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New Ariz. Poll Shows Mccain Leading GOP Challenger (64 percent to 19)
http://www.newsmax.com ^ | 14 Jul 2010 | www.newsmax.com

Posted on 07/14/2010 1:17:33 PM PDT by Maelstorm

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To: Maelstorm

C’mon, Arizona. We Utahans got rid of Bennett (Hatch is next). The LEAST you can do is get rid of squishy Juan.


101 posted on 07/14/2010 8:42:13 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("Allahu Akbar!": Arabic for "Nothing to see here." -- Mark Steyn)
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To: norge; TexasCajun

You’re right. After all, the country knows Sarah Palin’s endorsements only turn off conservative voters.

Sarah’s a joke, right norge?


102 posted on 07/14/2010 8:44:25 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (The NAACP is a bunch of cracker-hating bigots and I condemn the NAACP for being a racist element.)
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To: Americanexpat

Exactly. Sarah Palin hasn’t been able to help a single person with her endorsements at any time.


103 posted on 07/14/2010 8:47:06 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (The NAACP is a bunch of cracker-hating bigots and I condemn the NAACP for being a racist element.)
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To: Maelstorm

Plenty of real Conservatives left we can help:

https://www.senateconservatives.com/site/contribute?c=2G16R6PGRE


104 posted on 07/14/2010 8:48:32 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (drain the swamp! ( then napalm it and pave it over ))
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To: Maelstorm
Polls can and do come up with all sorts of "statistics," and this one just might be close, though with that much margin, and knowing just how upset AZs are with the state of illegals sapping all the energy out of their state, this seems out of balance.

I'm wondering the percentage of GOPers; dims; indys, the parts of the state quizzed but mostly, whether or not the pollster chose "likely primary voters," i.e. a tab of those who've voted in the past 2 or 3 primaries, not merely registered voters or worse yet, someone who answered the phone.

There's just too much anger over lack of political will to shut borders, punishing employers who recruit and hire illegals, not to mention all those kidnappings (though Sheriff Joe Arpaio said last night, it was mostly happening in the illegal communities), for McLame to be so far out front. Something seems amiss in this poll finding.

105 posted on 07/14/2010 8:49:51 PM PDT by zerosix
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Right! She’s not ready but they are certain of her powers over AZ voters. Over the top powerful but not ready! LOL!


106 posted on 07/14/2010 9:01:36 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Hatch is to UT as McPain is to AZ, but the two have an intense dislike for each other, I understand.


107 posted on 07/14/2010 9:05:57 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America can survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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To: Prokopton
Palin has more clout with Republican voters than any other national figure.

Some posters claim she'll only bring in 20% compared to another R candidate. Now she's powerful and other times no one wants her or she isn't ready, etc.

Fun to watch.
108 posted on 07/14/2010 9:08:10 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Maelstorm

This bogus poll is meant to discourage Hayworth supporters. I don’t buy it. People hate McCain out here. Not one vote has been cast yet. Get to work and send money!


109 posted on 07/14/2010 9:09:55 PM PDT by Bizhvywt
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To: JmyBryan

Hayworth is a clown? What are you a McCain plant that needs watering?


110 posted on 07/14/2010 9:12:23 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: AZhardliner

Can you give us an AZ view on where the voters stand on this election?


111 posted on 07/14/2010 9:15:53 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Da Coyote
"Even against the Obamaidiot."

Humm, isn't that how we got here?

112 posted on 07/14/2010 9:18:18 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

The Federal Government has too much power giving incumbent Federal Congressmen too much money from the sale of their power.

Its dam near unthinkable that we the people would be able to weld the federal tools as to reduce federal power or otherwise do something that hurts their real contributers.

We not only have the natural inclination of federal politicians working against us, we also have a nearly insurmountable incumbent advantage.

As I have said many times before. If we are going to solve this problem its going to have to come from our state and local governments forcefully removing power from the ground up. Hiting this directly will only continue to prove as futile as it always has proved.

