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To: vladimir998

Lets not go there *please*

throughout history Catholics and Protestants have done really crappy things to each other... And if you want to talk about ‘traditional this or that take it to a theology thread’.

The left like to use Ireland as an example of Christian Terrorism but in truth of fact anyone with half a brain knows the only reason religion plays into it is because England is not Catholic.

Even if England and Ireland were both Catholic/Prot there would still be blood in the streets because England would have invaded and beaten Ireland would have stayed there and would have had partisans marching every year to commemorate the defeat...

This is not a religious struggle, this one is geo political.


9 posted on 07/13/2010 10:42:37 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: N3WBI3

You wrote:

“Lets not go there *please*”

I’ll go where I like, thanks.

“throughout history Catholics and Protestants have done really crappy things to each other... And if you want to talk about ‘traditional this or that take it to a theology thread’.”

Take your complaining elsewhere. My points were valid. Disagree all you like, but don’t tell me to not state my opinions. This is FreeRepublic not N3WBI3’s Dictatorship.

“The left like to use Ireland as an example of Christian Terrorism but in truth of fact anyone with half a brain knows the only reason religion plays into it is because England is not Catholic.”

Actually the left rarely uses Ireland as an example of “Christian Terrorism”. They instead use Ireland as an example of British oppression of a native people (and not without merit either). The left rarely examines the theological differences between Catholics and Protestants and instead focuses - and I think correctly - on the historical nature of the feud.

“Even if England and Ireland were both Catholic/Prot there would still be blood in the streets because England would have invaded and beaten Ireland would have stayed there and would have had partisans marching every year to commemorate the defeat...”

Nope. The reason for the invasion, occupation, repression, rebellion, and the marches is ultimately religion. Where are the British marches in Scotland? Wales? There are none. Why not? Because, even though they are different peoples, they share the same faith and ultimately bent their knees to the same Protestant crown, Protestant law and Protestant army. Ireland is different than Scotland and Wales. They are all Celts. They all live in rather poor lands. They all fought the English for centuries and centuries. So, why are the Irish different? Because they stayed Catholic.

“This is not a religious struggle, this one is geo political.”

It started in religious turmoil.


15 posted on 07/13/2010 10:52:37 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: N3WBI3
This is not a religious struggle, this one is geo political.

Thank you! For years people having been trying to paint this as religous conflict. While the sides do tend to split along religous lines neither side is fighting to convert the other or for other religous reasons. This was a fight about nationality and identity.


45 posted on 07/13/2010 12:39:40 PM PDT by elc
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To: N3WBI3

England was Catholic until Henry VIII decided he wanted to get divorced and remarried.


88 posted on 07/13/2010 3:22:53 PM PDT by BenKenobi (I want to hear more about Sam! Samwise the stouthearted!)
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