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GOP bad dream: Birther on ticket
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Posted on 06/07/2010 1:46:02 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

GOP bad dream: Birther on ticket By: Kasie Hunt June 7, 2010 03:53 PM EDT

California Republicans optimistic about their prospects in November could find themselves with a bit of a problem after the votes are counted in Tuesday’s primaries - a statewide ticket with the so-called “Birther Queen” as one of their candidates.

Orly Taitz is an Israeli émigré who has spent the last two years filing lawsuits challenging President Barack Obama’s right to be president on the grounds that he was born in Kenya. In the process, she has earned herself $20,000 in court fines.

Now she’s running for the GOP nomination for secretary of state, and with her establishment-backed primary opponent mounting a less-than-stellar campaign against her, operatives say there’s a chance she could win.

“It’d be a disaster for the Republican party,” says James Lacy, a conservative GOP operative in the state. “ Can you imagine if [gubernatorial candidate] Meg Whitman and [candidate for Lt. Gov.] Abel Maldonado—both of whom might have a chance to win in November—had to run with Orly Taitz as secretary of state, who would make her cockamamie issues about Obama’s birth certificate problems at the forefront of her activities?”

“There is no Republican candidate for statewide office that would be willing to have her campaign with them,” says Adam Probolsky, a spokesman for the Orange County Republican Party.

(Excerpt) Read more at dyn.politico.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: birther; birthers; ca2010; certifigate; damondunn; maldonado; naturalborncitizen; orlytaitz; politico4obama; politico4romney; politicoantibirther; taitz; unnaturalcitizenry
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1 posted on 06/07/2010 1:46:02 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Let the people decide, not some cabal of elitists.


2 posted on 06/07/2010 1:47:16 PM PDT by ABQHispConservative (November, here we come!)
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To: Sub-Driver

HMmm it seems the media didn’t think it was a disaster for so many Michael Moore Truthers running on Democrat tickets. I’m not a big fan of Birtherism being a central campaign issue but I think it is rather harmless compared to the 9-11 truther movement which was very much a part of the Democrat mainstream thought.


3 posted on 06/07/2010 1:49:19 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Tyranny thrives when the people are silent.)
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To: Sub-Driver

HMmm it seems the media didn’t think it was a disaster for so many Michael Moore Truthers running on Democrat tickets. I’m not a big fan of Birtherism being a central campaign issue but I think it is rather harmless compared to the 9-11 truther movement which was very much a part of the Democrat mainstream thought.


4 posted on 06/07/2010 1:49:20 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Tyranny thrives when the people are silent.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Nothing wrong with that.

She’s got my vote.

: )


5 posted on 06/07/2010 1:51:18 PM PDT by Califreak (A man is defined by the nature of his enemies-Preach it Rush!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Maybe if the GOP addressed the issue with honesty they wouldn’t be concerned.

If Obama was born in Hawaii as he claims, then what is the problem with releasing his Long Form Birth Certificate with the Doctor and the Hospital? Why is that so ScaRy?

Oh sorry. That question turns Anderson Cooper into a rabid attack dog.


6 posted on 06/07/2010 1:53:01 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: LucyT; STARWISE; onyx; Fred Nerks; little jeremiah; SunkenCiv

*ping*


7 posted on 06/07/2010 1:54:48 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

Whitman is not a Republican and cannot win in November. But I don’t blame her for not wanting to be seen with Orly Taitz.


8 posted on 06/07/2010 1:56:43 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Now she’s running for the GOP nomination for secretary of state, and with her establishment-backed primary opponent mounting a less-than-stellar campaign against her, operatives say there’s a chance she could win.

Obviously she has a large enough block supporting her if this report is accurate. One question then is how extreme is she if a large enough group of people put her over the top? Another would be what signal does this send to the rest of the OP(formerly the GOP) who have ignored the constitutional issue of BO/BS not fulfilling the natural born citizenship requirement in Article 2 Section 1?
9 posted on 06/07/2010 1:57:04 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Sub-Driver

I could care less if both Meg Whitman and Abel Maldonado lose in November. In fact, I hope they both lose.

Here’s why. CA is so screwed up right now because of 40 years of liberalism. We are $$BILLION in debt and $$BILLIONS short for next years fiscal budget. Either taxes have to go up or spending has to go down, or both. If a Republican (Meg) has to oversee the tax increase and budget cuts, she will be vilified by the liberal media and the state worker’s unions.

I would much rather see Jerry Brown and his democRAT cohorts grapple with this problem that belongs to them. I want Californians and all Americans to see what 40 years of liberalism looks like (just like Greece).

On the contrary, an Orly Taliz victory would be awesome. Her first action as Secretary of State would be to see who “validated” Barry Soetoro’s credentials. That would be a lot of fun. Based on Barry’s tanking poll numbers, she could win.

