radio transcript (Costco Shooting)

opencarry.org ^ | 29 July. 2010 | UNKNOWN

[marktwain]

radio transcript Dispatcher: Units in V3, a 413 at Costco, 801 S. Pavillion Center. The male is inside the business to the rear of, has a 413 that's tucked into the back of his pants. We're still landline. (6:53)

K916: K916 back on channel. (7:03)

D: K916 (7:04)

AIR5: AIR5, we're going to go to the Costco first. (7:11)

D: AIR5, copy. (7:14)

2X12: 2X12 (7:20)

D: 2X12 (7:21)

2X12: You can disregard the air unit, I see customers coming out (related to a seperate 407A) (7:25)

D: 2X12 copy. K914, if you could be en route with AIR5 on the 413 at Costco in V3, 801 S. Pavillion Center. (7:35)

K916: K916, you can assign me as well. (7:42)

D: K916, copy. (7:44)

D: 2V16, if you'll also be en route on the 413 at Costco, 801 S. Pavillion Center. The male inside the business is acting erratic, throwing merchandise around, possibly high on unknown type of 446. (8:03)

2V16: 2V16 copy, from the Suncoast. (8:07)

D: 2V16, they are requesting CIT. Male is possibly ED. 767, did you copy? (8:16)

767: Put me en route to that please. (8:19)

D: 767. (8:21)

2DP62: 2DP62, clear me and show me en route. (8:25)

D: 2DP62. (8:26)

767: 767 (8:37)

D: 767. (8:38)

767: Go ahead and have medical en route also, just to stand by for us. (8:41)

D: 767, copy. (8:42)

2V55: 2V55, can you clear me B-baker and show me en route to Costco. (8:53)

D: 2V55, affirmative. (8:56)

2V16: 2V16 en route code. (8:58)

D: 2V16 (9:00)

2V55: 2V55, same traffic. (9:04)

D: 2V55 (9:05)

351WC: 351. (9:11)

D: 351 (9:12)

351WC: Have those units shut down code when they get close. Let's not get this guy more exicted than he already is. (9:18)

D: 351, copy. Units, shut down code when you get close to the Costco. (pause) (9:23)

D: Units en route on the 413 at Costco, 801 S. Pavillion Center, suspect's described as a White male, 32, 5'8, medium build, red hair, wearing a gray t-shirt, blue jeans, and white shoes, break. A black 9MM is tucked to the rear of his pants. (pause) (9:53)

D: 767, could you advise where you'd like medical to stage for now? (10:46)

767: Just have them stage, uh to the nearest intersection to that Costco. If you could have them not roll code, that'd be great also. (10:57)

D: 767 copy. Did you want other units to shut down code? (11:02)

767: I just want everybody to shut it down before they get close to that area; I don't want to spook this guy. (11:08)

D: Okay, copy. All units, justs reminding to shut down code when you get close to the area. (11:13) 767: 767 (11:18)

D: 767 (11:20)

767: I need a few more units that could head to that area also, so that we can shut down that parking lot so that nobody goes in or out of there. (11:28)

D: 767, copy. (11:31)

2X12: 2X12, you can assign me. (11:33)

D: 2X12 (11:35)

2X65: 2X65, same traffic. (11:43)

D: 2X65 (11:45)

351WC: Control, 351, where's the CP going to be? (11:49)

D: 767, can you advise? (11:54)

767: I'm not even close to there right now, so if we have a unit that's in there that could set up one real quick, that'd be great. (12:01)

2V54: 2V54, I'm arriving in the Costco parking lot, where do you want me? (12:07)

D: 2V54, at this time uh, I guess heading up a CP. (12:16)

AIR5: AIR5, did you have any further at all? (12:22)

D: It looks like the subject is still inside the business, argumentative with the manager who asked him to leave, telling him there's no 413's allowed inside the business, break. The manager is a Green Beret and is allowed to carry a 413. He's throwing merchandise around; he's still in isle 126 in the camping area, break. He appears to be fidgety. A female joined the male. She's described as Hispanic, 30s, black long hair, wearing black tank and blue jeans. Security's going to be standing outside the business in front of, to wait for officers to direct, break. He's walking through the camping area towards the front of the business on the main isle. (13:18)

2V54: 2V54, did you want me to stop people from going in the business? (13:22)

D: Uh 767, that's affirmative. Stop in or out? (13:26)

767: Affirm. (13:28)

D: V54, affirmative, uh V54, did you want a red? (13:32)

2V54: Hold off for a moment. (13:34)

D: Okay, copy. (13:35)

2X65: Control, 2X65 (13:37)

D: 2X65 (13:38)

2X65: Run this by the WC and Sarge. If we could get the management and employees to start slowly evacuating people out of the business without alerting anybody, that'd be a great idea. (13:50)

351WC: Control, 351WC, absolutely. (13:53)

D: Acknowledge that. (13:57)

2V54: 2V54, manager says it's escalating inside and he's still talking loudly and destroying merchandise. (14:06)

D: 2V54, copy. 2V54, are you able to get security started on exacuations? (14:14)

2V54: Affirm (14:16)

D: Okay, copy. (14:17)

2V16: 2V16, I'm out with 2V54. (14:55)

D: 2V16 (14:57)

Unknown bit of traffic (14:59)

D: All units, code red this channel. Officers arriving on the 413 at Costco, 801 S. Pavillion Center. (15:07)

