Yes.
Posted on 06/03/2010 1:20:34 PM PDT by Never A Dull Moment
Thursday in which it said that the results of the incident in which Israel intercepted a flotilla trying to break the naval blockade of Gaza "place us at the beginning of the Gog and Magog process where the world is against us, but which ends with the third and final redemption."
The statement explained that while secular Zionism always wants Israel to be beloved by other nations, “the legitimacy of our people is not derived from the nations of the world and their poisonous traditions, rather from the Torah of Israel which teaches us that [Israel] 'is a people that shall dwell alone, and shall not be reckoned among the nations'" (Numbers 23:9).
The council blessed the soldiers of the IDF and called for the formation of an emergency unity government that will bring about the salvation promised by G-d.
(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...
Messianic Jewish Christian Joel Rosenberg has a lot of impressive contacts and writes very wonderful and well researched non-fiction and fiction on all such issues and geopolitics.
Hey Quix!
Did you catch some of the Spiritual WARFARE in the Garden yesterday?
It was all over The chapter where Abraham suggests to G-d that maybe Ismael should be his heir, and G-d says “NO WAY!”, that the promise was for Isaac!
Such a FRACAS!
The globalist oligarchy has been busy destroying this country for a long time.
They now have their DESIGNATED DESTROYER IN CHIEF at our helm.
They are working hard to insure that the USA will abandon Israel wholesale as OThuga has almost already done.
Glad you realize it WILL BE TRUE.
I suggest you sharpen your filtering on such information.
Seems to me like you are bending over so far backwards to avoid a TYPE I ERROR that you are insuring a TYPE II ERROR.
Both are deadly in certain contexts.
THROUGHOUT SCRIPTURE . . . GOD PERSISTENTLY
STACKED THE DECK AGAINST HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE
JUST SO HE COULD SHOW
HIS GLORY IN THEIR BEHALF.
—THE RED SEA—PHAROAH AND HIS ARMY DROWNED.
—THE FOUNDING OF ISRAEL—IMPOSSIBLE BUT FOR GOD.
That little plot of land in your satellite pic . . . surrounded by enemies of great wealth, numbers and land . . . eager to destroy them off the face of the planet.
God loves to pour water on the sacrifice on the altar and to fill the ditch around the altar . . .
then to send fire from heaven that consumed the sacrifice, the water and even the stones of the altar, IIRC.
What is your assignment of the current nations to those Prophetic Scriptural mentions of the Nations to go against Israel?
Thanks for your kind words.
THANK YOU FOR DROPPING BY AND YOUR KIND REPLY.
AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!
THX THX.
God has HIS PLAN.
IT ALWAYS SUCCEEDS.
ALMOST ALWAYS AGAINST ‘IMPOSSIBLE’ ODDS!
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Where else should I be? Do you only talk to people when you agree with them?
That reminded me of this one. When I read it, I had a firm sense the contray world view Hunt and McMahon describes was already here.
The Old Paths
http://www.thebereancall.org/node/8018
"Why wouldn't the Israelites want the "good way" and "rest for their souls"? Why wouldn't they "hearken to the sound of the trumpet," i.e., want to hear what God has to say? Let me suggest one reason that could certainly apply. They were so far removed from doing things God's way that they couldn't relate to the "old paths." Furthermore, their idea of "good" was not God's good, and the "rest" they sought after was not the rest of God. Doing their own thing for their own selves for so long may have pushed God's way well beyond their interests and comprehension. This condition was not unique to ancient Israel; we also see it in the church today...."
You are right that many have made similar claims throughout history. Are you aware that many of those claims took place when there wasn't even a nation called Israel on the planet? The fact that Israel even exists is in fact a part of the end day prophesies fulfillment.
But if your crowd are right about this, shouldn't something have happened by 1988? What was all the "this generation" stuff about? Of course it's hard to believe the end-times crowd takes Matthew 24 all that seriously anyway, since it seems clear to me that Jesus was talking about the generation to whom he was speaking, i.e. his disciples and the crowd around him.
