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Cinco to Midnight: The Great Mexican End Game
American Thinker ^ | May 14, 2010 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 05/13/2010 10:47:36 PM PDT by neverdem

Recently, columnist Charles Krauthammer expressed support for amnesty for illegals, while Newt Gingrich advocated a path to what he called "legality." The two men stipulated that border control must come first, but, still, what makes two conservatives such weak sisters on this issue?  Perhaps part of the answer was provided by Dick Morris, who said that immigration is a losing issue for Republicans.

Morris is no pillar of principle, but he knows political trends.  What's his reasoning?  Over the short term, a hard-line immigration stance benefits many politicians; as for the long term, however, there's something called demographic change.

Hispanics are most rapidly growing group in the nation.  In fact, if current immigration and birthrate trends continue, Hispanics will become America's largest ethnic group during the next century. Fifteen percent of the population already, they're poised to become twenty-nine percent by 2050.

This is relevant because, while many rationalize away the reality, a majority of Hispanics oppose tighter border control. For example, one survey showed that 81 percent of Latinos in Arizona oppose their state's new immigration law, with 70 percent registering strong disapproval.

Because of this, many have warned Republicans against "alienating" this burgeoning voting bloc. For instance, Simon Rosenberg, the head of a group that studies such matters, said, "If the Republicans don't make their peace with Hispanic voters, they're not going to win presidential elections anymore. The math just isn't there." 

Unfortunately, the common sense just isn't there, either. That is, while Republicans recognize this electoral reality, they don't seem to ask (honestly) what's necessary to avoid this alienation. Because if they did, they'd realize that the new immigrants' affinity for liberalism goes far beyond a love for porous borders.

Question: If we imported millions of Scandinavians  --  who have created the most liberal governments on Earth -- would we expect them to magically change their ideology upon seeing American terra firma?  If not, why would we expect otherwise with south-of-the-border socialists?  If they choose Hugo Chavez and Evo Morales types below the Rio Grande, why wouldn't they above it?  Geography doesn't change ideology.

Despite this, many Republicans claim they can "reach out" to Hispanic voters and woo them.  This is fantasy.  Today's immigrants, most of whom are Hispanic, vote Democrat approximately 70 to 80 percent of the time (Bush did better, but, surprise, surprise, he favored amnesty for illegals), and this won't change.  Oh, there is one way woo them: Adopt Democrat policies across-the-board (you can remain pro-life and against faux marriage) -- favoring socialist measures and big government. 

This is, of course, why leftist politicians love unfettered immigration so much: They are importing their voters -- socialist voters.

Now, some claim that, since socialism is quintessentially un-American, time, prosperity and acculturation will purge it from new populations.  This is also fantasy.  Would you expect this with the Scandinavians?  As for prosperity, upper classes were more likely to vote for Barack Obama than lower ones.  And acculturation?  The pressure today is not to assimilate but, owing to multiculturalism, to cling to your ethnicity.

The symptoms of this abound.  We have seen new arrivals protest in the streets wielding signs stating "Gringo Go Home" and the shocking video of California teacher Ron Gochez calling for a Mexican communist revolt in the U.S.  Then there was the recent incident in which a girl was told that her drawing of an American Flag was offensive, and another where students were punished for wearing American-flag clothing.  And both of these travesties were the handiwork of a teacher or administrator who reflects the anti-Americanism now permeating the establishment.

It also, sadly, reflects many on the ground.  For instance, commenting on the second incident, student Annicia Nunez, opined, "I think they [the flag-clothing wearers] should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day.  We don't deserve to be get [sic] disrespected like that.  We wouldn't do that on Fourth of July."  Like many, this girl draws an equivalence between American and foreign holidays.  Don't ask if she considers herself American.  The only question is if she views herself as Mexican or shows some deference to hyphenation.