My proposal is not an easy path to walk as we will have to deal with the full might of the Federal Power apparatus which we can no longer weld struggling to hold on to the valuable power they have accumulated. That includes their courts. At the end of the day we are going to have to play State and local interest against them. Uses them as our ally to help us push down the Federal monster from the outside so that it may become more manageable from the inside.

We do this and you will find that congress will become more amendable to our goals, as the reality of the fact that they are not practically able to defend that power sets in. Our Federal leaders will look else where for political support and that elsewhere will be the interest of the voters.

In other-words they will more realistically cave for political points as they are no loner able to win the battle for valuable political power.


113 posted on 07/14/2010 9:20:35 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Bizhvywt
This bogus poll is meant to discourage Hayworth supporters. I don’t buy it. People hate McCain out here. Not one vote has been cast yet. Get to work and send money!

OK - I'll take the word from a freeper living in AZ than from any propaganda poll!

THANKS!
114 posted on 07/14/2010 9:23:02 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Theodore R.

I’m leaning in your direction, but I’m still holding out hope.

I am a realist though.


115 posted on 07/14/2010 9:33:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If McCain is a Conservative, there are no Leftists. Not Teddy K., John K., George S., Russel F...)
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To: Prokopton
Who do you think has more clout with Republican voters? Whose endorsement would Republican Candidates want more than Palin's?

Your questions are irrelevant. McCain is not a newcomer or a Tea Party candidate who is an underdog. Therefore, the voters in AZ aren't going to be influenced by her supporting McCain because they expected it all along.

Sarah supporters knew far in advance that she was going to endorse and campaign for McCain. We didn't like it, and there was healthy debate about it. I posted a vanity complaining about it too.

But in the end, she's not going to change her mind about it so who is making it an issue? It's those who need a strawman to keep on hand in case of a McCain victory. It's those who were never supporters of Sarah to begin with. You can argue about whether or not her endorsement of McCain was good or bad but in the end, she has no control over your vote. It is up to the people of AZ to boot McCain out of office, not her.

116 posted on 07/14/2010 9:43:08 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: Americanexpat
Sarah Palin isn’t responsible for reelecting McCain no matter how many times shebacks him.

Like I said, Palin detractors are desperately cooking up a strawman in the event of a McCain victory. They don't support her anyway, had she remained on the sidelines and said nothing, they still wouldn't have supported her because she actually ran with him. They are hyping the issue to knock her out of contention in 2012, that's all.

117 posted on 07/14/2010 9:46:58 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: Gun142
When other candidates (mostly front runners) she supported won their nomination, many folks on FR claimed it was due to her.

Candidates such as Haley and Carly weren't "front runners." They were stuck in neutral until Palin's endorsement.

If McCain wins, let’s see how many people here recognize her endorsement for his success the way they did in the other races.

Sorry bub, it's not the same. She ran with McCain and the conventional wisdom told you it was going to be a no-brainer for her to endorse him. Everybody knew this was going to happen, except for disgruntled types who are only making it an issue out of their dislike for Palin.

I think it was a mistake for her to endorse McCain.

I do too, but in the end what can you do about it. You can continue to gripe about it or simply go out and double your efforts to support the other guy. Why are you letting an endorsement get to you? Conservatives are supposed to be independent thinkers, right?

118 posted on 07/14/2010 9:52:44 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: Maelstorm

TERM LIMITS DAMN IT TERM LIMITS DAMN IT TERM LIMITS DAMN IT TERM LIMITS DAMN IT TERM LIMITS DAMN IT TERM LIMITS DAMN IT TERM LIMITS DAMN IT TERM LIMITS DAMN IT TERM LIMITS DAMN IT TERM LIMITS DAMN IT TERM LIMITS DAMN IT TERM LIMITS DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


119 posted on 07/14/2010 9:53:08 PM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)
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To: mojitojoe

Term limits are no a panacea. My evidence? The California state legislature.


