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Why Cloward-Piven Will Eat Itself
American Thinker ^ | July 03, 2010 | Hoss Varad

Posted on 07/03/2010 12:34:50 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: Daisyjane69
cf this song.

There will be regional differences as well.

What the Communists don't understand -- unless they have plotted *far* deeper than anyone thought, say at the level of (dang it, can't find the link [*]) -- is that Americans will *fight back*.

[*] within the last month or two I read a harrowing account of the Communists in either Korea or Vietnam, where they temporarily overran a town and were driven out after three or four days: but in that short time they had killed thousands of people, almost all of whom were either known anti-Communists, or in a position to influence opinion against the Communists by having the ear of "everyman", such as taxi-drivers, etc. The Communists were able to do this since their stooges in the town had taken years to compile lists of targets and personal information about them.

Cheers!

41 posted on 07/03/2010 7:09:46 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Rearden
Wouldn’t you agree that we are seeing Cloward-Pliven in action right now in this county? It seems as if our current government doesn’t mind working overtime at the moment destroying everything in the country that we need in order to support ourselves and remain an independent people.

Absolutely I agree that is the goal of what we're seeing from many politicians currently.

I'm not sure there is a solution that would be so obvious that they'd abandon their plans, but I suspect if there were such a thing it'd be a condition where it is clear they wouldn't have the upper hand in the power vacuum aftermath of the collapse they seek to cause.

The deal is, I think there already is, at a minimum, competition to fill that vacuum from American groups such as the Tea party folks...but liberals are typically self deluded and rather blind and dense. So it would have to be very obvious to them (which is a high threshold) that they will fail in the aftermath.

For the time being I think conservatives need to strengthen their connections in their local communities. Many already have, we are, after all, average Americans. But it is, I believe, from this strong local community base that will be the building blocks of society and resistance to the tyranny the left seeks to impose.

42 posted on 07/03/2010 7:28:28 AM PDT by highlander_UW (The left proclaimed Obama as a Lightworker, but his work habit proclaims him to be a light worker)
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To: TigersEye
As I understand it, the goal is to collapse the government, forcing a military takeover that enslaves the entire populace as an emergency measure. The free ride for the parasites comes to an abrupt halt, as well as that pesky liberty that both the producers and the parasites currently enjoy.
43 posted on 07/03/2010 7:40:53 AM PDT by gitmo ( The democRats drew first blood. It's our turn now.)
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To: downwdims
There’s fewer of them than us. And we have the benefit of actual weapons training.

They are counting on a military blindly following orders during the emergency lockdown of the nation.

44 posted on 07/03/2010 7:43:48 AM PDT by gitmo ( The democRats drew first blood. It's our turn now.)
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To: downwdims

The writer and those believing his theory, forget that the agents of change, do not plan on maintaining a status quo in the echelon of power and governing. Every time something similar has taken place in history, you have mass starvation, police state, political purges, and serfdom. Our nation will look nothing like the one we live in now and by that time people will be weakened, disorganized, and unable to fight back.


45 posted on 07/03/2010 7:51:48 AM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: gitmo

There are only a few million in the military, if they imposed martial law how would they content with 10, 20, or 30 million snipers?


46 posted on 07/03/2010 8:16:05 AM PDT by east1234 (Cut, Kill, Dig and Drill!)
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To: east1234

I hope there ARE that many Americans who would take up arms to protect the nation. But I don’t see many people willing to emulate the Sons of Liberty in today’s world.


47 posted on 07/03/2010 8:26:17 AM PDT by gitmo ( The democRats drew first blood. It's our turn now.)
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To: highlander_UW
I believe, is that they will be the ones to pick up the pieces after they've destroyed the US.

Two words. Martial Law. That is the key to who winds up in charge, and they will have blue helmet help, count on it.

48 posted on 07/03/2010 8:57:06 AM PDT by itsahoot
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To: badgerlandjim

Good cartoon.

Bambi ain’t us.


49 posted on 07/03/2010 10:23:35 AM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: proud American in Canada

To you, too! and to all the good Americans here- wave that flag!!!


50 posted on 07/03/2010 10:25:00 AM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: highlander_UW
So the end will be, I think they will be successful in destroying the US, but they will fail in their attempt to take power. The result will be ugly.

They will be shot down in the streets or hanging on the end of ropes!

51 posted on 07/03/2010 11:42:11 AM PDT by painter (No wonder democrats don't mind taxes.THEY DON'T PAY THEM !)
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To: Clyde5445

I am expecting no elections in November. I hope and pray daily this will not happen.


