighbors if it was ok if they moved in. We thought it strange and that we had moved beyond much of the racial thing even in Texas. It's hard to believe that in Chicago in the '80s this was still happening but whatever. Maybe it was more of Hussein being so full of himself that he had to introduce himself to mail carriers.

Mr. Obama said that he intended to become President of the United States.

The machine was in motion a long, long time ago.

27 posted on 05/02/2010 9:19:43 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: reasonisfaith
You people have no credibility, even among those who still think you’re conservative (if this doesn’t apply to you, just let it go.)

If you want me to "let it go," then stop pinging me to your comments accusing me of being a shill for Obama. I loathe the communist SOB.

28 posted on 05/02/2010 9:25:10 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: null and void
This criminal president thing is getting ridiculous.


29 posted on 05/02/2010 9:36:31 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Double your income... Fire the government)
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To: Kanzan
Has anyone else noticed that the mistress story appears on the fringes whenever questions about 0bama’s carefully hidden life arise?

Those 60's radicals were known to sleep with both sexes frequently. Wouldn't want to discriminate you know.

30 posted on 05/02/2010 9:37:23 AM PDT by AmusedBystander (Obamunists want to tear down our shining city upon a hill and open a community center in "da hood".)
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To: Kanzan

Yep!


31 posted on 05/02/2010 9:40:31 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Beckwith; libstripper
When Obama was at Columbia, Ayers was at Bank Street College (BSC), where he received an M.A. in Early Childhood Education — 371 yards down the street.

What sort of M.A. degree is "Early Childhood Education"???

32 posted on 05/02/2010 9:54:34 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: libstripper

Here’s another connection: Valerie Jarrett’s Mother - lifelong friends with the Ayers family -
http://barracknow.blogspot.com/2009/09/frank-marshall-davis-jarretts-and-ayers.html

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2418

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_108950.html
(Connects WeatherUnderground to Soviets)

http://bellalu0.wordpress.com/2008/10/08/william-ayers-and-bernadine-dohrn-digging-a-little-deeper-and-who-is-chesa-boudin/

Ayers to Chavez thru Chesa Boudin
http://www.eviltwinbooking.com/events.cfm?view=Speakers&artist_id=159

http://theliberalheretic.com/blog/node/893

http://zombietime.com/obama_and_the_weather_underground/


33 posted on 05/02/2010 10:19:25 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Beckwith; All

http://www.oxy.edu/x8270.xml
It was at Occidental where he stopped being called “Barry” and became Barack Obama, Newsweek pointed out in its account of Obama’s formative years that featured his black-and-white freshman photo on the cover. “It was when I made a conscious decision: I want to grow up,” he told the magazine.

Found it!

http://zombietime.com/obama_and_the_weather_underground/
Barack Obama’s
Close Encounter with the
Weather Underground

Did the presidential candidate and the revolutionary terror group cross paths at a violent 1981 anti-Apartheid protest?

Black Student Organization - Coalition for a Free South Africa active at Columbia in 1981.


34 posted on 05/02/2010 10:43:33 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: libstripper; Tex-Con-Man
"When you have as many areas of your life deliberately obscured as Obama does, there is always the chance of being caught in a major lie." ( Thomas Lifson)

The leader of a foreign occupying force would deliberately obscure his life.

Rush Limbaugh read the essay, " A Stranger in our Midst" on Friday afternoon. Personally, I think this was one of Rush's finest hours, and possibly will even be recorded as historic.

The point of the essay, "A Stranger in our Midst",( and Rush's point as well) is that Obama does not act like an American! Obama and his communist minions( which includes Bill Ayers) act like an occupying foreign regime! Rush himself said that this is why he uses the word "regime" when referring to the Obama administration.

The following is from that essay that Rush read:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2504757/posts/p>

"This disquiet was a slow realization. Awareness began with Obama's odd pre-presidency associations, decades of being oblivious to Rev. Wright's anti-American ranting, his enduring friendship with the terrorist guy-in-the-neighborhood Bill Ayers, and the Saul Alinsky-flavored anti-capitalist community activism. Further add a hazy personal background -- an Indonesian childhood, shifting official names, and a paperless-trail climb through elite educational institutions. "

A normal, true-blue, red-blooded, "Born in the U.S.A. ( as Springstein would say) does **NOT** have a hazy personal background, or a paperless birth record, paperless childhood, paperless shifting names, paperless foreign travel, or paperless education record.