120 posted on 07/14/2010 9:54:09 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: TexasCajun
‘I love Sarah Palin but she will be responsible for giving the Republican Party 6 more years of hemorrhoids should the gelding win.’

If Sarah Palin is so powerful that she can do this, then she is completely undefeatable, and will be a lock for President.

121 posted on 07/14/2010 10:03:38 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Good night. I expect more respect tomorrow - Danny H (RIP))
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Are Arizona Republicans as stupid as California Republicans? The results will be telling.

Arizona Republicans ARE California Republicans. They're abandoning the state they ruined and are coming here in droves so they can ruin Arizona as well.

122 posted on 07/14/2010 10:45:28 PM PDT by ponygirl
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To: upsdriver
JD really thought he was gonna get some traction with his “McCain is distorting my record” and “Rothstein is a bigger crook than Abramoff” strategy. Next week JD’s gonna remind AZ voters about McCain's involvement with campaign finance reform and Charles Keeting.
123 posted on 07/14/2010 10:57:33 PM PDT by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican for Palin)
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To: presently no screen name

Four voters in our household who are voting against McCain. I don’t know anyone who is voting for McCain, except one lone person in our neighborhood with sign in front.


124 posted on 07/14/2010 11:03:43 PM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: Maelstorm

Now all McCain needs is that lovable thick hottie, Sarah Palin to strut around for him, and it’ll be a huge win/save for the Bringer of Barry!

Americans, fresh off their biggest brain-fart in history seek to top their stupidity with a RINO-Roundup of monumental proportions.

Welcome to RINOFEST ‘10!


125 posted on 07/14/2010 11:08:17 PM PDT by Boucheau
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To: Suz in AZ

THANK YOU for the encouragement!

AZ votes are really for our country - not just AZ. That’s how important AZ voters are!


126 posted on 07/14/2010 11:14:54 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Maelstorm

This is a direct quote from the latest Rasmussen poll and writeup:

“The two men are also tied among conservative voters.

McCain is viewed Very Favorably by 30% of GOP voters in Arizona and Very Unfavorably by 11%.

Hayworth’s marks are 24% Very Favorable and 24% Very Unfavorable.”


127 posted on 07/14/2010 11:33:12 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Maelstorm

>> Title: AZ Poll Shows Mccain Leading GOP Challenger (64 percent to 19)

>> Maelstorm: Looks like the “Free Money Govt Money” infomercial didn’t help.

They mock the free market to their peril - ignorant fools unable to differentiate infomercials from legislative tyranny. To hell with them!

Perhaps AZ’s judgment on illegal immigration deserves the criticism it’s getting after all.


128 posted on 07/14/2010 11:39:29 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Yup, and it’s so strong you can smell it whilst upwind!


129 posted on 07/15/2010 2:08:52 AM PDT by snuffy smiff (imagine if the GOP grew a brain-and threw all RINOs OUT! But that would also require a spine *sigh*)
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To: TexasCajun
I love Sarah Palin but she will be responsible...should the gelding win.

I agree. Her endorsement of Hayworth would have made all the difference. This indicates a tone deafness on her part which does not bode well.

130 posted on 07/15/2010 2:18:18 AM PDT by giotto
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To: McGavin999

No, it wasn’t for nothing. He had to spend $20 million to convince everyone he was more conservative then JD. BTW, that’s money you and I gave to help in the campaign against Obama. McCain had it “left over” so he spent it taking down JD.
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The sad thing is had he spent that money fighting 0bama and had he mounted such a tough battle against 0bama as he has against J.D. maybe we wouldn’t be cursed with 0bama as Pres—ent!

He’ll go all out to keep his Senate seat but acts like a whipped dog when running for the highest office in the land! Please folks from AZ don’t get sucked in by him again.


131 posted on 07/15/2010 3:35:42 AM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discover" Sarah Palin)
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To: jla

Perhaps Duncan Hunter and Jim DeMint should have campaigned strongly for Hayworth then he would be sitting on a 64pc favorable, right?
Which begs the question, why haven’t more conservative pols been conspicuously supportive of Hayworth?
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I’d say because McCain is owed a lot of favors and he’s calling them in this time, every single one.

