Dobson: GOP misled me on Rand Paul

Politico ^ | 05/03/2010 | Josh Kraushaar

[Minus_The_Bear]

There isn't one. I am against Grayson. Period. bailing out banks and corporations is completely immoral. Grayson is for bailouts and I cannot support that.

I am Pro-Life, for school choice, and defense.

[ansel12]

Grayson gets worse every week, but as you can see on this thread, some people will go to great lengths to see him in office.

[John D]

But I do know his father’s stance. While I do not support Ron Paul on many issues, I do know that his pro-life record is among the best of any politican in the nation.

Then why did he insist an underage girl be allowed to cross state lines in order to get an abortion?

[John D]

The only support that Trey Grayson has is the pro abortion crowd.

While I am against abortion, I am much more concerned about the security of our nation. Anybody who apologizes for terrorists has NO business representing ANY American in the senate.

[John D]

Do whatever you want, troll. I can’t stop you.

ansel12 and I disagree much of the time, but he is no troll.

[ansel12]

Kentucky conservatives of all stripes prefer Rand Paul to Trey Grayson.

[EternalVigilance]

He’s been trolling threads I’ve been on for months. As long as he acts like one I’ll call him one.

[ansel12]

He’s been trolling threads I’ve been on for months. As long as he acts like one I’ll call him one.

EV, you truly fit the definition of a troll.

You are so imperious that anyone that challenges your view is attacked viciously, personally, and constantly, it is how you think to avoid defending your positions.

This attitude you have that freepers are stalking you because you bump into them every few weeks is probably more aggression tactics than paranoia, but either way it is a lie.

You do not own the Kentucky Senate race, many of us are interested in it. You are throwing all your efforts into sweeping aside Trey Grayson's opponent, yet you will not explain why you think that Grayson is the better man, why is it better for Rand Paul to lose the seat to Grayson?

[yongin]

Trey Grayson thought he could get some positive press with Harold Rogers endorsing him. The Rogers endorsement will be buried under the news of James Dobson withdrawing his suppoort of Grayson. Dr. Dobson is now supporting Rand Paul. Dobson says Mitch McConnell lied to him about Rand Paul’s record on abortion. This news gives grass roots conservatives even more reasons not to trust the GOP establishment.

[EternalVigilance]

You’re the most dishonest poster I’ve seen since Howlin left the site.

[ansel12]

That is another lie, I notice that you don’t post the lie, you just add that mantra to your constant personal attacks.

You want Rand Paul to lose the primary in two weeks to Trey Grayson, why do you see that as the better outcome?

[takenoprisoner]

Sounds great. Until you get past the deception and realize that he and his father are pro-choice for states, and that the amendments and legislation they propose contain no requirement that the states do their sworn duty under the Fifth and the Fourteenth Amendments and protect the unalienable right to life of every innocent person in this country.

I think their point is to allow the individual states to decide the issue. Since the fed has already made it's decision.

[takenoprisoner]

Warning: the following might cause dizziness and/or high anxiety.

“Abortion on demand is the ultimate State tyranny; the State simply declares that certain classes of human beings are not persons, and therefore not entitled to the protection of the law.” Ron Paul

You might consider the following books by Dr. Paul.
“Abortion and Liberty” (it’s free online) and “Challenge to Liberty: Coming to Grips with the Abortion Issue.”

[EternalVigilance]

The States have an obligation under God's law, the Natural Law, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution of the United States, and under their own constitutions, to stop the killing of all innocent persons immediately,completely, and forever.

But this is not "either/or." It is "all of the above."

Every officer of American government, in every branch and at every level, has a sworn duty before God to fulfill their oaths and to protect all innocent human life within their jurisdiction. That is their raison d'être.

That principle is the cornerstone of American republican governance.

[takenoprisoner]

Exactly, but they don’t. Not the fed, nor the states. The states have bowed to the fed on the issue. Why?

If the Paul’s are working to change this, what’s the problem?

[EternalVigilance]

"[T]he federal government has no authority whatsoever to involve itself in the abortion issue. So while Roe v. Wade is invalid, a federal law banning abortion across all 50 states would be equally invalid." --Ron Paul, from his own website

[EternalVigilance]

The states have bowed to the fed on the issue. Why?

Because the leaders of the Republican Party have all become a bunch of panty-waisted judicial supremacists.

And they love to hide behind Ron Paul's phony ideology. It assures that they will never have to lift a finger to stop the killing.

[takenoprisoner]

“[T]he federal government has no authority whatsoever to involve itself in the abortion issue. So while Roe v. Wade is invalid, a federal law banning abortion across all 50 states would be equally invalid.” —Ron Paul, from his own website”

Ok, Ron Paul is extremely opposed to abortion,. So what’s the problem?

[takenoprisoner]

Because the leaders of the Republican Party have all become a bunch of panty-waisted judicial supremacists.
And they love to hide behind Ron Paul's phony ideology. It assures that they will never have to lift a finger to stop the killing.

Perhaps this has been a long day for you. Get some rest my FRiend. The exchanges have been informing.

[EternalVigilance]

Ok, Ron Paul is extremely opposed to abortion,. So what’s the problem?

The problem is that his ideology destroys the premise of American self-government.