A **normal** American would immediately be honored to release these common documents related to birth, childhood, college admission and attendance, as well as passport travel.

Thomas Lifson in this thread's essay points out that Obama has gone to considerable efforts to obscure his life. Well! Gee! That's exactly what we would expect from a communist foreign occupying force.

After auditioning countless political terms, I finally realized that the Obama administration and its congressional collaborators almost resemble a foreign occupying force, a coterie of politically and culturally non-indigenous leaders whose rule contravenes local values rooted in our national tradition. It is as if the United States has been occupied by a foreign power, and this transcends policy objections. It is not about Obama's birthplace. It is not about race, either; millions of white Americans have had black mayors and black governors, and this unease about out-of-synch values never surfaced.

Yep! The Obama "regime" feels like a foreign occupying force!

While the author of "A Stranger in our Midst" claims that it is not about birth place, of course it is! If he were writing about a **normal** American president, the two words "birth and place" would have never been a glimmer of a thought in the author's mind.

If the author of a "Stranger in our Midst",Robert Weissberg , were writing about any other American president, he would have absolutely no reason to mention "birth place". Why?

Answer: Because the birth place ( and natural born status) of every other American president was absolutely **self-evident**!! The personal background of other president ( and most real Americans) is CLEAR, not "hazy" or "deliberately obscured". For **normal** Americans armies of witnesses stand ready to proudly testify that they know the parents, visited the new baby and mom in the hospital or at home, attended the christening, and watched the child grow to maturity, knew the man or woman as a school friend or boyfriend or girlfriend, was proud to be a co-worker or collaborator on a project. NORMAL Americans do not have friends that have tried to kill police or blow up the Pentagon!.

This president and his minions feel like a foreign occupying force! Lifton uses the expression a "deliberately obscured" life, and focuses on Bill Ayers, but "birth place","hazy personal background", and deliberately confused relationships with people like Ayers, are only three of many factors that add to our feelings of disquiet and unease concerning Obama. Why?

Because a normal American would be HONORED to prove with all of the best evidence that he was a natural born citizen. A normal American is proud of his friends. A normal American has a clear, open, and transparent "personal background", that can be fully documented with certified paper. A NORMAL American does not have friends that are TERRORISTS like Bill Ayers!

A foreign usurper who does not understand the American culture would go to great lengths to keep his origins hidden.

When Thomas Lifson states in this essay on this thread states,

"When you have as many areas of your life deliberately obscured as Obama does, there is always the chance of being caught in a major lie.", ...Well!...Of course there is a chance Obama is lying! That is what a leader of a foreign communist occupying force would do! The essay "Stranger in our Midst" helps us to understand why we are not dealing with a normal American.

The obvious next question is: "Is is possible that Obama is not even an American at all?"

35 posted on 05/02/2010 10:56:21 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: nolongerademocrat

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2008/10/why-obamas-colu.html

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:mxc7dIOGZX0J:africanactivist.msu.edu/organization.php%3Fname%3DColumbia%2520Coalition%2520for%2520a%2520Free%2520South%2520Africa+coalition+for+a+free+south+africa&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

David Gilbert blogging from prison
http://www.prisonactivist.org/archive/pps+pows/davidgilbert/sds-wuo.html

Black Student Organization
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Developing+their+minds+without+losing+their+soul:+black+and+Latino...-a0203022047


36 posted on 05/02/2010 10:56:24 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Beckwith

Yes.

I’ve long assumed that Obama and Ayers knew each other in New York during the Columbia years. (Not that we know much about that.)

The story about the mailman that is referenced in the American Thinker article is not new. It’s been floating around for a while.


37 posted on 05/02/2010 11:19:26 AM PDT by Jedidah (Character, courage, common sense are more important than issues.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

“You people have no credibility, even among those who still think you’re conservative (if this doesn’t apply to you, just let it go.)

If you want me to “let it go,” then stop pinging me to your comments accusing me of being a shill for Obama.”