He has fought tooth and nail spewing lies and distortions in ad after ad. He started running ads against Hayworth before Hayworth said he was running!

McLame wouldn’t attach Zero on real things like Bill Ayers, his radical friends, his lack of experience, etc. etc. but he’s fighting to the death for his Senate seat.


132 posted on 07/15/2010 3:40:23 AM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discover" Sarah Palin)
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To: ModelBreaker

Yep, after the primary, McShame will take a hard left turn.


133 posted on 07/15/2010 3:43:38 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I guess you missed the McCain - Palin love fest where she said that John was what the tea parties were all about. (barf)


134 posted on 07/15/2010 3:46:06 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: Maelstorm

Just when we thought AZ was getting it together....


135 posted on 07/15/2010 3:59:13 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: SunkenCiv

The poll is not primary-focused. It was weighted. And yes, after all of my opposition research of McStain, I would be surprised if that poll were accurate.


136 posted on 07/15/2010 4:02:53 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (It takes courage to stay on Monster Ping. [Link in profile.])
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

More likely the poll was bought and paid for by liberal interests. I’d bet they are “helping” McCain so that the GOP will stay home in AZ in November.


137 posted on 07/15/2010 4:50:25 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: jla
Because despite all the experts here, hayworth is just odd. Creepy.
138 posted on 07/15/2010 4:58:17 AM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: jackv

Please explain in detail how he is more odd and creepy than McCain.


139 posted on 07/15/2010 5:04:52 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

McCain handed your country to the Democrats and Obama through MCCain Feingold. It will never be the same. Hopefully the people in AZ understand that. McCain is also for amnesty and is tied to Soros. I still think he will lose.


140 posted on 07/15/2010 5:18:30 AM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: ConservativeMind
After all, the country knows Sarah Palin’s endorsements only turn off conservative voters.

Huh? That joke is as bad as Mitt Romney himself.

141 posted on 07/15/2010 5:31:56 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: ConservativeMind
After all, the country knows Sarah Palin’s endorsements only turn off conservative voters.

Huh? That joke is as bad as Mitt Romney himself.

142 posted on 07/15/2010 5:32:07 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: BP2
Sounds like the pollsters contacted people who were at home sucking on the Welfare teat,

Wouldn't surprise me in the least.

143 posted on 07/15/2010 5:59:08 AM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: TexasCajun

So you admit Sarah’s endorsement and constant ads running help McCain?

You are the one with the joke.


144 posted on 07/15/2010 6:02:35 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (The NAACP is a bunch of cracker-hating bigots and I condemn the NAACP for being a racist element.)
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To: DoughtyOne; Mr. K

“Ouch. That number seven is a killer. “

You mean this one?

I just came from 6 months in AZ and found not one single McLame supporter

7 posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:21:46 PM by Mr. K

I live here, and at least nobody I know will ADMIT to being for McCain.


145 posted on 07/15/2010 6:28:22 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our Troops, and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: MBB1984

No, that’s my opinion, and apparently not just mine, by the polls.


146 posted on 07/15/2010 6:34:33 AM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: McGavin999

I sent the campaign some money after Palin joined. I now get spammed regularly by McCain, I think even after asking to be removed from their list.


147 posted on 07/15/2010 6:43:21 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Maelstorm

How can Arizonans be so smart with Brewer but so dumb with McCain?


148 posted on 07/15/2010 6:51:49 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Frantzie
Well, I hope you're right.
149 posted on 07/15/2010 6:57:18 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (The success of Darwinism was accompanied by a decline in scientific integrity. - Dr. Wm R. Thompson)
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To: for-q-clinton

It seems fairly obvious that Arizonians don’t like the Mc Cain alternative. He becomes the smart choice when there is nothing perceived as better


150 posted on 07/15/2010 6:57:32 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... The winds of war are freshening)
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