VANITY - Census workers

grunthor | 11 may 2010 | grunthor

[Grunthor]

Ok so I filled out my census form with the constitutionally required information (how many people live here) and sent it in. Still, I have had two different census workers show up here telling me that it is my duty to complete the form and that it is their duty to "help me" do that. Both incidents have been polite on either side however I realize that eventually the time will come when they will stop being polite.

Last night the census worker was asking for our names. I was sorely tempted to give them made up names but I understand falsifying that document might be a crime so I just smiled and repeated (to her consternation) that 3 people live here.

After I repeated the same line the third time in reponse to her pleadings, she got the point (must be a liberal) and left with the admonition that they will be back one more time.

I said, "One more time and then no more? Promise?"

Has anyone else had any issues with these people yet?

[elpinta]

I am waiting for them to show up, as I answered the same way.
They will get this handout:

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I hereby rebut your Title 13, Section 141 presumption of authority for personal information collection for Census 2010, due to the following apparent Title 13 violations:
• §6(c) restrictions on process;
• §195 restrictions on Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3 & Amendment 14, Section 2 process;
• §241 failure of request process;
• §301(a), §303 & §307 lack of authorization to collect information;
• §302 lack of authorization for Chapter 5 or Chapter 7 implementing regulations;
• And, your apparent personal violation of Chapter 1, Subchapter II, §23(c) restrictions on presumptions of Chapter 9 authority.
• THEREFORE: I hereby retain all of my rights and privileges under the 4th and 5th Amendments, and respectfully decline to respond to any questions.

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[rarestia]

Had a moderately illiterate woman show up at my door. She spoke like her tongue was numb (like she’d been doing coke all day). I told her that I already submitted the form and that there are two people living in the home.

She pressed me much the same way and actually got a little snippy with me. I didn’t give her the pleasure of an argument and said the same thing as you, “There are 2 people in this home” over and over again.

[bcsco]

I only filled out the number of residents, our age and race. Period. Haven’t had a visit yet, but did get a follow-up mailing because I hadn’t sent in the form by April 1st (more like the middle of April). That’s it so far.

I’m looking forward to a visit, should that occur. I’ll show them the ‘No Solicitation’ sign on my door (provided by the city, and covers city regulations), and tell them that the federal government isn’t excluded from that IMO.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

I entered a single number “2” for the number of people at this address and mailed it back. That fulfills my requirement under the law.

[saganite]

Those are just folks hired as temps. I’m sure they are just doing the follow up work in accordance with their short term contract. You shouldn’t worry until they show up with thr SWAT team and the CEA (census enforcement agency) agents.;^)

[ninergold3]

All I put on mine was that four Americans lived at this address. . .

[elpinta]

Exactly what I wrote, the rest is either a matter of public record, or private information.

[cripplecreek]

Chris Walken shows the way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XtuPvwBa2U

[Manic_Episode]

BM

[kevkrom]

We misplaced our form in a bout of spring cleaning, and so Mrs. kevkrom was subject to a personal visit a little while back. Despite the fact that she does tend to be a liberal, I must be a good influence on her, as she provided only the number of people and dates of birth. (I wouldn’t have provided birthdays, but she still did a good job nonetheless.)

[musicman]

ping

[benewton]

They asked the number of residents as of 4/1/10.

Since I sent it back in the middle of March, I pointed out that my crystal ball was cloudy...

But this is NH, with a primarily conservative white population, so I doubt that they’ll show up on the front porch.

[Grunthor]

One of my two favorite actors.

[KarlInOhio]

I only filled out the number of residents, our age and race.

The racial question is the one I will not fill out. I go out of my way to not answer racial questions, even to the point of making people throw out forms which they have already check off my race and tell them to do it again without that information. I want to blind the beast of government to racial information to make it harder for them to do any racial hijinks.

[dead]

Both incidents have been polite on either side however I realize that eventually the time will come when they will stop being polite.

Ten years ago, I got the long form and sent it back with only the number of people in my home.

First some old guy started calling. Then he tried to invite himself over. I told him I wouldn't open the door. He tried cajoling. Then he tried vague threats of legal trouble. Then he gave up.

Don't worry about them. They have a list of tactics they have to run through to earn their check. They don't really care, they just want to get paid.

[ConservativeWarrior]

I “never received” any of the three census mailings I hear other people got.

Sure enough, 2 Saturdays ago, the census guy showed up. I didn’t invite him in, I came out and we spoke on the front porch. He was polite, handed me the bilingual “guide,” then proceeded to ask his questions, filling out a form on his clipboard.

“Is this your primary residence, or a vacation home?” Primary.

“How many people living here?” 5

“What is the first persons date of birth?” Ages are 36, 35, 14, 12, 11.

“What are their dates of birth?” Ages are 36, 35..

“I need dates of birth.” You’re only going to get ages. In fact, you’ve already been given all the information I will provide.

“Race of first person?” I’m not going to answer that or any other question. I’ve given you all you’re going to get.

“I’ll put caucasion.” Put whatever you like, but I didn’t supply the answer, you’re making the decisions on your own from here on out.

“You aren’t going to answer any more questions?” No. The law only requires I provide number of individuals and ages. That’s all I’m providing. It’s nothing personal.

“No, I don’t take it personally. Some people have decided to make a point, for personal, or political, or whatever reasons. That’s fine. You’re actually more polite than most.”

“Anyone of hispanic origin living here?” I’ve given you all the information you’re going to get.

“Have a good day.” You do the same.

[HamiltonJay]

Nope, haven’t had one show up yet... I fill in number of people in my home and thats it, as I have my entire life, if they do show up I will tell them politely to not come back... I will not answer any other questions.

[RedMDer]

We replied in writing that 2 people live here.

A census worker came to the door last week. I told her that we already replied and to have a nice day before closing the door.

[ErnBatavia]

Dates of birth are exactly what we left off.....another arrow in somebody’s identity theft quiver.