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Exploring the ‘right to health care’ (Catholic Bishops have buyers remorse on Obamacare)
The Pittsburgh Catholic ^ | May 21, 2010 | Fr. James Farnan

Posted on 05/24/2010 12:52:36 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog

There has been much talk lately claiming that “social justice” is a Catholic imperative. But just as Jesus taught about justice, he also issued a warning: “Beware of wolves in sheep’s clothing” (Matthew 7:15). By this he meant that evil sometimes presents itself as a good. Undoubtedly, words like “social justice” can be deployed in very dishonest ways. It is possible that people could use such words to cloak a very wanton intent.

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Catholics are compelled by Christ’s teaching to look at things like the recent health care legislation — cloaked as it is, at least in the minds of some, in the lamb’s wool of social justice — and ask whether it is what it claims to be, or is it a wolf in sheep’s clothing?

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Catholics need to ask the important question: Is this health care reform consistent with the church’s pro-life teaching? The answer is a resounding no. The legislation allows funding for abortion and will encourage abortions in America. And sheep don’t have fangs.

President Obama made a deal with some politicians by agreeing, in return for their support, to issue an executive order regarding abortion funding after the legislation passed. But the order does not and cannot trump the legislation itself.

On this, both the National Right to Life Committee and Planned Parenthood agree. It is only more sheep’s clothing for the wolf.

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghcatholic.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; bishops; catholic; obamacare
Lengthy article objecting to the use of the term Social Justice by some Catholics to sell support for Obamacare. Largely on Pro-Life grounds. A day late and a dollar short. Should have been shouted from every pulpit every Sunday leading up to the vote.
1 posted on 05/24/2010 12:52:37 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

You have the right to pursue happiness. Period!


2 posted on 05/24/2010 12:55:58 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Buckeye McFrog; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; genetic homophobe; ...
RE :”But just as Jesus taught about justice, .... Undoubtedly, words like “social justice” can be deployed in very dishonest ways..”

I read the bible myself and I am pretty darn sure Jesus never called on the Romans to tax the Jews and Samaritans to pay for the early Christian’s health care, fish, wine or bread (and most certainly not abortions) . This Marxist Jesus social justice stuff is crap. Reverend Jim Wallace pitches this nonsense. Nor did he ask the Romans to force the Jews to let them have equal access to their Temple.

3 posted on 05/24/2010 1:10:15 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: sickoflibs

B U M P


4 posted on 05/24/2010 1:14:06 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
My question is: IF I have a "right" to health care, and that "right" is bequeathed to me by the Federal Government, then I should be able to sue the Feds if I contract cancer or have a heart attack...after all, they're guaranteeing me good health.

But I noticed there is not provision for research to find the causes of these and other diseases and eradicate them.

So, it's like I thought, it's all a scam to get votes in a quest for eternal power.

Boot'm out in November...they all suck.
5 posted on 05/24/2010 1:14:28 PM PDT by FrankR (Standing against tyranny must start somewhere, or the future belongs to the tyrants.)
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To: FrankR

Not only are they not guaranteeing you good health but you are not about to get good health care either.

But you knew that.


6 posted on 05/24/2010 1:16:02 PM PDT by Carley (WE CAN SEE NOVEMBER FROM OUR HOUSE)
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To: FrankR

It’s a lot more than giving freebies for votes.

It’s about population control by denying healthcare to people.

It’s about controlling everyone through the granting and refusing of medical care based on behavior and more - based on willingness to OBEY.


7 posted on 05/24/2010 1:17:28 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: sickoflibs
Wow! Earlier, I was ranting on another thread that I was becoming scandalized by the CINO pols who use and pervert Church teachings for their socialist/Marxist ends.

There is no "right" to health service. Well, ok, perhaps there is in the Communist Manifesto, next to the "right" to education. But, these are not "rights" under the US Constitution.

8 posted on 05/24/2010 1:24:29 PM PDT by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters, now.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Tired of fools.


9 posted on 05/24/2010 1:25:52 PM PDT by ryan71 (Let's Roll!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

bump


10 posted on 05/24/2010 1:38:49 PM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

In the early 1980s, there was a document from the ACCB concerning social justice, and mentioning the U.S. specifically.
But nothing has been written about it since then.
Now, either every problem with poverty has disappeared, or the Catholic clergy (and the church is a top-down affair in leadership) has decided that social justice is an impossible objective.
They slammed the door on liberation theology some time ago. And I think their voices concerning poverty have been significantly muted since then.


11 posted on 05/24/2010 1:56:55 PM PDT by cephalopod1 (Catholics, social justice)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

A day late and a dollar short. Should have been shouted from every pulpit every Sunday leading up to the vote.

&&&
Amen!


12 posted on 05/24/2010 2:07:53 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6



13 posted on 05/24/2010 3:33:11 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
(Catholic Bishops have buyers remorse on Obamacare)

Inaccurate editorializing on your part.

Excerpts from the article you chose not to post:

Cardinal Francis George, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, summarized the bishops’ opposition to the health care legislation in a March 23 statement:

“We as Catholic bishops have opposed its (the health care legislation) passage because there is compelling evidence that it would expand the role of the federal government in funding and facilitating abortion and plans that cover abortion.

The statute appropriates billions of dollars in new funding without explicitly prohibiting the use of these funds for abortion, and it provides federal subsidies for health plans covering elective abortions. Its failure to preserve the legal status quo that has regulated the government’s relation to abortion, as did the original bill adopted by the House of Representatives last November, could undermine what has been the law of our land for decades and threatens the consensus of the majority of Americans: that federal funds not be used for abortions or plans that cover abortions. Stranger still, the statute forces all those who choose federally subsidized plans that cover abortion to pay for other peoples’ abortions with their own funds. If this new law is intended to prevent people from being complicit in the abortions of others, it is at war with itself.”

The Kansas bishops put it this way: “The right of every individual to access health care does not necessarily suppose an obligation on the part of the government to provide it. Yet in our American culture, Catholic teaching about the ‘right’ to health care is sometimes confused with the structures of ‘entitlement.’ The teaching of the universal church has never been to suggest a government socialization of medical services. Rather, the church has asserted the rights of every individual to have access to those things most necessary for sustaining and caring for human life, while at the same time insisting on the personal responsibility of each individual to care properly for his or her own health.”

14 posted on 05/24/2010 7:03:48 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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