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NRA isn't the villain in the free-speech fight
Washington Examiner ^ | June 18, 2010 | Timothy P. Carney

Posted on 06/18/2010 1:53:10 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 06/18/2010 1:53:11 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Somebody stepped in some doodoo.


2 posted on 06/18/2010 2:00:59 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (Pander to me for a change!!)
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To: neverdem
But even faced with these valid arguments the NRA's walking away from this fight is hard to swallow...

...the NRA, by dropping its objection to the bill, is... abandoning friends.

I'm still ticked, and a soon-to-be-ex-NRA member.

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3 posted on 06/18/2010 2:07:40 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: neverdem
The NRA's chief lobbyist, Chris Cox...

Is this the same Chris Cox who, under Bush, eliminated the uptick rule for shorting stocks and caused the financial crisis in the market?

He's a lobbyist now?

4 posted on 06/18/2010 2:14:52 PM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: neverdem

I let them know that if what I am reading is true I may not be renewing my membership when it comes up. The NRA presents itself as a staunch supporter of the Constitution with, of course, its main concern being the Second Amendment. I do not believe that one can pick and choose portions of the Constitution to support and others to abandon and claim to be all about “Constitutional rights”. From what I have read of this “Disclose Act” it is all about suppressing speech that the rats don’t like while empowering their allies to say whatever they want. That stinks and if the NRA is at all serious about upholding the Constitution they will say so and act accordingly.


5 posted on 06/18/2010 2:15:19 PM PDT by scory
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To: Seaplaner

Actually, the NRA was being, ummm, “creative.”

By getting the Congressional commies to “carve out” an exemption for the NRA they may have killed the bill from the left!


6 posted on 06/18/2010 2:23:36 PM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: raybbr
Is this the same Chris Cox who, under Bush, eliminated the uptick rule for shorting stocks and caused the financial crisis in the market?

He's a lobbyist now?

No, this Chris Cox has headed the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action, NRA-ILA, for quite a while.

7 posted on 06/18/2010 2:30:12 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Wow, there sure are a lot of Chris Cox’s out there. So this isn’t the grandson of Richard M. Nixon?


8 posted on 06/18/2010 2:36:31 PM PDT by lowtaxsmallgov (http://www.chrisgibsonforcongress.com/donate.html)
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To: Sybeck1

Questions for the NRA:

If everyone else has lost their 1A rights, who will be able to stand beside you when they come after your 1A rights? Surely you don’t think they’re not going to come for you too?

And when no one has 1A rights anymore, how are you going to defend your 2A rights?

*******

A strong First Amendemnt protects every other right. When the First Amendment is weakened, every other right is weakened. This shouldn’t be hard to understand.


9 posted on 06/18/2010 2:47:24 PM PDT by lowtaxsmallgov (http://www.chrisgibsonforcongress.com/donate.html)
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To: Little Ray
Possibly, but I don't think that what you describe was an objective.

I went to the NRA website, and just look at the weaselly and deceptive way they describe to us (for now) members that they are withdrawing opposition:

Consequently, congressional leaders announced they would exempt us from its draconian restrictions on political speech. If that happens, we will not be involved in final consideration of this bill in the House.

Those two sentences lets us know that NRA is more than a little slippery in the weasel word dept; and that it thinks its members are incapable of reading.

Me, I'm headed for the exit.

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10 posted on 06/18/2010 2:48:28 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: neverdem

Sitting by while freedom is taken is not what the NRA should do. They were bought real cheap on this one.


11 posted on 06/18/2010 2:50:41 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Communism has arrived in Washington)
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My understanding is that the NRA’s exemption alone would mean most Democrats would not vote for the bill at all. That’s a slick political move on the part of the NRA. It stopped a bad bill for everyone. I’ll keep my membership in the NRA.


12 posted on 06/18/2010 2:52:34 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: Little Ray
Actually, the NRA was being, ummm, “creative.”

I agree. NRA made an educated guess that this carve out would generate outrage and thereby kill the whole thing. AND, display for all to see the complete lack of integrity so many legislators have.

13 posted on 06/18/2010 2:58:53 PM PDT by FourPeas (God Save America)
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To: FourPeas

“THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist.

THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew.

THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

Neimoller”

Nuff said.


14 posted on 06/18/2010 3:18:05 PM PDT by RetiredNavy ("Only accurate firearms are interesting" (Lifetime NRA member))
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To: neverdem
And Ben Nelson was only looking out for Iowa with the Cornhusker kickback.

A bribe to drop opposition to an unconstitutional law remains such whether it was asked for or not. Only the acceptance is necessary for it to be a bribe.

15 posted on 06/18/2010 4:25:55 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just a liberals who lies.)
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To: Little Ray
I LOVE you!
16 posted on 06/18/2010 4:36:16 PM PDT by 4Liberty ( we have a rat problem.)
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To: wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; Jeff Head; ...
Tim Carney has the best summary that I've read so far: "NRA isn't the villain in the free-speech fight." The left wound up yanking the bill. Lets hope that all's well that ends well.

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17 posted on 06/18/2010 5:35:40 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: RetiredNavy

INDEED.


18 posted on 06/18/2010 5:37:18 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: neverdem
The Leftwingtards and their totalitarian solutions to minor problems will return. They always do.

There is no victory in this ~ which is why we have to vote these pukes out this Fall.

19 posted on 06/18/2010 5:44:16 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


20 posted on 06/18/2010 8:40:20 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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