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Turkish airspace closed to Israel
AFP via Yahoo News ^ | 6/28/2010 | Suzan Fraser

Posted on 06/28/2010 1:42:20 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

Turkey has closed its airspace to Israeli military flights following a deadly raid on a Gaza-bound aid ship, the Turkish prime minister and officials said Monday.

Recep Tayyip Erdogan told reporters in Toronto that Turkey imposed the ban after the May 31 raid on a Turkish ship that was part of a six-vessel international aid flotilla, according to the state-run Anatolia news agency. The prime minister, who is in Canada to attend a summit of the Group of 20 major industrial and developing nations, did not elaborate.

On Sunday, Israel's Yediot Ahronot newspaper reported that Turkey had not allowed a plane carrying Israeli military officers, en route to a tour of memorial sites in Auschwitz, Poland, to fly over Turkish airspace.

The transport plane, with more than 100 commissioned and noncommissioned officers on board, was forced to make a detour, the paper said.

The Israeli military "refrained from responding officially to the event so not to exacerbate the rift in relations," the newspaper added.

A Turkish government official said the ban was for Israeli military flights and that commercial flights were not affected. It was not a blanket ban and each flight request would be assessed case-by-case, the official added. The official spoke on condition of anonymity, in line with government rules that bar officials from speaking to journalists without prior authorization.

The Israeli prime minister's office had no comment on Erdogan's statements.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airspace; antisemitism; closed; iran; islamicsurpremacists; islamictheocracy; israel; israelimilitary; leftistantisemitism; liberalantisemitism; muslims; nato; receperdogan; socialistracism; terrorism; turkey

1 posted on 06/28/2010 1:42:24 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; Mr. Mojo; James C. Bennett; mowowie; Captain Beyond; darkwing104; JRios1968; ...

Ping


2 posted on 06/28/2010 1:44:13 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ( "Fortes fortuna adiuvat"-Fortune Favors the Strong)
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To: sonofstrangelove

If Israel was attacking Iran, they could go over Iraq. In fact, they could refuel in Iraq.


3 posted on 06/28/2010 2:00:20 AM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: jonrick46

Obama will now allow flight over Iraq


4 posted on 06/28/2010 2:16:13 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: sonofstrangelove

Occupied Turkey


5 posted on 06/28/2010 2:34:23 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: sonofstrangelove
I'm still waiting on the Turks to give back Constantinople.

The fact that the worthless bastards refuse to support the Israelis as they face growing threats of international terrorism does not surprise me in the slightest.

6 posted on 06/28/2010 3:08:45 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

The real question is, are the Turks orally servicing the Iranians, or is it the Iranians servicing the Turks?

This comes as no surprise.


7 posted on 06/28/2010 3:29:57 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: mkjessup
The real question is, are the Turks orally servicing the Iranians, or is it the Iranians servicing the Turks?

Can you count pass 68?

Cheers!

8 posted on 06/28/2010 3:50:51 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: mkjessup
The real question is, are the Turks orally servicing the Iranians, or is it the Iranians servicing the Turks?

Can you count past 68?

Cheers!

9 posted on 06/28/2010 3:51:02 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

When do the Turks start letting the Iranians use Israeli-made drones and Israeli enhanced F-4 Phantoms? Time for Israel to start supporting the PKK and stop drinking “Turkish” coffee. Time for the tastier “Amrmenian” coffee...


10 posted on 06/28/2010 3:54:22 AM PDT by Netz
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To: sonofstrangelove
The Turks are increasing the likelihood that Israel will strike at Iran. The more insecure the Israelis feel, the less likely they are to sit idly by as they are hemmed in and more and more a sitting duck for their enemies.

I predict serious fireworks, perhaps even atomic fireworks, in the Middle East this summer.

11 posted on 06/28/2010 4:14:05 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Persae Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Oh yeah? Well, let’s send an air flotilla to break their siege.

In all seriousness, this probably is what was planned from the beginning, and the flotilla was just a calculated excuse to close the airspace. The Turks were surely nervous about confronting Iran, and poked Israel to get some nice alibi to not get involved. The saber rattling matches quite well.


12 posted on 06/28/2010 4:14:43 AM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: grey_whiskers
Can you count past 68?

LOL, I'm sure the Turks and those Persian pricks can!
13 posted on 06/28/2010 4:39:03 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: mkjessup
The real question is, are the Turks orally servicing the Iranians, or is it the Iranians servicing the Turks?

Iran is the top in that relationship.

14 posted on 06/28/2010 5:09:08 AM PDT by AU72
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15 posted on 06/28/2010 5:11:56 AM PDT by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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To: sonofstrangelove
The Israeli military "refrained from responding officially to the event so not to exacerbate the rift in relations,"

What a sad, so typical in today's World, Western response to Islam.

Turkey won't allow Israeli soldiers to just fly over their nation on the way to a memorial at Auschwitz. Standard Islamic a**hole behavior even where for decades Israel did everything and anything to prove its friendship to Turkey.

But hey, we can't call them on their a**hole behavior because that might "exacerbate the rift" and they will be, what, even bigger a**holes.

16 posted on 06/28/2010 5:14:12 AM PDT by HearMe
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To: sonofstrangelove
At the end of the 19th century, the dying, debt-ridden Turkey (the Ottoman Empire) was known as "the sick man of Europe".

Today, Turkey is again mentally and morally sick although this time it's because the country is under the control of militant Islamists. Today, Turkey, once again, is a danger to the world.

Europe, itself, has been sick for a long time. Twice, our country has had to step in to save it from pugnacious militarism, fascism and communism.

Today, due to the rampant socialism and economic meltdown forced on us under the iron rule of the Obama administration, the U.S. is rapidly become the "sick man of North America". We are unable to do much either morally, militarily or economically to stem the combined aggressive alliances of Islam such as that today between Turkey and Iran.

