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Man jailed by courts after courts bankrupt him
National Post ^ | June 21, 2010 | Matt Gurney

Posted on 07/17/2010 3:33:31 PM PDT by RogerFGay

Jeff Dolan spent Father’s Day in jail, locked away for failure to pay child support. Deadbeat dads don’t garner a lot of sympathy. But you don’t need to study Jeff’s case for long before you realize that he’s anything but a deadbeat. Instead, he’s a man hopelessly ensnared in a crushing bureaucratic machine: He’s in jail because he couldn’t pay child support, but he couldn’t pay child support because he was unemployed … and he was unemployed because the court took his driver’s license for failure to pay child support … after he went bankrupt paying his court costs.

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To: ErnBatavia

There are very good, logical reasons to elminate debtor prison sentences.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debtors’_prison

First and foremost, how does one make enough money to pay debts while in prison?

Now consider that most debtor’s prisons charged the debtors for their room and board. It is a hole from which you cannot escape, unless you already have the ability to pay the debt and the trumped up debts that accompany your prison term.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m no friend to deadbeats of any kind. But debtor prisons are blunt instruments that can be used by bureaucrats to hurt any single one of us.


21 posted on 07/17/2010 4:56:00 PM PDT by laxcoach (Government is greedy. Taxpayers who want their own money are not greedy.)
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To: RogerFGay

So — debtor’s prisons are a thing of the past?


22 posted on 07/17/2010 5:05:22 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: MrPiper
Ah yes,, the joys of fatherhood....!!!!!!!!NOT!!!! the very reason I never procreated!

You and me both. At age 18 I knew that I wanted nothing to do with fatherhood, and this is among the several reasons I had for that decision. By then, I already knew of relatives who had been taken to the cleaners on child support.

23 posted on 07/17/2010 5:14:33 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum
You and me both. At age 18 I knew that I wanted nothing to do with fatherhood,

Yep,, I'm almost 60 now,, still very glad I did not have kids,,,can't miss what you never had.

With today's move to socialism and vampy women,,even more happy to not have kids!!!!!!!Ps,,,, I think I will get drunk tonight and smoke my pipe..... who's to complain...PSSS...You would not believe the old women chasing me :-)

24 posted on 07/17/2010 5:22:23 PM PDT by MrPiper
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To: coon2000
I think the US government and the federal no reserve should go to jail.
#1 The us government can't pay the loan because they never had the money in the budget to begin with unless they lied.
#2 The federal no reserve never had the money to loan to begin with.
#3 Both parties are guilty of FRAUD!
25 posted on 07/17/2010 5:37:55 PM PDT by taxtruth (Something really stinks In The Federal Government/Mafia and I think it's BO!)
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To: MrPiper

I can’t think why.


26 posted on 07/17/2010 5:39:03 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (If my body dies, then let it die, but let my country live.)
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To: MrPiper
What are smoking in that pipe?
27 posted on 07/17/2010 5:43:10 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (Gus the Scotty dog likes cheese!)
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To: 4yearlurker
What are smoking in that pipe?

believe it or not.. I smoke the stuff sold at Walgreens.... I mix my own blend....

28 posted on 07/17/2010 5:45:51 PM PDT by MrPiper
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To: Shimmer1
I can’t think why.

Are you fore or against me getting drunk tonight???........just curious......

29 posted on 07/17/2010 5:54:14 PM PDT by MrPiper
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To: MrPiper
believe it or not.. I smoke the stuff sold at Walgreens.... I mix my own blend....

I had an uncle who had a pipe in his mouth every waking hour of the day.

He could switch the pipe from one side to the other side of his mouth using only his lips in a fluid rolling motion, it was amazing to see....smoked Mixture #79

30 posted on 07/17/2010 6:01:00 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Shimmer1
I can’t think why.

what would a women want with me???

31 posted on 07/17/2010 6:21:30 PM PDT by MrPiper
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To: MrPiper

$$$$$$$$$ from all the $$ you didn’t spend on your kids, methinks


32 posted on 07/17/2010 6:27:17 PM PDT by tweakDU
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To: RogerFGay

Much like everything else the government lays hands on - kneejerk reactions and over-arching rules/laws cause more harm than good.

I have heard many stories like the one here - Divorce, custody battle, mother gets kids and fat child support judgment. Father looses job, can’t make support payments, lose driver’s license, etc. The story is growing more common.

But again - I also know mothers who can’t get child support or even a fair child support ruling - and the fathers DO have jobs, but don’t pay their fair share.

Typical government heavy-handed inefficiency.

My step-father had children with his first wife. She was actually abusive, but the courts in Michigan have never been known as particularly “just”. His ex ended up with custody and a HUGE child support judgment (this was back in the mid 70’s). He moved to Florida, but continued to make appropriate payments. This was before some states became the clearing house for such payments. She claimed he didn’t make a bunch of payments. She then started calling him at work to harass him for money, eventually talking to his employer and lying - eventually causing my step-father to lose his job. Kind of hard to continue making those child support payments when the person you are paying them too causes you to lose your job... Then he resumed payments when he found new employment. But again, his ex began calling and causing trouble. He now really was somewhat behind in his child support. By now, the kids were nearly grown. When they all had turned 18, he stopped making payments.

Then my step-father married my mother (after moving to another state). He finally hadn’t heard anything... and suddenly began receiving legal documents from his previous two states of residence (FL and MI). Basically, there were threats along these lines in this article. His ex had filed some sort of complaint for back child support - both from the times she had caused him to lose his job, and those times she claimed he hadn’t made payments before that. Despite having canceled checks for the earlier time, it was ruled that he owed over $20K. After all was said and done, his wages were garnished until every penny, with accumulated and ongoing interest included.


33 posted on 07/17/2010 6:33:12 PM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: TheConservativeParty
That evil woman (and I am a woman and I know evil when I see it) took him to the cleaners so she could be on easy street.

$22,000 bucks won't last somebody like that very long.

My bet is that it didn't even make a dent in her credit card debt.

34 posted on 07/17/2010 6:59:19 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

That’s what me and my friend were saying. The kind of person who would steal that much money from a good man, is probably capable of blowing it all in a very short time.


35 posted on 07/17/2010 7:15:08 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty (Everytime a democrat loses, a Moonbat gets its wings burned off.)
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To: J Edgar

The Franklin Cover-Up is a very disturbing. And you are right and it still goes on.


36 posted on 07/17/2010 8:17:03 PM PDT by FroedrickVonFreepenstein
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To: RogerFGay
I know a divorced lady who never got a dime of child support from the deadbeat who left her for another woman and made more little babies. She took the bus to work because she couldn't afford a crappy house AND a crappy car.

I'm not really feeling sorry for this guy. Someone let me know when he's living in a shelter with the kids.

37 posted on 07/17/2010 9:22:15 PM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: TNdandelion

Yes, all men everywhere should be made to suffer eternally for the bad behavior of a few. And as we know, all women everywhere are perfect little angels. All men are evil. All women are victims. All heterosexual behavior is rape ... lada lada lada ... blah, blah, blah.


38 posted on 07/17/2010 10:01:05 PM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay
I never said any of that and it's unfortunate that this is the only argument you could come up with.

I've heard alcoholics can find their way to a bar without driving a car and have no sympathy for any parent (male or female) that can't manage to support their children.

Take the bus, walk, ride a bike, get yo mama to haul your but to work...whatever.

39 posted on 07/17/2010 10:27:08 PM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: taxtruth

I agree with you 100%.


40 posted on 07/17/2010 10:56:37 PM PDT by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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