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Hey 9/11 Truthers! Is this a conspiracy too?
American Thinker ^ | June 19, 2010 | Michael Geer

Posted on 06/19/2010 10:37:41 AM PDT by jazusamo

The Delft University of Technology, Architecture School collapsed in a pancake reaction to a fire. Let me repeat that .... the School Of Architecture. I'm highly doubtful they built a deficient building for themselves. Steel frame high rise building collapses and is utterly destroyed by a fire begun by a shorted out coffee pot.

It wasn't bombs, renegade black-ops, secret demolition, cruise missiles or remotely controlled fake 737s that brought down the architecture school's steel frame building. It was fire that weakened the interior steel beam structure to the point that the weight and mass from above finally collapsed under the weight. Video of the moment is identical to the kind of collapse and dust/debris cloud witnessed on 9/11 at the World Trade Center. 

View the fire and collapse here: LiveLeak.com - Delft University of Technology in Holland on fire and collapsing

History of the Delft University of Technology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's a powerful slap in the chops to 9/11 Truthers. 


TOPICS: Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; buildingcollapse; ronpaul; troofers; truthers
Like to hear what Rosie O'Donut has to say about this.
1 posted on 06/19/2010 10:37:41 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

The whole “no steel structure building ever collapsed by fire” line just shows how stupid they were. I can’t remember who it was, but we have one FReeper who was a fire investigator and posted links to dozens upon dozens of similar structured buildings collapsing in a fire, including one church where you can see the metal rafters twisted and warped by the heat of the fire- a regular structure fire mind you, nothing as dramatic as the jet fuel fire at the twin towers.


2 posted on 06/19/2010 10:41:02 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: jazusamo

There’s no doubt that people WANT to believe stuff like that.

It makes them feel smart & superior.

The alex jones websites tap into that. It’s quite similar to the control methods used at the universities - “if you believe us, you’re smart, if you don’t, you’re dumb”. Everyone wants others to think they’re smart.


3 posted on 06/19/2010 10:43:52 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: mnehring
There was also an article in Popular Mechanics back in 2007 that disputed many of the 9/11 Truthers claims, including the structural component...
4 posted on 06/19/2010 10:47:04 AM PDT by bcsco (First there was Slick Willie. Now there's "Oil Slick" Barry...)
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To: mnehring

Yes, the stupidity of the truthers was laughable. Anyone who knows anything about the fire service, structural integrity or properties of steel knew right away what took place. I’ve seen very large steel roof beams twisted like pretzels after a major fire, retired from fire service.


5 posted on 06/19/2010 10:47:12 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Honestly, what is a “truther?” The opposite of a “liar?” (which it should be).


6 posted on 06/19/2010 10:50:42 AM PDT by Jim 0216
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To: Jim 0216

A “Truther” is someone who believes that 9/11 was caused by a) George W. Bush, b) the Mossad, or c) [Insert your favorite bogeyman here], and NOT by Arabs flying hijacked airplanes. They are not well people.


7 posted on 06/19/2010 11:01:59 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: jazusamo
If the Delft University fire wasn't a conspiracy then explain this picture!!!

Looks like a 'teabagger' or maybe Amish if you ask me!

8 posted on 06/19/2010 11:03:00 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: jazusamo

There was asbestos covering the metal, but that was taken off which then made the steel vulnerable.

Horrible irony. 3000 dead because they thought the asbestos was too great a risk.

Very sad.


9 posted on 06/19/2010 11:04:07 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Obama will sink as fast as he rose. Idolatry will not succeed. Be patient, folks...)
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To: Slings and Arrows; Jim 0216
They are not well people

LOL! Right on.

They're nutjob conspiracy theorists that belong in a padded room. :)

10 posted on 06/19/2010 11:07:37 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Kartographer

Heh Heh Heh

Could be and won’t argue with that. :-)


11 posted on 06/19/2010 11:09:14 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

In a moment there will be a bunch of arabs and leftists along to tell you that prior to the fire, Jews were observed bearing coffee pots to all four cornes of the building, as well as to all the elevators.


12 posted on 06/19/2010 11:09:22 AM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Kartographer

When does Lootie show up?


13 posted on 06/19/2010 11:11:20 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: jazusamo

Alex Jones, pick up the white courtesy phone, please. Alex Jones...


14 posted on 06/19/2010 11:11:32 AM PDT by Allegra (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: Kartographer

what


15 posted on 06/19/2010 11:11:34 AM PDT by griswold3 (If you rob Peter to pay Paul, you've already got half the vote.)
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To: jazusamo
IMO, the same conditions of open borders, not knowing whose coming and going and special treatment for certain groups will make 9-11 look like a birthday party.

Why would anyone not think our government was complicit? They haven't changed much and we're still in peril.

16 posted on 06/19/2010 11:14:53 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Allegra

LOL! I’d bet Alex could whip up an answer for this in less than a minute.


17 posted on 06/19/2010 11:15:07 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: mnehring
where you can see the metal rafters twisted and warped by the heat of the fire- a regular structure fire mind you,

The heat does not twist or warp the steel. It's the stress from gravity on the weight of the structure and what it carries that does that. The heat simply reduces the stress the steel can carry.

