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Mass. may join effort to bypass Electoral College
Boston Globe ^ | July 19, 2010 | Martin Finucane

Posted on 07/19/2010 2:13:49 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

The state Legislature is poised to give final approval this week to a new law intended to bypass the Electoral College system and ensure that the winner of the presidential election is determined by the national popular vote.

Both the House and Senate have approved the National Popular Vote bill. Final enactment votes are needed in both chambers, however, before the bill goes to the governor's desk, the Globe reported last week.ss.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dictatorship; dnccorruption; massgeneralcourt; novote4u; obama; patrick; romney; southafrica
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Self-serving piggies in the Massachusetts General Court
would NEVER let the citizens vote (what is that?)
about RomneyCARE, gay marriage, or this BS.
Team Romney would not even allow a GOP primary this year.

They do whatever the New York Times
and their carpetbagging pimp order them to do.

21 posted on 07/19/2010 2:28:21 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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To: Maceman

Good for you Maceman!!!!!


22 posted on 07/19/2010 2:29:13 PM PDT by diamond6 (Pray the Rosary to defeat communism and Obamacare!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Without the electoral college, large cities will control and elect our Presidents.
Without the electoral college, a candidate will only have to campaign in cities like New York, LA, Philly, Pittsburgh and others. Rural and small town America will be at the mercy of a few large cities across the nation, as that is where the majority of the population resides.


23 posted on 07/19/2010 2:29:19 PM PDT by freemike (John Adams-Liberty must at all hazards be supported. We have a right to it, derived from our Maker)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Go ahead small state, flush any reason for a candidate to listen to even visit massachsetts.


24 posted on 07/19/2010 2:29:24 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The end of our country is here.


25 posted on 07/19/2010 2:29:39 PM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
This is great. They will always vote for the Democratic candidate, no matter what.

So these dopes will never ever be forced to switch to the Democratic candidate if the national vote goes that way.

This can only make them switch to Republican, instantly disenfranchising all the dopey liberals in their state.

Why vote at all Massachussetts? You dumbasses.

26 posted on 07/19/2010 2:30:44 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Parmy

Looks stupid to me. As a state that has been losing its population for over a decade they are just handing what little power it has away.

They might as well elimanate representation in the US Senate too.


27 posted on 07/19/2010 2:31:14 PM PDT by Sparky1776
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To: BenKenobi
No, it’s not. Congress protects the rights of the smaller states against the larger ones.

Congress? How so?

28 posted on 07/19/2010 2:31:38 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: bmwcyle

Jefferson was afraid of big-cities vs. the rural. He knew what happend in Europe..


29 posted on 07/19/2010 2:31:52 PM PDT by Mmogamer (<This space for lease>)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Any GOP votes likely to come out of this?


30 posted on 07/19/2010 2:32:24 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It’s really way too late.


31 posted on 07/19/2010 2:33:37 PM PDT by stockpirate ("I am a Muslim first, an American second." Barack Obama Dreams of My Father)
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To: elephant
Really?

Really. The Constitution does not require a state to divide its electors among multiple candidates based on the popular vote within the state.

32 posted on 07/19/2010 2:33:37 PM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The EC was put in place so that the more populace states don’t control the presidency .... we don’t want three or four heavily populated states to determine the presidency ....


33 posted on 07/19/2010 2:35:30 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Am Molly Norris")
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To: Dilbert San Diego
And is such a law even constitutional?

The Constitution does not prevent any state from voluntarily deciding to silence the voice of it's own people in a presidential election.

I guess it never occurred to them that some state would be stupid enough to do so. They never met a modern liberal.

34 posted on 07/19/2010 2:36:17 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Mass. may join effort to bypass Electoral College

One can only hope that enough elected legislators have both sufficient IQ and the firm grasp of our country's history to understand why this is a fatal blow to our republic, and the reasons why the electoral college was deliberately and thoughtfully created within the Constitution.

To insure that the U.S. system would not degenerate to the mob rule that destroyed every other attempt at direct democracy.

Most within months, the remainder within five years.

For those in Rio Linda or Washington DC, just Google "France+Reign of Terror"

35 posted on 07/19/2010 2:36:49 PM PDT by Publius6961 ("We don't want to hear words; we want action and results.")
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To: Mojave

You are correct. The selection process is constitutional. Article 2 Section 1 reads “Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors”. If the states want to throw away their power and give the electors to the majority vote (fraud) winner, then they can.

However, I believe forcing the electors to vote for a certain candidate is unconstitutional.


36 posted on 07/19/2010 2:39:21 PM PDT by CondiArmy
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To: Mojave
It violates the compacts clause. You are correct that within a state, the legislature can decide how to assign the electors. They could decide on their own to just give their electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote, regardless of what other states do.

Where this law fails the compacts test is that the law does not take effect unless other states totaling 270 electoral votes also joins the compact. It also doesn't say what happens should a compact state decide to drop out of the compact. Do all the states then revert back to their prior method until another state joins the compact?

-PJ

37 posted on 07/19/2010 2:39:52 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Parmy

sadly, it’s not unconstitutional. Constitution says state legislatures can award electoral votes however they want.


38 posted on 07/19/2010 2:40:51 PM PDT by wny
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To: Parmy
I don't like the law, but it is clearly Constitutional:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress. (II, 2; U.S. Constitution).

39 posted on 07/19/2010 2:41:06 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch.

Precisely. The purpose of this is to enslave the countryside to the big cities.

40 posted on 07/19/2010 2:41:29 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Napolean fries the idea powder.)
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