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Go look up wideband (some, I think I said) O2 sensor and getback to
me Mr GM. Also cheap has nothing to do whether it has ethanol or not. Your the one that’s pissed because you have GM cars that are now Goverment, not me. Mine quit tripping the sensor after a few tanks.

I noticed that when I filled up with BP it didn’t do it as often.

LOL.

You're right on with Goobermint Motors. I won't buy anything post-2006 or 7 for certain. That's why I'm still running 10 and 15 yr olds! And will keep doing as long as the UAW/DNC runs them.

And based on the new CAFE limits, ain't nobody going to build anything but crappy little Citroens from here on out anyhow.

I'll be taking up the 55 Chevy Cuban Car Club maintenance model! Oldy but goody with baling wire if I have to!

But the main point was that brand loyalty is already anachronistic.

It doesn't mean anything anymore.

Cars and gas (somewhat less so) are not vertically integrated anymore.

Bosch, NTK, Denso, Delphi, etc don't always manufacture the sensors either. Sometimes they subcontract further to Standard Motor Products and other off brand replacement parts outfits which repackage baseline components in new fittings and new connectors for the OEM app.

The local gas station has no idea what is getting dumped in their tanks. How much water and dirt and scale has gotten into the tanker/hoses/undergorund-tanks? And whether it's 15% or 8% ethanol, your car needs to be able to reliably burn it.

If you can get 200,000 miles without changing any engine components other than fan belts and filters, then that's a reliable mix of system integration engineering and good oem components.

If not, it's not.

Wanna talk about consumer electronics "brands!?" LOL.