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1 posted on 07/07/2010 8:31:00 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
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I rebutted this article here.
2 posted on 07/07/2010 8:32:00 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Whoever disagrees with me at any point is a RINO)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I dislike this argument.

Free speech does not mean free from consequence. One is free to say what one wishes, but must accept the consequences of such speech. In this case, the consequence is to be known for the inflammatory and anti-semitic commentary.

You don’t get to do what you want without the world responding.


3 posted on 07/07/2010 8:33:05 AM PDT by HushTX (quit whining)
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Helen simply made the mistake of allowing what she REALLY believes to slip out!! Leftists can’t AFFORD that. Unless, of course, they’re in congress or the Whitey House.


4 posted on 07/07/2010 8:34:58 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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Unfortunately, political correctness trumps freedom of speech in America. Conservatives have long complained that political correctness was destroying our First Amendment. Yet, conservatives were the first to call for Thomas's resignation. I don't know if it's just me, but I smell a little hypocrisy. Conservatives applaud Ann Coulter when she flippantly makes anti-Muslim comments (calling for the invasion of their country and conversion to Christianity) yet attack Helen Thomas for making anti-Semitic remarks. Boy, the smell of hypocrisy is getting stronger.

Of course, it all depends on whose ox is being gored..

5 posted on 07/07/2010 8:35:00 AM PDT by Riodacat (Voltaire: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.")
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It’s very rare for a liberal to suffer any consequences for hateful words. However, normal people get fired for saying innocent words that are twisted into hate speech. Macaca.
I’m glad this hateful anti-American witch got fired. Normal people suffer worse consequences.


6 posted on 07/07/2010 8:35:29 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (leftism: uncurable mental detioration)
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“POOF. There went Thomas’s job.”

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7 posted on 07/07/2010 8:40:06 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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Just curious....did Jamie Freeze write a similar article for Don Imus?


8 posted on 07/07/2010 8:40:47 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (DonÂ’t accept freedom, DEMAND IT!!!)
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She was not out of a job for the one statement.

It was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

She has an extreme nasty liberal bias problem. It finally took her down. It took way too long, but it took her down.

It’s like saying a man gets life in prison for shaking down a passerby for his wallet under California’s Three Strikes law. No, he doesn’t. He gets life in prison for being a habitual criminal. He no doubt committed hundreds if not thousands of crimes before that one. You just get to a point.


9 posted on 07/07/2010 8:40:53 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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Live by PC, die by PC.


10 posted on 07/07/2010 8:43:44 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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While I agree that Thomas's statement was inflammatory, insensitive, and just plain ignorant, I don't think she should have been forced to resign.

It is a free country. Thomas was free not to resign. Her company was free to refuse to continue distributing her stories. We're free to condemn her for the hate-filled troll that she is. Jamie Freeze is free to defend her. Isn't it nice when everything works out as it should?

11 posted on 07/07/2010 8:44:48 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Abraham Lincoln: For when it happened too long ago to blame on George W. Bush)
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Isn't it amazing how one fifteen-second-sound byte can bring a career to a grinding halt? I'm sure Helen Thomas is reflecting on that point even now. Gone are Helen Thomas's days of being a highly-respected news reporter.

The "soundbite" was as indefensible as Robert Byrd's continued use of the n-word (with the excuse that "there are white n*****rs too").

I didn't see Helen Thomas as a "highly-respected news reporter". She was a bitter liberal hag. She was not respectful of President Bush and others as well.

Dan Rather and Walter Cronkite were formerly "respected" until their true personas were revealed.

A journalist can be a jerk personally and still a good journalist, but when a journalist distorts reality and even fabricates "evidence" out of whole cloth to turn a war or an election, and the public becomes aware of it, they are disgraced.

12 posted on 07/07/2010 8:45:28 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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Good riddance to a disgusting (almost) human being.

Helen Thomas was a glittering jewel of colossal ignorance and a true illustration of the competency (or lack thereof) of our bottom of the SAT barrel “journalists”.


14 posted on 07/07/2010 8:47:54 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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Highly respected journalist ?

Helen Thomas journalistic integrity is to respectable journalism, as fart jokes are to humor


15 posted on 07/07/2010 8:47:54 AM PDT by daku
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Just keep in mind that her ideological enemies didn’t fire her. Her friends fired her.

Good to keep in mind from time to time.

The Hollywood blacklists? Hollywood blacklisting their pals.


16 posted on 07/07/2010 8:49:18 AM PDT by marron
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Trent Lott, pick up the white courtesy phone.


17 posted on 07/07/2010 8:50:18 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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Imus, Jimmy The Greek, Earl Butz, Rush on MNF . . . where were you then?


20 posted on 07/07/2010 8:53:10 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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The old witch got away with shooting off her mouth without consequences for so long she thought she was bullet proof. Don’t expect sympathy.


24 posted on 07/07/2010 8:59:54 AM PDT by chronicles
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America is still a free counry and Hellen Thomas is free to say anything she likes. That said, she must be willing to suffer the consequences of her statements because they reflect who and what she is.

Hellen Thomas has, by her statements, shown America and the world exactly what she is... she is nothing but an evil, Anti-Semitic witch who hates the Jews and who hates Israel and wants to see Israel destroyed/no longer exists and who wants the Jews dead!

Her statement: "Let the Jews return to Poland, let them return to Germany." = Translation: LET THE JEWS RETURN TO THE OVENS, LET THEM DIE!

As I said, Hellen Thomas is free to say what ever she likes. She has, and in doing so is now deservidly suffering the consequences of her statements because, even in our dumbed down society, words still mean something.

Because of what she has said (no one forced her to say it or put the words into her vile mouth), Hellen Thomas will be forever remembered as the Anti-Semitic hag who wants Jews dead and Israel destroyed. This is now, and will forever be her legacy.

31 posted on 07/07/2010 9:13:54 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Heavenly Father, deliver us from evil and from those perpetuating it, in Jesus name, amen.)
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33 posted on 07/07/2010 9:21:21 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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Conservatives applaud Ann Coulter when she flippantly makes anti-Muslim comments (calling for the invasion of their country and conversion to Christianity) yet attack Helen Thomas for making anti-Semitic remarks.

Jamie probably forgot that Coulter did lose her gig over at National Review over it.

But responding to Jamie's larger argument, I would say that yes, I essentially agreed with Coulter's remarks (written, you'll remember, in the aftermath of 911 and the death of her close friend). And I disagree with Thomas's remarks.

Coulter called for the invasion of the countries that attacked us. I agreed. She called for the death of the leaders of the attacks, and again I agreed. She called for the conversion of the muslim world to Christianity as the only real solution to Islam's notoriously bloody borders. Might be impolite to say but again I agree. She's right. Islam in the modern age is returning to its expansionist roots and is notoriously and sometimes viciously intolerant of other faiths.

Why did her friends fire her? I don't know. I wouldn't have, obviously. My best explanation is her explanation. The kids at National Review are girly men. Funny, I still read her and I don't often read them.

Thomas? She just said what most of the Left thinks. So why she would be fired escapes me, except that her friends didn't want their beliefs exposed so openly to a public that by and large doesn't agree.

I never read her and I don't often read them either. Firing her was a business decision. Was it right? Depends on the demographic you're trying to reach. If you are going for the anti-semite pro-jihadist Left, then she's a good addition to your stable of writers.

37 posted on 07/07/2010 9:58:54 AM PDT by marron
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