Obama, his addlepated secretary of state, his pro-Islam state department, and his red-tinged cabinet, ambassadors, czars and administration have the ability to only mouth slick but ineffective words regarding the Middle East crisis.

The U.S. as a country, is now too "sick" to do anything about anything, except watch the gathering war storms on the horizon......and feebly sit by as its citizenry desperately prays for a new doctor and staff to arrive on the scene to resuscitate it.

Leni

17 posted on 06/28/2010 5:41:36 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Prole
I'm still waiting on the Turks to give back Constantinople

To whom? The Byzantine Empire? You have a mailing address for those guys?

18 posted on 06/28/2010 5:48:59 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: MinuteGal

I would substitute the word ‘corrupt’ for ‘sick’ {too liberal a term} but otherwise find your post superb!!!


19 posted on 06/28/2010 6:25:11 AM PDT by righteousindignation
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To: sonofstrangelove

The Turks can’t stop a one off Israeli overflight. They do not have the ability.


20 posted on 06/28/2010 7:04:24 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is a fascist... ...He meets every diagnostic of history)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Since Turkey is now oriented away from the West, we should in turn support the establishment of a Kurdish state. THAT would garner the Turks’ attention!


21 posted on 06/28/2010 7:05:41 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Prole

The vampire Turkmen can never repay what they have looted and stolen from the righful owners of the land. They can never be forgiven for the horrors they perpetrated on the Christian populations of Asia minor - 4 million dead. They could start by the restitution and reparations to the survivors of the genocide of 1915-1923.

They will not. They are Muslims and Muslims do not do ask for forgiveness from infidels.


22 posted on 06/28/2010 7:10:22 AM PDT by eleni121 (But now, he that has a moneybag take it; without a sword let him sell his garment, and buy one.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

The House of Togarmah continues to act as one would expect


23 posted on 06/28/2010 9:14:06 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: jonrick46

Actually, they couldn’t. Iraq might have a problem with it, irregardless of Obama. Best thing is to just have a carrier group (does Israel have those?) just outside the Gulf, and fly ‘em straight in.


24 posted on 06/28/2010 10:03:56 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( Two-state solution: A bad idea whose time has gone.)
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To: jonrick46

As a practical matter, I suspect in a war-time situation Israel can fly anywhere it damn well pleases. I think they demonstrated that in the Syria raid a while back. The only one that could stop Israel is the US, and I think Bibi is smart enough to plan for October and bet that Zero has neither the balls nor the control of the military to deploy US forces against Israel, short of Israel directly attacking US interests (and Israel has even gotten away with that is the past - see the USS Liberty). Especially not the month before an election where things aren’t exactly looking good for the ‘Rats.


25 posted on 06/28/2010 10:27:26 AM PDT by In Maryland ("Impromptu Obamanomics is getting scarier by the day ..." - Caroline Baum)
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To: MinuteGal

If it weren’t for the Cold War and Turkey’s presence next to the Soviet Union, they would already have gone under. Even with our massive military support they fell on hard times and stayed there.


26 posted on 06/28/2010 12:56:29 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: MinuteGal

What a great post MinuteGal!
Eloquent and correct in every respect :-)


27 posted on 06/28/2010 1:09:06 PM PDT by Bobalu ( "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother." ..Moshe Dayan:)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Turkey is now lost.They've gone 9th Century on us.They've gone to The Dark Side.
28 posted on 06/28/2010 3:16:14 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Candor7

The Turkish Air Force has 930 airplanes in its inventory. Thrd in NATO in terms of fleet size, behind the USAF and RAF.Turkey is one of five NATO member states which are part of the nuclear sharing policy of the alliance, together with Belgium, Germany, Italy and the Netherlands. A total of 90 B61 nuclear bombs are hosted at the Incirlik Air Base, 40 of which are allocated for use by the Turkish Air Force in case of a nuclear conflict, but their use requires the approval of NATO.


29 posted on 06/28/2010 10:21:48 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ( "Fortes fortuna adiuvat"-Fortune Favors the Strong)
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To: Alter Kaker
To whom? The Byzantine Empire? You have a mailing address for those guys?

The Eastern Orthodox Church and other fellow Christians deserve to have what the Muslims stole from them.

30 posted on 06/28/2010 11:15:11 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: Prole
The Eastern Orthodox Church and other fellow Christians deserve to have what the Muslims stole from them.

Constantinople was conquered 550 years ago. If Christians deserve "reparations" for lands conquered 550 years ago, then there are a hell of a lot of people on every continent who deserve reparations as well, including Americans Indians. No dice -- unless you want to give North America back to the Iroquois.

31 posted on 06/29/2010 8:48:31 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: jonrick46
If Israel was attacking Iran, they could go over Iraq. In fact, they could refuel in Iraq.

I think the point is more that, up until recently Israeli pilots could train over Iraq. As magnificent a country as Israel is, their small size means that conducting air force exercises is difficult, other than at sea where who knows waht or who may observe them. In terms of attacking Iran, it's irrelevant - if Israel's military history teaches us anything, it's that they will do what they have to to get the job done, whether that entails crossing neutral or supposedly friendly airspace or not. Israel's military thinking is always sound, although their dipacy and peacetime thinking often lacks that rigour.

32 posted on 06/29/2010 9:53:16 AM PDT by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Time to revoke their NATO membership and retrieve those 90 B61 nuclear bombs.


33 posted on 06/29/2010 1:35:58 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Paul Ross

I have been actively advocating this for years


34 posted on 06/29/2010 8:16:19 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ( "Fortes fortuna adiuvat"-Fortune Favors the Strong)
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