This has our media’s heads spinning. The media’s worst fear is that Barry is not legal and the media did nothing to investigate it. Bloggers win. Media loses. That is their worst fear. watch they villify Orly from now until November.


10 posted on 06/07/2010 1:58:25 PM PDT by UglyinLA
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To: Sub-Driver
“ Can you imagine if [gubernatorial candidate] Meg Whitman and [candidate for Lt. Gov.] Abel Maldonado—both of whom might have a chance to win in November—had to run with Orly Taitz as secretary of state, who would make her cockamamie issues about Obama’s birth certificate problems at the forefront of her activities?”

As if the combination of Whitman and Maldonado at the top of the ticket isn't bad enough, he should have said, we have to put up with a "birther."

Orly is a bit of a running joke over the last couple years, but her heart is in the right place. BTW, she was born in the former Soviet Union, and was a Russian citizen before emigrating to the US, that from her own statement.

11 posted on 06/07/2010 2:00:04 PM PDT by fantail 1952 (God bless and keep those veterans who sacrificed their all for our freedom!)
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To: UglyinLA; CondoleezzaProtege
Go, Jerry, G@!!!!!!
12 posted on 06/07/2010 2:00:51 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: F15Eagle

If 0bama was born in Hawaii, why is his SSN (042-xx-xxxx) that of someone born in Connecticut? Hmmmmmmmmmm.


13 posted on 06/07/2010 2:02:12 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Awww. Isn’t it sweet that the little lefty drones who populate the MSM are so concerned and obsessed about the GOP’s fate to the exclusion of all else?
Never mind that their bonehead love object in the WH is taking the gas pipe on every issue and the Dem brand is getting a favorability profile somewhat akin to terminal cancer.


14 posted on 06/07/2010 2:03:48 PM PDT by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: Sub-Driver

“Now she’s running for the GOP nomination for secretary of state”

Doesn’t seem to have much support:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2529544/posts
Obama birth lawyer finds few donors
The Orange County Register ^ | 06/04/2010 | Martin Wisckol

Campaign disclosures filed with incumbent Secretary of State Debra Bowen show that Taitz has raised $6,000 and loaned her campaign an additional $39,600. Her opponent in the Republican primary, Irvine businessman Damon Dunn, has raised $276,000 and loaned his campaign $60,000 more.


but that doesn’t matter to the Pravda Media which wants to use her to slur an entire party.


15 posted on 06/07/2010 2:06:42 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Well, that’s not necessarily a problem - IF he resided in Connecticut.

I was born in one state - only to get my SSN in another state at AROUND age 16 (IIRC) for a job where taxes were to be withheld.

(and yes, I’m a natural born citizen of two natural born citizens) of the United States. ;)

It would be issued with a number of the state in which you are residing (back then).

The real question is, was Obama residing in Connecticut when that was issued?

And (as has been claimed) is that in fact the SSN of someone else?


16 posted on 06/07/2010 2:09:11 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Sub-Driver
No one has discredited Orly Taitz, though they have refused to hear her cases, No one has shown her the long form birth certifcate.

There are more birthers out there than being reported and they too will vote in Nov.

17 posted on 06/07/2010 2:11:13 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Sub-Driver; Yaelle; ExTexasRedhead; AJFavish; Cindy; Cinnamon Girl; Red Steel; David; sofaman; ...

The CA GOP should be happy to have Orly Taitz as its candidate for SOS. If Orly should win, that could possibly cause O to have second thoughts about running for re-election in 2012, since the SOS supervises the elections in the state. Far better that she hold the office than a Dem hack who would routinely condone cheating and fraud.


18 posted on 06/07/2010 2:15:08 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Sub-Driver

On the other hand, if she is correct about Obama's ineligibility (and I am confident she is), having been the only one on the ticket with guts enough to speak out on the topic makes her the only one worthy of the job.


19 posted on 06/07/2010 2:25:55 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Sub-Driver
I think she has a legal plan that if she had this position she would have more legal power to call O on eligibility.

Soros has been targeting these positions, would rather have Orly.

20 posted on 06/07/2010 2:27:11 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: ABQHispConservative

Both birthers and truthers are nuts.


21 posted on 06/07/2010 2:29:01 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: TexasCajun

I also think that as information gets out about further illegal actions by both the HDOH and the media, any candidate who is anti-incumbent in a REAL sense (fighting the establishment’s status quo of covering each other’s criminal behavior) will be a refreshing option, so that intensity (implying somebody who gaves a rat’s arse about the law) might not be interpreted as insanity, as the media interprets Orly.

The more the republicans run candidates who are ignorant of the facts, afraid of the media, and blase’ about the rule of law, the more I think the whole system needs a good kick in the teeth, and electing somebody who is the exact opposite of that fat, complacent, corrupt status quo would send a message that people are increasingly aware that the system NEEDS to hear, loud and clear. The ultimate protest vote would be to elect somebody who is absolutely in-your-face against the media and the establishment corruption which gave us Obama.