I can't predict when the end will come, but I can point to the fact that certain conditions need to align according to prophecy.
"Fact?" No. Show me one such "fact" that doesn't depend on granting your prophetic framework as a foundational assumption.
"Every eye shall seem him come in the clouds of Glory." Paraphrased. Was this possible even twenty years ago, even ten?
You think God depends on modern technology for this? Besides, what did He mean by "every eye?" How would his immediate listeners have understood what he said?
And yet, a people who should have been ready, denied him. Are you so sure you aren't doing the same thing right now?
You'll see the humor in that question once you know what I believe. Are you so sure that you aren't doing what you're asking about? Because I think you are, and I think most Christians have been doing exactly that for hundreds of years, just like the most of the Jews in the first century did to His face. His first "coming" was not what the Jews of that time expected, and His second coming was not what you think it was to be.
Because the prophecies addressing Gog and Megog are total hogwash?
Not at all - it's because I think they're true, and have been fulfilled.
I would be the last one to ask you to take what I say as the Gospel, but I do think you need to ask yourself what the Gospel is, and consider these matters for yourself. And what does it harm folks, to discuss these matters at times like this? Is our salvation and what we believe something we shouldn't discuss on this forum in time of global upheavel?
I've spent a great deal of time considering these matters over the last couple of decades. I don't have a problem with discussing it; I just think putting it in Breaking News was a little silly. Apparently the mods eventually agreed.
I say this as a person who finds the prayer threads here almost intolerable, as I find prayer to be an individual or physically present group participation endeavor.
I'm with you on that one, though I don't begrudge them to people who find it meaningful, I guess.
So I'm not exactly the run out and go rah rah rah, ree ree ree, every time folks turn to God on this forum. I still believe in Him, the God of Abraham. I try to listen when things pertaining to Him come up.
That's mostly the approach I try to take, although obviously you and I have some different theological perspectives.
See if this is to your liking. It may be too much.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2527172/posts?page=143#143
That's the problem - too many Christians spend too much time waiting around. There's work to do.
Sure.
Who, for example was the Antichrist? And it can't be someone like Nero, who committed suicide, because God tells us that Jesus Christ will personally throws the Antichrist and the False Prophet into the lake of fire at the end of te Tribulation. I've tried and tried to get the name of the guy who confirmed a seven year peace contract between Israel and the nations in 70 AD and then compelled everyone on the face of the earth to take a mark (I'm flabbergasted that they had the technology to accomplish that in 70AD!) but nobody seems to know.
I can't address these specifics because you're asking the wrong questions. Your expectations for fulfillment are based on your assumptions as to the nature of the prophecies. They were fulfilled, but the fulfillment didn't look like what you expect, because your underlying assumptions about the nature of the prophecies is in error.
Do you have any books I can read that details this most remarkable history of 70AD?
Here is a link to the dead-tree edition of the same book I linked earlier. Remarkable is definitely the right word.
Thanks in advance.
No problem.
Those of us who actually pay attention and take His Word seriously know what the deal is...and we are not stupid. I thank those offering encouragement and hope and words of counsel during these most interesting times!!
Blessings to you as always, Quix!!
God bless Israel!!! Prayers up for those who believe!!!
Thank you Quix, and more than that I shouldn’t expect.
You take care.
Quix, it’s common courtesy here to ping people when you’re talking about them. Otherwise how am I to learn that I’m exceedingly haughty and arrogant toward Christians unless I just happen to stumble across your comment?
You obviously didn’t read my posts. I said there is much work to do and Christians are not only well capable of obeying the Great Commission, they aren’t whiners.
You see a problem so I’m not surprised to read you can’t comprehend someone waiting in anticipation while doing their assignment.
There is no problem for believers - they walk in faith and fear not.
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