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Spy swap is 'all but unprecedented'
The Washington Post ^ | 08 July 2010 | Jeff Stein

Posted on 07/08/2010 3:18:13 PM PDT by Palter

John L. Martin supervised 76 espionage cases during his 26 years at the Justice Department, but he’s never seen one end like this one.

Martin said swapping spies who have not been sentenced to time in prison, much less served it, is "all but unprecedented."

Martin could recall only one case in which an accused spy was swapped without first being convicted and sentenced to prison.

Alice Michelson, a courier for the Soviet KGB, was arrested in late 1984, indicted on espionage charges, held without bail, and eventually exchanged in a deal for 25 Europeans accused of spying for the West in Eastern Europe.

"In this particular case I remember we held off the proceedings in court until the terms of the exchange were finalized" in 1985, Martin said in a telephone interview.

“For earlier exchanges, we worked for a number of years before we came up with a final number of people we would be willing to release,” among other considerations, he said.

"Both sides were doing that," he said of the Cold War era.

"We would arrest people, they would arrest people. As we arrested more people, the negotiations would intensify."

All of which makes the speed with which the latest case played out "absolutely unprecedented," he said.

Martin helped negotiate the release of Soviet dissident Anatoli Shcharansky in February 1986, which turned out to be the last time Moscow and Washington traded spies across the Glienicke Bridge linking East and West Germany

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia
KEYWORDS: coldwar; russia; spies
'"For the children who are native-born Americans, the Constitution confers American citizenship," he noted.

But evidence that their parents' citizenship was falsely obtained will complicate matters.

"Children who are foreign-born and whose parents used false documentation to obtain their child's citizenship, places the children in jeopardy in terms of their status," Martin said.

Those over 18 can decide for themselves what to do, unless they are here illegally.'

-Snicker--snicker

1 posted on 07/08/2010 3:18:15 PM PDT by Palter
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To: Palter

As Beck siad, maybe Newsweek got it right when they ran the cover with “We are all Socialists”......=.=


2 posted on 07/08/2010 3:19:41 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Palter

Citizenship aside, what is up with this?

These people were sentenced to time served...11 days.

And they are exchanged as SPIES?

Something isn’t adding up here.


3 posted on 07/08/2010 3:21:49 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Palter
In reality the Russian "illegals" weren't here as "illegal aliens" ~ rather they had authentic diplomatic status ~ just one that wasn't reported ~ as spies or foreign agents (of an as yet to be determined variety).

Their children ARE NOT CITIZENS.

That doesn't mean we should ship the kids home. Young Russian orphans are in great demand on the adoption circuit. Just seize the kids and give them to people who seek to adopt. The paperwork will be remarkably less burdensome Fur Shur.

And in the future the Russians will have a slightly harder time getting people to come here under the same circumstances.

4 posted on 07/08/2010 3:24:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Bryan24

“Even” trade - 11 for 1 ????
No investigation, trials?????


5 posted on 07/08/2010 3:25:50 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: Bryan24

You’re right....This had to be going on for a while....and Putin was trying to tell us something when he spoke about it with Bubba...and Hillary will say absolutely nothing....so who pulled the strings and why.


6 posted on 07/08/2010 3:26:10 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: Bryan24

GEE....wonder who is trying to PROTECT someone.....from being exposed.


7 posted on 07/08/2010 3:26:45 PM PDT by goodnesswins (DEMOCRATS LOSE.....America WINS!)
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To: Palter

Everything that happens under the Obamao Administration is “all but unprecedented.”


8 posted on 07/08/2010 3:27:25 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Bryan24
A spy swap makes it seem like it's 50-50 with the Russians.

No time for outrage so Obama's disarmament deals can go forward as planned.

9 posted on 07/08/2010 3:37:17 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Palter
I agree. This smells. The lesson Obama is giving here is...

- "ATTENTION ALL SPIES, don't worry, if you get caught - you'll get a free trip out of the country!"


10 posted on 07/08/2010 4:18:39 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Show me what Obama brought that was new and there you will find things only radical and destructive.)
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To: hennie pennie; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
Thanks Palter.
Martin could recall only one case in which an accused spy was swapped without first being convicted and sentenced to prison. Alice Michelson, a courier for the Soviet KGB, was arrested in late 1984, indicted on espionage charges, held without bail, and eventually exchanged in a deal for 25 Europeans accused of spying for the West in Eastern Europe.

11 posted on 07/08/2010 5:49:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv; Palter; cranked; Leo Carpathian; muawiyah; Bryan24; Sacajaweau; goodnesswins; ...
This was a good deal for some worthy work by some Russians over the years....see this;

Intrigue and Ambiguity in Cases of 4 Russians Sent to West in Spy Swap

12 posted on 07/09/2010 7:33:43 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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