Politico doesn’t allow an opportunity for comments, but I take STRONG EXCEPTION to the claim that Orly has questioned Obama’s eligibility AGAINST ALL EVIDENCE. When the Hawaii DOH, against their own interest, confirms in 2 different ways through official communications that Obama’s posted COLB is a forgery - including the admission that the best they have for Obama is not prima facie evidence - I’d say that’s powerful evidence that what Politico calls “evidence” is actually evidence AGAINST Obama. So the better statement for Politico would be that Orly, consistent with all evidence, questions Obama’s eligibility.

Politico would NEVER be that factually correct though - and that’s why a vote consistent with the facts would be a smack-down of Politico and all the rest of the corrupt media as well as the corrupt bureaucracy.


22 posted on 06/07/2010 2:37:02 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Will Orly be asking the United Nations to assist with her campaign?


23 posted on 06/07/2010 2:38:41 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Captain Kirk

You’re half right.


24 posted on 06/07/2010 2:42:34 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Captain Kirk

The Hawaii DOH has confirmed, in 2 different ways through official communications, that Obama’s Factcheck COLB is a forgery, because

1) the HDOH has made a statutory confirmation that Obama’s COLB is amended. HDOH Administrative Rules, which were illegally hidden until November of 2009, say that all birth certificates must contain note of amendments (and the technical name for a COLB is an “abbreviated birth certificate”). Since the Factcheck COLB doesn’t note the amendment, it is known to be a forgery. And

2) the HDOH has said that all Oahu BC’s were received at the state registrar’s office and given a number by the state registrar on that same day - the “date filed”. Obama’s BC was “filed” on Aug 8, three days before the Nordyke twins’ BC’s were filed, and yet his BC has a higher (later) number than theirs. This statement by the HDOH rules out previous explanations for the discrepancy, since hospitals were given neither pre-numbered BC’s nor blocks of numbers to use and since there weren’t piles sitting around for 3 days awaiting processing at the state registrar’s office. Because the numbers are incompatible, we know that either the date filed or the certificate number is falsified (or both), making the Factcheck COLB a forgery.

More information and documentation is at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/

The fact of the matter is that the HDOH has broken numerous laws on Obama’s behalf - possibly including the illegal destruction of permanent records (the original 1961 birth index, the index of foreign births, and the birth certificate of the little girl who was actually given the certificate number that Obama used on his forged COLB).

And more criminal action by the HDOH will almost certainly be revealed very soon.

Obama could never have been elected without a corrupt and criminally-negligent government, media, and law enforcement. This issue is really about the rule of law. See http://www.butterdezillion.wordpress.com for more on why the “birther” issue is not a fringe issue, but the critical, central issue America faces at this time: whether or not we are a nation under the rule of law, or whether we are a mafia-run banana republic.


25 posted on 06/07/2010 2:51:00 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: SunkenCiv; Clintonfatigued; GOP_Lady; Lady GOP; GOPGuide; Lady Jag; ladyvet; Mr. Mojo; ...

Ping!!!

Please see my post # 18.


26 posted on 06/07/2010 2:53:41 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Sub-Driver

Nothing wrong with being a Birther. We need more of them.


27 posted on 06/07/2010 3:00:47 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Yes.


28 posted on 06/07/2010 3:06:24 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Captain Kirk; All

I should clarify that it is only my suspicion that the BC that the HDOH may have destroyed contains the certificate number that Obama used on his Factcheck forgery.

I know that the birth certificate existed at one point (unless multiple government entities broke the law back in 1961) and that the HDOH claims it doesn’t exist now. The timing of the birth is right for it to have that number. The original 1961 index which the HDOH says doesn’t exist (in which case they illegally destroyed it) would, if not altered as the HDOH has almost certainly altered at least one other index list, would possibly show not only that they had on file a BC for that little girl, but also what certificate number she was given.

Why is the HDOH claiming this girl’s birth record doesn’t exist - which, if true, would mean that they are destroying permanent records of an individual?


29 posted on 06/07/2010 3:55:46 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Captain Kirk
Both birthers and truthers are nuts.

The former is nuts for the Constitution.
30 posted on 06/07/2010 4:04:28 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: justiceseeker93
Amen! Amen!

Everyone should read your comment.

ML/NJ

31 posted on 06/07/2010 4:24:37 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: justiceseeker93
Oh, and BTW, Taitz may have made a whistle stop in Israel, but she is quite Russian (or maybe only from the USSR dominated by Russians).

ML/NJ

32 posted on 06/07/2010 4:27:05 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Sub-Driver

Beats having Fiorina on the “team”.


33 posted on 06/07/2010 4:30:04 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: justiceseeker93

Thanks for the ping!