Well darn, Buckeye, you responded and now he knows you’re a socialist. Such is the logic of reasonisfaith.


38 posted on 05/02/2010 11:44:37 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom
Well darn, Buckeye, you responded and now he knows you’re a socialist.

Yep. Silly me. I should know better. But what about you? You responded to me. So doesn't that make you an indirect socialist?

39 posted on 05/02/2010 11:49:40 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: libstripper
The First Time I Heard of Barack.

According to this the Soviets knew of it and had a hand in it long ago.

40 posted on 05/02/2010 12:27:50 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping List-freepmail me to be included or removed. <{{{><)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Oh wow. I didn’t think of that.


41 posted on 05/02/2010 12:43:28 PM PDT by lucysmom
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To: nolongerademocrat

And there was a lot of Black Panther activity in that neighborhood during this period.

From a post by FReeper Gemsbok:

In 1981, former Weather Underground members along with a few former Black Panthers are arrested in association with the robbery of a Brinks armored truck 20 miles north of Manhattan. A guard is killed and the driver is wounded. $1.6 million is recovered.

One of the Weather Underground members arrested for the Brinks crime is Kathy Boudin. She is sentenced to 20 years-to-life. Boudin leaves behind a child, Chesa Boudin, who ends up being raised by Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn while her mother lives in prison.

One of the former Black Panthers arrested in connection with the Brinks robbery is Nathaniel Burns, a member of the Black Liberation Army. Burns is also known as Sekou Odinga. Burns/Odinga is sentenced to 25 years-to-life for attempted murder of a police officer. (ODINGA, sound familiar?)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2100019/posts?page=11#11


42 posted on 05/02/2010 1:23:36 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: libstripper; LucyT
Ayers/Dohrn and Obama first met at least 5 years before the suggested year of 1988 in New York City, when they were living within 8 blocks of each other. At the time, Dohrn was in the business of creating fake IDs.
43 posted on 05/02/2010 1:58:17 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Beckwith

Yeah it does. Odinga - what are the odds? BO is the worst thing to ever happen to this country. I just can’t understand why our intelligence agencies allowed his election - surely they knew all this about his past. Why didn’t they stop this ?

I mean think about it - Khadaffi financed Odinga’s campaign in Kenya.

Saddam Hussein’s bagman Auchi provided the cash for Obama’s house.

A Saudi Prince paid for him to go to Harvard.

It is unbelievable that they did nothing to stop this from happening.


44 posted on 05/02/2010 2:04:25 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: libstripper

Barry has said a number of times that while attending Columbia University he attended Socialist organization meetings at Cooper Union. I can’t imagine that Bill Ayers did not have a prominent role in the festivities. Not hard to see why Columbia has buried any and all records of Barry’s time at the University. While we have nutjobs, much like Bill Ayers planting bombs in Times Square this week I’m sure the press is working overtime to cover up Barry’s deep connections with Domestic Terrorist Bill Ayers.


45 posted on 05/02/2010 2:11:30 PM PDT by purplelobster
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To: reasonisfaith

Sorry Reason:

Did I post to this thread? I don’t remember if I did...? Hmmm... I’m certainly not a Marxist troll! lol Sorry if I got on the wrong list somewhere!

Blessings!


46 posted on 05/02/2010 2:53:14 PM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: Enchante; null and void

thanks for posting that, a very important link to the saga, he virtually told the postman the same thing that the Russian woman told Tom Fife in 1992.

http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/the-first-time-i-heard-of-barack-by-tom-fife/#more-4557


47 posted on 05/02/2010 4:12:17 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: bitt; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

Thanks bitt.


48 posted on 05/02/2010 5:11:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Brown Deer; onyx; grey_whiskers; Velveeta; Natural Born 54; Fred Nerks; null and void; ...
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Ayers/Dohrn and Obama first met at least 5 years before the suggested year of 1988 in New York City, when they were living within 8 blocks of each other. At the time, Dohrn was in the business of creating fake IDs.

[Thanks, Brown Deer.]

49 posted on 05/02/2010 5:24:51 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

Fake ID’s eh??

Hmmmm.....


50 posted on 05/02/2010 5:45:20 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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