And we have become a hyphened nation, less capable than ever of assimilating immigrants.  Yet we now have more than ever to assimilate.  While we admitted only around 250,000 immigrants annually during most of our history, that number has ballooned to approximately 1 million (85 percent of whom hail from the Third World and Asia).  To paraphrase columnist Frosty Wooldridge, the rate of immigration long ago exceeded the rate of assimilation.

Then there is an even more troubling factor: the consequences of taking in so many immigrants from just one country.    

In a relatively recent phenomenon, approximately 50 percent of legal immigrants have been coming from Mexico.  And about 67 percent of American Hispanics have origins in that nation; this amounts to, including illegals, a population of approximately 20 to 30 million -- about 20 percent of Mexico's population.  What are the consequences of such an unbalanced immigration policy?  University of Edinburgh professor Stephen Tierney explains them very well in his book Multiculturalism and the Canadian Constitution, writing:

In a situation in which immigrants are divided into many different groups originating in distant countries, there is no feasible prospect of any particular immigrant group's challenging the hegemony of the national language [press one for English, folks?] and institutions.  These groups may form an alliance among themselves to fight for better treatment and accommodations, but such an alliance can only be developed within the language and institutions of the host society and, hence, is integrative.  In situations in which a single dominant immigrant group originates in a neighbouring country, the dynamics may be very different.  The Arabs in Spain, and Mexicans in the United States, do not need allies among other immigrant groups.  One could imagine claims for Arabic or Spanish to be declared a second official language, at least in regions where they are concentrated, and these immigrants could seek support from their neighbouring home country for such claims - in effect, establishing a kind of transnational extension of their original homeland in their new neighbouring country of residence.

Note that parts of the U.S. are already so heavily Mexican that their residents perceive no need to assimilate.  Also note that these immigrants have in fact received support from Mexico, as its government has interfered in our domestic affairs and demanded they be accommodated.

Professor Tierney goes on to write, "This fear [of cultural genocide] is often compounded in situations where the immigrant group has historic claims against the receiving country . . . .  For example, in the Mexican-United States case . . . ." 

In this case . . . what?  There is just such a claim.  Sure, it's specious, but good luck convincing the Reconquistas of this.  As pundit Dr. Jack Wheeler points out here, Mexico's rulers engender hatred toward the U.S. by, among other things, placing an enormous map depicting Greater Mexico -- which includes much of our land -- near the entrance of Mexico City's Museum of National History.  Wheeler writes, "Every class of students on a field trip from their school to the museum is made to sit down and gaze up at the huge map, while the teacher explains how so much of Los Estados Unidos was stolen from Mexico and really belongs to them."  The rationale is that all the land treaties the U.S. made with European powers, such as the Louisiana Purchase, were illegal and that the regions thus obtained rightfully belong to Mexico.  States Wheeler, "Every Mexican national legally or illegally in the US is told by the Mexican government his or her allegiance is to Mexico -- not America."

Wheeler also claims that Mexico owes its independence to us, as we helped defeat its French overlords.  But belaboring the point is fruitless, as reason plays less of a role in people's decisions and behavior than many of us like to think.  You won't reason a person out of ethnic and national patriotism -- and citizenship tests certainly won't purge it from them.  Possession is nine-tenths of the law, like it or not.  The question is, who will possess the American lands in question -- and what will American culture be possessed of -- a generation or two hence?

So not all immigration is created equal, and Mexican immigration is unique.  For it is not just the migration of individuals -- it is the transplantation of a foreign nation into the body of our nation.  

This is just one reason (recently naturalized Times Square bomber types are another) I've long advocated at least a moratorium on all immigration.  The people make the country and government, not the other way around. 

Thus, a debate about immigration policy is nothing less than a discussion about what kind of nation we wish to be.  Will it be Mexico North?  Iran West?  Right now we're looking more like the Balkans. 

In fact, with a socialist voting bloc that threatens to give us a Hugo Chavez North sometime in the future -- that is, unless current trends can be reversed -- the realizing of Mexican nationalists' Aztlan dream may not be lamentable.  A partitioning of the U.S. may offer the only hope of enjoying a land where the American dream lives on.

