Posted on 06/13/2010 11:56:17 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
Edited on 06/13/2010 1:39:14 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
JUNEAU, Alaska (AP)
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OK, explain the logic to me because I'm not seeing it at all. You take what you win now, and you keep pressing the fight to win more. How is that defensive?
Did the US stage a few raids over Berlin and Tokyo early in WWII? YES. Did they win? No. Did we try then to make incremental wins and keep fighting? Yes. THAT is what won. It wasn't won by simply dropping bombs on Berlin and Tokyo and doing only that. You get to the goal by working towards it, not making an immediate jump.
Take the victories now, take the wins now and keep fighting for even more in the future. Your position - accept 100% or nothing - is the true defeatist strategy. Just what Reagan spoke about. You will lose the battles and the war because you cannot accept incremental gains. A victory to you is worthless unless it's the final victory. THAT is defeatist, illogical, and in fact anti-conservative.
But answer the question: what candidate is an acceptable candidate to you? Name a name. Who's your ideologically pure candidate?
Fair question. I've given mine. DeMint, Palin, Bachmann, Pence, Ryan, this is my short list.
Who's yours?
OK, let’s break it down... What’s McCain’s positions? Let’s go at them one at a time. And let’s get your ideas of what is the real “conservative” position.
So let’s enumerate the issues; particulars, not big vague generalities.
Your remark about incremental gains is spot on. The Left is good at turning incremental gains into a winning strategy. Our “Rinos” play into that because they are ready to give ground a little at a time.
But our effective leaders and fighters take a little today, and come right back tomorrow to advance a little more. You never give up. You do what is possible today, and that lays the ground for what now becomes possible having done that. The difference between the person who compromises to gain ground, and the guy who compromises losing ground, is all the difference in the world.
The Republican establishment has NEVER reduced the size of the Federal government (with the exception of maybe under Coolidge in the 1920s), instead merely growing it in certain areas while attempting to modify other parts to suit conservative "sensibilities."
That is why you find the Republican establishment today defending such Democrat/Socialist programs as Medicare and Social Security, the progressive "War on Drugs," and Wilsonian foreign policy.
Reagan himself once said:
"No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth!"
The reason that statement is true is because the Republican establishment is unwilling to reduce the size of the Federal government because nobody wants to reduce their cut from the Federal pie and because conservatives are content with taking what they can get...after all, "where else will they go?" is the typical Republican line of reasoning.
Continuing to eat the scraps thrown on the floor by the Republican establishment is a defensive strategy. Insisting upon real, genuine American Constitutional conservatism is the only winning, offensive strategy. Either obliterate the RINOs once and for all, or they will consider to lead conservatives astray.
Unfortunately for Palin, she appears to still believe in the Republican establishment...and that's not an attack; those are her very own words.
I like your list! From the Senate I’d probably add Bunning and Kyl as well, and from the House I’d add Issa, Cantor, Hastings and Sensenbrenner. From Governors I’d add Barbour and Pawlenty.
I wonder if Rabscuttle385 will ever list his?
I have no issue with DeMint or McClintock at this time.
What candidate is an acceptable candidate to you? Name a name. Who’s your ideologically pure candidate?
That’s why 90% of the nation said “Who?” when her nomination was announced.
DeMint endorsed Dan Coats in the Indiana Senate primary; Dan Coats supported Ginsburg and Souter, voted for the Clinton gun ban, the Brady bill, and voted to provide US dollars for overseas abortions. Clearly DeMint supported the RINO (maybe even DIABLO?) and thus himself is no better than Palin.
McClintock supported Poizner - what more needs to be said except that McClintock is now a RINO lover as well, just like Palin.
So you’re 0 for 2 - what candidate is an acceptable candidate to you? Name a name. Who’s your ideologically pure candidate?
Palin endorsed Didier in Washington state; hardly a RINO.
Since then she QUIT, tucked tail between her legs, and has supported RINOs of every stripe. She’s laughing all the way to the bank ... the poor thing. I wish her well making $$$ but as a serious solon she’s taken to the low road.
LOL! So right you are. Ain't it grand?
No, Didier is a RINO in rabs’ eyes because not only did RINO-lover Palin endorse him, he took Federal subsidies for his farm. So he’s a RINO, not a conservative at all (personally, I like Didier, really like Akers, but would take either OR Rossi in absolute joy over the most liberal senator per the ACU - Patty Murray).
I’m still waiting for rabs to tell us what candidate is an acceptable candidate to him... To name a name, so we can be told who’s the ideologically pure candidate.
Earlier he said he liked DeMint and McClintock but both of those are clearly RINOs based upon their own association and support of RINOs. And Didier is out as well. Somewhere there has to be an uber-conservative!
Sara, your Saint, is a sellout. No that there’s anything wrong with that. She’s a white female Soetoro. Stop the stupid caterwauling on Rabs. You have no argument except for the gov’t trough you feed at.
Who’s your ideologically pure conservative candidate? Can you name someone who espouses the virtues of conservatism as you and rabs demand?
A friendly question. How does your question apply to the democrats and especially Obama’s gang?
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