34 posted on 06/07/2010 4:36:50 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: F15Eagle

Maybe if the GOP addressed the issue with honesty they wouldn’t be concerned.


Exactly. The Birther issue should be honestly addressed by the GOP....instead of trying to ridicule those who believe that Obama was not natural born

People like Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, Andrew Breitbart, and others do a big disservice when they ridicule Birthers....and it should make you wonder if these people are really “conservative” anyway.

You have to wonder why so many GOP are trying to cover for Obama. You are either a Birther or an Obama Enabler


35 posted on 06/07/2010 4:39:02 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD Hayworth for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com)
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To: justiceseeker93; devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; bitt; dixiechick2000
I'd prefer anyone over a democrat. I stopped following the BC threads some time ago and for some reason I ended up with a negative view of Taitz.

She fought hard but always seemed to end up in a bungled situation. Just my impression of things.

36 posted on 06/07/2010 4:53:38 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: potlatch
[Taitz] fought hard but always seemed to end up in a bungled situation.

As SOS, she would have a lot more weapons at her disposal because she would be administering all elections in the state. Harder to bungle when you have the clout.

37 posted on 06/07/2010 5:17:45 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

[Harder to bungle when you have the clout.]

LOL, may I mention the name “Barack Obama”?

Just my opinion but “ Might doesn’t make ‘Bright’” amd and I think she messed up a number of times.


38 posted on 06/07/2010 5:25:59 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: Captain Kirk

“Birthers” would include the founder of FR.


39 posted on 06/07/2010 5:41:50 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

All they have to do is issue a statement that they believe Obama was born in Hawaii but wonder why he won’t release his Long Form Birth Certificate with Doctor and Hospital, for Lt. Colonel Lakin’s trial, for example, setting the precedent and ending the issue.

That statement alone leaves zer0 with no wiggle room.


40 posted on 06/07/2010 7:07:11 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Captain Kirk

The victory would be very short-lived, as she would crash and burn so hard in November.

But I sincerely doubt she’ll come close to even whiffing victory Tuesday. I think this story is just more media-made drama.


41 posted on 06/07/2010 9:42:02 PM PDT by speciallybland
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To: UglyinLA

the only way CA can get out of their hole is to erect and control hundreds of oil rigs off their shores. They’d go insane but they could pay off their debt is three years. >)


42 posted on 06/07/2010 11:15:06 PM PDT by bitt ( "If this is what Team Obama calls "saved," then please, let me give purgatory a shot. ")
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To: potlatch

I have to BTTT your reply. ;o)


43 posted on 06/08/2010 12:11:05 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Remember November...I can see it from my house!)
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To: TexasCajun

Indeed we will. And until the GOP start taking the constitution seriously, we’d rather not vote for them. Now waiting for somebody to trot out the “lesser of two evils!” mantra.


44 posted on 06/08/2010 2:25:29 AM PDT by IntolerantOfTreason (The AMERICAN President should be an AMERICAN, NOT an AFRICAN-American)
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To: bitt

California democRATS are betting on amnesty to bring in tax revenue and add more democRAT voters at the same time. Watch the pressure build to pass Immigration Reform and allow illegals to become voters just in time for November.

California is about to become Greece. We’ve already borrowed $12B from next years tax receipts to balance this years budget. And they are project a $20B deficit for next year, so we are already $32B short. Californians are gonna get screwed big time.

On top of all that, our award-winning muslim Kenya born illegal alien warmongering president, Barry Soetoro, is driving the economy into an inflationary-depression which will destroy the middle class tax base. We are so scruuuuuuuuud.


45 posted on 06/08/2010 9:19:01 AM PDT by UglyinLA
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To: butterdezillion

Excellent stuff.


46 posted on 06/08/2010 9:23:34 AM PDT by UglyinLA
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To: little jeremiah

Oh....I wasn’t aware you were a “founder” of FR. I’ve been here longer than most and must have missed that memo.


47 posted on 06/08/2010 9:32:47 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Sub-Driver
It at moments like these when I start to susepct that Orly is a paid Obama agent.
48 posted on 06/08/2010 9:42:58 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: F15Eagle
why he won’t release his Long Form Birth Certificate with Doctor and Hospital

It's really simple. He won't release it because it isn't necessary to prove his eligibility. All the information necessary to prove natural born status is on the short form he already released.

Why are you so obcessed with the doctor and hospital? What possible relevance does it have to his eligbility?

49 posted on 06/08/2010 9:46:32 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: Captain Kirk; Jim Robinson

???? Are you out of your mind? I never in any way implied that; maybe you are on some kind of medication?

I’m referring to the august Jim Robinson who also questions 0thugga’s eligibility, and considers it a legitimate topic and question, which qualifies him in the “birther” camp.

(Courtesty ping to JimRob in case I at all misrepresented his position.)


50 posted on 06/08/2010 10:05:12 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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