Don't like the sound of that?  Then you'd better start reversing those trends and initiate that immigration discussion fast -- in approximately 20 years ago.  Because it's later than you think -- about cinco to midnight for America.

Contact Selwyn Duke


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: immigration; reconquistas
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1 posted on 05/13/2010 10:47:36 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Newt I expected, he is driven by polls. Why does anybody still listen to him? But Charles really disappointed me on this one. He is the brightest of the talking heads but somehow his sense of compassion leads him to give criminals a pass and make the same mistake Reagan made with Amnesty, no matter what you call it. It just opens the floodgates. The pols will fake border security again, and we forever lock ourselves into a banana republic. Right now their is a faint glimmer of hope to recover. Charles, don’t slam the door shut.


2 posted on 05/13/2010 11:04:38 PM PDT by Conservative9
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To: neverdem
Morris is no pillar of principle, but he knows political trends.

Ummm.....


3 posted on 05/13/2010 11:07:13 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: neverdem
Despite this, many Republicans claim they can "reach out" to Hispanic voters and woo them. This is fantasy.
Dubya was well recieved by hispanic voters.
4 posted on 05/13/2010 11:17:39 PM PDT by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican for Palin)
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To: neverdem

Anyone who proposes amnesty should have the decency to say if they’ve ever lived in a part of the country overrun with illegals. I moved to Los Angeles in 1973. The school system worked, was not overcrowded and the curriculum was traditional. Hospital ERs were not “free” doctors’ offices for kids with runny noses. A mix of races used city parks.

Around Los Angeles today are billboards for the Dodgers with a picture of an unsmiling Latino player. “Esta mi Cuidad!” That means, “This is my city!”


5 posted on 05/13/2010 11:29:10 PM PDT by SoCalRight
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To: neverdem

Look at the positives. It’s possible to view the immigrants as allies in the fight against liberal fascism. They have a thriving underground economy and they show little intention of joining the suckers who pay Social Security. The added strain on the socialist state is bankrupting it, and the sooner the better. They can vote Democrat all they want, once the government can no longer borrow money it won’t make any difference. The GOP can’t win, either by their pathetic pandering or by pretending to be tough on borders. Fairly or unfairly, the GOP has been indelibly stamped with the charge of racism. This may be an issue that kills off the GOP for good, which would allow for the rise of a real conservative party.


6 posted on 05/13/2010 11:36:38 PM PDT by rockhardo (Socialism creates its own hell.)
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To: Once-Ler

Perhaps that was where you stopped reading. The author wrote:

Today’s immigrants, most of whom are Hispanic, vote Democrat approximately 70 to 80 percent of the time (Bush did better, but, surprise, surprise, he favored amnesty for illegals),

The whole point is that Bush appealed to Hispanics by being a Republican light. If your solution to winning the Hispanic vote is to pander to Mexico and give amnesty, leave me out of it.


7 posted on 05/13/2010 11:42:59 PM PDT by Paladins Prayer
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To: Once-Ler
Dubya was well recieved by hispanic voters.

Of course he was. They love RINOs.

8 posted on 05/13/2010 11:44:04 PM PDT by billclintonwillrotinhell
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To: Once-Ler
Dubya was well recieved by hispanic voters.

Of course he was, he was pro-amnesty.

9 posted on 05/13/2010 11:44:20 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: Paladins Prayer; billclintonwillrotinhell; South40
Bush did better, but, surprise, surprise, he favored amnesty for illegals

Then I guess we can forget the canard that legal hispanic voters favor tougher illegal immigration enforcement.

10 posted on 05/13/2010 11:51:34 PM PDT by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican for Palin)
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To: Once-Ler
Dubya was well recieved by hispanic voters.

He spoke Spanish, had a Mexican sister in law and promised Amnesty V.2.

We need cheap energy, not low skilled labor with a chip on their shoulders, foreign allegiance and refusing to assimilate.