52 posted on 07/03/2010 12:13:19 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: daisy mae for the usa

I think you’re too worried.
We’ll definitely have elections in November.

And we’ll have elections in 2012 (although Baraq may be the only candidate on the ballot)


53 posted on 07/03/2010 12:17:13 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: highlander_UW

Absolutely! Very well said, again.

I live in a very rural area in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia. My neighbors and I have a barter system that we set up a several years ago to keep out of sight of the government in our daily commerce between one another. One of the primary reasons for doing such was to be prepared in case we ever faced a situation with the government which we seem to be approaching right now.

It gives a small comfort at least that we might ignore much of the government mess right now and go about our business. Many in my community have relatives who made whiskey back in the day and were able to pretty much ignore the Yankee government we have never trusted. As long as they didn’t trade outside of the community, they were safe and were more or less invisible.


54 posted on 07/03/2010 12:20:54 PM PDT by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: nascarnation

Everyone tells me I’m wrong and I do want to be wrong. The thought keeps persisting, though. But, I’m not worried. I believe in this country and the founding principles. I agree with the person up thread who said Americans are fundamentally unable to accept anything less than freedom. But we do need to recognize that freedom must be defended. How, when, and where may still be up in the air, but it’s coming. Like everyone else, I’ll be doing my part when November gets here! You can count on that!


55 posted on 07/03/2010 12:24:33 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: Clyde5445
What I find amazing is some people think elections will be suspended due to a self created disaster.

The leftists don't have to suspend elections. All they have to do is corrupt them.

56 posted on 07/03/2010 12:32:00 PM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: itsahoot
Two words. Martial Law. That is the key to who winds up in charge, and they will have blue helmet help, count on it.

That very well may be their intent. If so, their hand may be forced by the fact that it looks like Obama will be consigned to the dung heap of history after one term. At this point it seems very unlikely that he'd win a second term. Obviously things may change (unlikely) or they may be able to sufficiently cheat as to override any voter response, although too far and it becomes very obvious. So that being said, if there was going to be martial law in response to some "Reichstag" type event (which I expect will be blamed on the Tea Party) it'll have to be within the next 2 1/2 years.

57 posted on 07/03/2010 12:48:46 PM PDT by highlander_UW (The left proclaimed Obama as a Lightworker, but his work habit proclaims him to be a light worker)
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To: painter
They will be shot down in the streets or hanging on the end of ropes!

Civil war with people being shot down in the streets and hanged is part of the "ugly" end I referred to. Historically, there have been very few nice and clean civil wars.

58 posted on 07/03/2010 12:50:17 PM PDT by highlander_UW (The left proclaimed Obama as a Lightworker, but his work habit proclaims him to be a light worker)
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To: vanilla swirl

Our county in WA was ruled by the ultra liberal, leftists, actually from the local university for almost fifteen years. They started by suing the county for not enforcing the state growth management act and proceeded by taking over the county council and moving beyond the requirements of the growth management act. Their big push was to not only limit growth, but to roll back growth and commercial development outside of urban boundaries, as well as limiting farming, especially farm animals.

Last year, we unseated the liberals on the county council and undid much of the chaos that they had brought to the county, not all of it, but a good bit. In addition to the land use issues, we fought off a monopoly of paramedic services by the city firefighters’ union.


59 posted on 07/03/2010 12:54:15 PM PDT by Eva (Aand)
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To: Rearden
Absolutely! Very well said, again.

Thanks, and it's reassuring to hear there are communities that are strongly knit together. as my handle implies, I attended the University of Washington, and I still live in the liberal hell hole. The state itself is one of the most beautiful in the nation, but the politics is down near the ugly end of the spectrum (although not as bad as IL, NJ or CA). I am currently looking for an opportunity (read that job and living arrangements) outside of the immediate Puget Sound area where I can find a community that is both a bit more conservative as well as more neighborly (which are probably related).

You may not be familiar with the political/geographic situation in WA, but there are 3 primary counties that are democrat, but they are the 3 most populous ones. The rest of the state is largely conservative...but they're out voted, and in some occasions just cheated in the elections, by the 3 big counties. ACORN was caught tampering with the election in WA previously.

60 posted on 07/03/2010 12:57:24 PM PDT by highlander_UW (The left proclaimed Obama as a Lightworker, but his work habit proclaims him to be a light worker)
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