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radio transcript (Costco Shooting)
opencarry.org ^ | 29 July. 2010 | UNKNOWN

Posted on 07/21/2010 2:23:24 PM PDT by marktwain

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To: DesertRhino
I think he went off his nut

Witness statements disagree with that assessment. An older couple stated he was trying bottles to see if they fit in his backpack. They stated that at no time were any voices raised etc.

21 posted on 07/21/2010 3:51:58 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DesertRhino
The witness statements in the previous threads, were made in the camping isle. They described Scott as calm and low key in his voice.

Escalation on the part of the employees. Possible pay back for being 'dissed'.

22 posted on 07/21/2010 3:53:56 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: Deaf Smith; DesertRhino

One of the articles said that an employee helped him put the bottles that he wanted in a cart. Another said that while this was going on, another employee was around the corner of the aisle on a bluetooth talking to police. I read somewhere in one of those articles that the employees padded the story to expedite police arrival.


23 posted on 07/21/2010 4:03:11 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
From this transcript, it sounds as if the store management kept padding the account of how “unstable” and “destructive” Eric Scott was until the police shot him. The transcript shows officers going to the scene being told that the situation involved a person possibly on drugs, possibly emotionally disturbed, and repeatedly throwing merchandise around and refusing to comply with the requests of an employee to leave.

The “manager is a green beret and is allowed to carry” may be a misinterpretation of Eric Scott identifying himself as a former military officer with a CCW. I haven't heard any witnesses corroborate the “being told to leave” part. I have heard many police say that when they are called to a store where a person “has been asked to leave”, they always take the management to the person so that they can witness the demand that the person leave. They say it is common for the person being asked to leave to say that no one asked them before, because management is often trying to get the police to to their job, as management does not want to confront the person themselves.

24 posted on 07/21/2010 4:21:55 PM PDT by marktwain
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I’d bet that they padded the story. Out of over 40 witness staements, 12 agreed with some of the cops story or Costco’s.


25 posted on 07/21/2010 4:27:48 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DesertRhino

Also sounds like there were plenty of Costco emps agitating him.


26 posted on 07/21/2010 5:07:12 PM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: DesertRhino

It’s starting to sound to me like you have a hidden agenda here.


27 posted on 07/21/2010 5:18:52 PM PDT by Ron H. ("Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It" - George Santayana, U.S. philosopher, poet)
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To: DesertRhino

He wasn’t throwing anything. He had opened a box of pop and was placing them into a backpack. Why I have no idea perhpas to see if they fit before he bought both?


28 posted on 07/21/2010 5:40:19 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: DJ MacWoW

If the employee did that then they are partially responsible for his death and they and Costco should be civily sued by his family.


29 posted on 07/21/2010 5:44:06 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: chris_bdba

I believe that they are partially responsible. Freepers that live or have lived in LV say it is a very corrupt PD and town. They may get away with this. I hope not but it’s happened before.


30 posted on 07/21/2010 5:53:00 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: chris_bdba

Where did you hear it was pop? I read it was bottles for water. Those plastic or metal things.


31 posted on 07/21/2010 5:54:57 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DesertRhino
Knee jerk cop haters aside, the response itself sounds like a lot of thought was going into not forcing him into a violent alternative. The quiet evacuation, having medical stage nearby, making efforts to see that there weren’t a lot of screaming sirens, etc.

A chain of careful actions which failed at the trigger finger of an f'n moron.

32 posted on 07/21/2010 5:56:30 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Deaf Smith
The manager is a Green Beret and is allowed to carry a 413

You noticed that too? since when do military, or retired military, have any more rights under the law that us Peons? Of course the guy may have a NV CHL license.

My AF reserve CO (although at that point, he may have been the XO) reminded me, as soon as he found out I was a shooter and gun owner, that being in the military did not exempt one from the then ridiculous Texas carry ban, except when on duty in the official conduct of ones duties of course. Things are much better now, that was back in the days when Queen Ann vetoed a bill that would have merely allowed the people of Texas to vote on the matter.

33 posted on 07/21/2010 8:36:03 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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Oh I think you are right it was water bottles from one of the value pack things, I was drawing from memory and obiviously it isn’t as good as your recall was....


34 posted on 07/21/2010 8:44:05 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: El Gato
I think there may be another conflict.

Eric Scott was CCL, while the manager was 'allowed' due to status (his own) in the store. The 'allowed' one may have been the dissed person who pissed all over Scott.

*How are your knees? Get them fixed yet?

35 posted on 07/21/2010 8:56:22 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: DesertRhino
Since no mention was ever later made of the manager being armed, and the guy was a US soldier

Except that he was a tanker and not SF. But he Scott have a concealed carry permit, and was allowed to carry a gun, under Nevada law.

36 posted on 07/21/2010 9:00:46 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: 21twelve
Also described as having a black 9mm handgun.

Something fishy here. How could he know it was a 9mm if he just glanced at it?

37 posted on 07/21/2010 10:50:07 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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It sounds to me like the manager and/or employee was blowing this all out of porportion. I can imagine Scott saying something like “It’s legal, I have a permit. I was a soldier for Christ’s sake!” (And yes - perhaps a bit of “attitude” defending his fighting for such freedoms as affirmed in our Constitution.

This becomes “He’s some sort of Rambo Green Beret guy and getting all whacked out.” And aren’t all the rap songs about 9mm pistols? Too many movies and MTV videos I think. As I said, most of the witnessess said the gun was in a zippered holster. Although that doesn’t make the most sense to me as a CCW person.


38 posted on 07/21/2010 11:02:54 PM PDT by 21twelve ( UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES MY ARSE: "..now begin the work of remaking America."-Obama, 1/20/09)
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To: Molon Labbie
Interesting about the manager reporting to be a Green Beret with a concealed carry permit himself. Wonder if thats true? And if so, why would a Green Beret make up stories about someone tearing the store up?

I don't think the MGr. was ever a witness to anything and was realaying something one employee told another who told another. By the time it got to the Mgr. Scott was spun into tearing up the store.

39 posted on 07/22/2010 12:36:14 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Need work. MBA, CPA, Black Belt. Diverse industry and cross border experience.)
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Interesting about the manager reporting to be a Green Beret with a concealed carry permit himself. Wonder if thats true? And if so, why would a Green Beret make up stories about someone tearing the store up?

I don't think the MGr. was ever a witness to anything and was realaying something one employee told another who told another. By the time it got to the Mgr. Scott was spun into tearing up the store.

40 posted on 07/22/2010 12:36:20 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Need work. MBA, CPA, Black Belt. Diverse industry and cross border experience.)
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