11 posted on 05/13/2010 11:52:53 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: rockhardo
Fairly or unfairly, the GOP has been indelibly stamped with the charge of racism. This may be an issue that kills off the GOP for good, which would allow for the rise of a real conservative party.

Conservatives have been portrayed as racists for decades, so what will that change?

12 posted on 05/13/2010 11:58:52 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Once-Ler
Then I guess we can forget the canard that legal hispanic voters favor tougher illegal immigration enforcement.

"Tougher illegal immigration enforcement", aka better border security, is not the same thing as giving citizenship to those who are already here.

13 posted on 05/13/2010 11:58:52 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: neverdem
We need cheap energy, not low skilled labor with a chip on their shoulders, foreign allegiance and refusing to assimilate.

But there is a demand for low skilled labor. You can't work at a Wallmart, Firestone, or TacoBell...you can't go to a carwash, hotel, or construction site without realizing that demand. Our population growth is slowing. Once you take away 1 million aborted babies, avoid the felons and drug addicts there isn't a huge pool of American born workers who want to clean floor and inflate the revenues of government ponzi schemes like Social Security when they can just sit on their asses and collect unemployment until congress stops extending their benefits.

14 posted on 05/14/2010 12:55:06 AM PDT by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican for Palin)
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To: Once-Ler
Dubya was well recieved by hispanic voters.

Yeah, right. He got his vote among the "Hispanics" all the way up to what, 40%? 44%?

Everywhere I go, people call that "getting your ass beat."

He did better among Central and South Americans -- he got a real split -- but Texas Mexicans, Bush or no Bush, continue to vote 70/30 Democrat, and those are the Mexicans from northern Mexico -- the ones from down south are worse, they're mostly still PRI or PRD in their thinking; and in case you've forgotten, the PRI was established back in the 1919 revolution as a Communist party.

15 posted on 05/14/2010 1:06:51 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: neverdem
>"We need cheap energy, not low skilled labor with a chip on their shoulders, foreign allegiance and refusing to assimilate. "

Are you denigrating our dear leader, and his wookie, or lainvasiona? /s

16 posted on 05/14/2010 1:13:52 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you, O you most proud, said the Lord God of hosts.)
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To: neverdem

It will come to a shooting war and mass expulsion.
Why should Whites be the only ones who can’t defend their race?
Just because some self-hating White college professors say so?
Maybe we need some intellectual cleansing first.

Sorry, prof, your tenure has been terminated.
Maybe Mexico will take you.


17 posted on 05/14/2010 1:15:38 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (NEW TAG ====> **REPEAL OR REBEL!** -- Islam Delenda Est! -- Rumble thee forth)
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To: neverdem
Today's immigrants, most of whom are Hispanic, vote Democrat approximately 70 to 80 percent of the time (Bush did better, but, surprise, surprise, he favored amnesty for illegals), and this won't change.

This is Lyndon Johnson's revenge on the white South for not supporting him, and for voting for Barry Goldwater in 1964.

He foresaw that they'd bolt the Democratic Party, which had been captured by northern liberal ethnic pols, and so he passed Ted Kennedy's immigration-reform bill to bury Texas and the South under a tidal wave of socialists who'd vote with their feet, and then vota Democratica.

LBJ was the ultimate, the very greatest Southern "scalawag". He is totally responsible for all this.

18 posted on 05/14/2010 1:17:49 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: rockhardo
Fairly or unfairly, the GOP has been indelibly stamped with the charge of racism. This may be an issue that kills off the GOP for good

There are times when such charges are an electoral advantage. (Even when they are hyperbole or demagoguery.) The massive popularity of Arizona's new immigration law within Arizona, a state with a huge Mexican population, tells us just about everything we need to know.

Events change perceptions. The definition of an "untouchable" issue changes. For instance, I remember a time when liberals ran for election as liberals.

19 posted on 05/14/2010 1:41:44 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: neverdem

In other words its not a stand on principles, its giving in to identity politics and groupthink.


20 posted on 05/14/2010 1:44:02 AM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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