18 posted on 06/19/2010 11:16:48 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: Slings and Arrows
"Truther." Gotta be a liberal term - another Orwellian example of a word that means the opposite of how it's used. Other examples:

"Liberals" - they're actually tyrants

"Progressives" - they digress into spiritual and political darkness

“Intellectual elite” – they’re the vanguard of irrational beliefs having nothing to do intelligent reason or truth.

“Stimulus” – Phony term that does not stimulate anything expect raising taxes which is its real purpose.

“The People” – The government.

I’m sure someone has a whole litany of ex-Soviet Communist terms used to “justify” oppression and death of its citizens.

19 posted on 06/19/2010 11:17:40 AM PDT by Jim 0216
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To: jazusamo

It’s a waste to try and argue with or educate a “911 Truther-Liar”. To me, they are in the same societal gutter as Pedophiles; sick, dangerous, perverse, paranoid, narcissistic, obtuse, and delusional. They should not be talked to - only talked “about” and marginalised for the destructive losers and cowards that they are. Alex Jones is damn lucky I was not around when he got in Michelle Malkin’s face here just blocks from where I worked in 2008...damn lucky.


20 posted on 06/19/2010 11:36:46 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (Rev. Wright said "G_d D_mn America!". B-HO replied, "I'll do my best.")
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To: jazusamo

We have a bunch of Ron Paul idiots here who believe that Bush blew up the Twin Towers. There is nothing that you can say that will change their minds.

Every one of them is a paranoid conspiracy freak. They need to feel like they have the REAL truth. They are a pretty pathetic bunch.


21 posted on 06/19/2010 11:38:45 AM PDT by SkipW
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To: LittleBillyInfidel; SkipW

Yep, it’s a waste of time talking to them. Their minds are made up and they won’t be confused by listening to facts. I believe it’s best just to laugh at them.


22 posted on 06/19/2010 11:42:49 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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im certainly no truther, but watching the vid shows a partial collapse of the floors that were burned out, the base of the building is still there as are the parts of the building to the side of the collapse area...


23 posted on 06/19/2010 11:44:44 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: Jim 0216
"Truther." Gotta be a liberal term

Hard left, plus several Hollywood idiots. These people are seriously nuts [WARNING: Strong language].

Good examples, BTW.

24 posted on 06/19/2010 11:45:17 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: bcsco

There also was an art. in Pop. Mech. in the 1960’s guaranteeing oil would run out by 1999, so ..........


25 posted on 06/19/2010 11:47:31 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: jazusamo
Like to hear what Rosie O'Donut has to say about this.

"I do believe that it’s the first second time in history that fire has ever melted steel.
I do believe that it defies physics....."

-- Rosie O'Donuts; World renown physicist, metallurgist and explosives expert


26 posted on 06/19/2010 11:48:00 AM PDT by Iron Munro (I prayed: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous."And God granted it. ~ Voltaire)
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To: Iron Munro

ROFL!

I do believe you’re right.


27 posted on 06/19/2010 11:54:04 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
The steel springs that assist garage door openers are strong, powerful beasts. One of ours broke and the flying end blasted a hole in the garage wall... (When I replaced it, I installed a steel safety cable inside it in case it ever broke again.)

Shortly thereafter, we had a fire that destroyed the garage. Afterward, that massive steel spring was so annealed and weakened that I was able to straighten it right out -- with only my bare hands -- and that was after it had cooled...

Don't tell me that fire can't weaken steel!

28 posted on 06/19/2010 12:06:35 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Jim 0216

“Honestly, what is a ‘truther?’ The opposite of a ‘liar?’ (which it should be).”

Truthers were named such because amidst spinning their various conspiracy theories, they claimed they only wanted to know “the truth,” which the 9/11 Commission among others was hiding.


29 posted on 06/19/2010 12:23:32 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: TXnMA

Yes, the heat took the temper out of the steel spring and the metal became malleable again. When I was a kid my grandad had a forge and used it for making and repairing ranch equipment and tools, I loved to sit and watch him shape steel when it was glowing orange on the anvil.


30 posted on 06/19/2010 12:33:13 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Kartographer

I knew the Travelocity Gnome was involved with 9-11 truthers!


31 posted on 06/19/2010 12:50:03 PM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: norraad

So that means this 2007 investigation is automatically wrong?


32 posted on 06/19/2010 1:19:28 PM PDT by bcsco (First there was Slick Willie. Now there's "Oil Slick" Barry...)
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To: jazusamo
A few weeks ago, I watched a blacksmith at a local outdoor festival turn a 1/2" thick, 4" long steel chunk into a beautifully shaped knife blade with nicely-tapered tang -- using only hammer, anvil, heat and skill. Folks who have never felt the "squish" of red-hot steel under the hammer have no concept of how soft and plastic heated steel is.

And, several times, I have laughed at grandkids and their friends while roasting wieners and hot dogs on steel coat hangers. When they reach across the fire to put their food over a "perfect" bunch of coals on the other side, the main fire "wilts" their hanger -- and their food "droops" down into the ashes... '-)

"Truthers" fit the "I slept though fifth grade science class" category...

33 posted on 06/19/2010 1:20:54 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: jazusamo

BTTT!


34 posted on 06/19/2010 6:47:59 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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