2V16: 2V16, we need units to clear these people out of here. We're attempting to evacuate right now; get as many people out as possible. (15:45)

D: 2V16, copy. (15:47)

351WC: 351WC, where's the CP? (16:45)

D: Uh 2V54, can you advise location of CP? (16:50)

AIR5: AIR5, they're both right in the front entrance to the store. (16:55)

D: AIR5, copy. (16:57)

784: 767, 784 I'm arrived. What can I help you out with? (17:07)

767: You can set up the CP, that'd be great. (17:10)

784: : Copy, I'll set one up. (17:15)

AIR5: AIR5, are we still landline with anyone who has eyes on this guy, because there's a lot of people pouring out of the store. I just want to make sure he doesn't slip out. (17:28)

2V16: We got 2 officers here at the front doors watching everybody come out. (17:36)

D: 2V16, copy. AIR5, it looks like we're still landline. It looks like the male is still being watched by inside personnel due to him ripping open packages. They're concerned of a 414A. (17:49)

2V16: Copy, we've got a very orderly evacuation going on right now. We'll try to get all these people out of here and then figure out what we're going to do next. (18:00)

D: 2V16. (18:01)

2V54: He's directly in the middle of the building. (18:08)

D: Okay, copy. Confirming suspect's directly in the center of the building? (18:14)

2V54: ___ isle. (18:16)

D: You broke on the isle, could you re-advise? (18:20)

784: 784, copy location for IC. (18:31)

D: 784 (18:32)

784: It's going to be set up at the northwest parking lot at the Red Rock Casino across Charleston. It'll be the Costco command. I'll be incident commander until the arrival of 351WC. (18:46)

D: 784 copy. 351WC, incident command at northwest parking lot of Red Rock Casino across Charleston. (18:55)

AIR5: Control, AIR5, we need 1 unit to take the north side of the Costco please, right off of Pavillion Center so they can keepy an eye on the back and the east side. (19:02)

2V16: (yell) 2V16, we got shots fired, shots fired! (19:11)

D: 2V16, copy. Anyone down? (19:12)

2V16: Roll medical. (19:13)

D: 2V16. (19:15)

767: Go ahead and make the notifications. (19:19)

2V16: Notify supervisor. (19:21)

D: 2V16, copy. (19:22)

351WC: 351WC, I'm arrived, south end of the building. Is it safe for everybody else to enter the building? (19:28)

D: 2V16, can you advise? (19:30)

2V16: He pulled a 413 and pointed it in my direction. (19:38)

D: 2V16, copy. (19:40)

767: 767, can yu go ahead and make your notifications, please? (19:43)

D: 767, copy. (19:45)

767: Shut that parking lot down, please. (19:47)

D: Units arriving on the 413, shut down the parking lot. (19:51)

AIR5: They've got him out front, they're taking him into custody. Hold the traffic. (19:57)

D: AIR5, copy. Subject is out front, taking into custody. (20:01)

767: 767, let's make sure nobody else exit's that Costco right now. We may need to pull witness statements. (20:17)

D: 767, copy. Units, make sure no one else exits the Costco, they may need for witness purposes. (20:24)

784: Copy that they're taking him into custody. We're going to move the CP closer to the Burger King directly across from the Costco. (20:35)

D: Copy that, CP will be moving closer to the Burger King (20:39)

[DJ MacWoW]

I think he went off his nut

Witness statements disagree with that assessment. An older couple stated he was trying bottles to see if they fit in his backpack. They stated that at no time were any voices raised etc.

[Deaf Smith]

The witness statements in the previous threads, were made in the camping isle. They described Scott as calm and low key in his voice.

Escalation on the part of the employees. Possible pay back for being 'dissed'.

[DJ MacWoW]

One of the articles said that an employee helped him put the bottles that he wanted in a cart. Another said that while this was going on, another employee was around the corner of the aisle on a bluetooth talking to police. I read somewhere in one of those articles that the employees padded the story to expedite police arrival.

[marktwain]

From this transcript, it sounds as if the store management kept padding the account of how “unstable” and “destructive” Eric Scott was until the police shot him. The transcript shows officers going to the scene being told that the situation involved a person possibly on drugs, possibly emotionally disturbed, and repeatedly throwing merchandise around and refusing to comply with the requests of an employee to leave.

The “manager is a green beret and is allowed to carry” may be a misinterpretation of Eric Scott identifying himself as a former military officer with a CCW. I haven't heard any witnesses corroborate the “being told to leave” part. I have heard many police say that when they are called to a store where a person “has been asked to leave”, they always take the management to the person so that they can witness the demand that the person leave. They say it is common for the person being asked to leave to say that no one asked them before, because management is often trying to get the police to to their job, as management does not want to confront the person themselves.

[DJ MacWoW]

I’d bet that they padded the story. Out of over 40 witness staements, 12 agreed with some of the cops story or Costco’s.

[Marty62]

Also sounds like there were plenty of Costco emps agitating him.

[Ron H.]

It’s starting to sound to me like you have a hidden agenda here.

[chris_bdba]

He wasn’t throwing anything. He had opened a box of pop and was placing them into a backpack. Why I have no idea perhpas to see if they fit before he bought both?

[chris_bdba]

If the employee did that then they are partially responsible for his death and they and Costco should be civily sued by his family.

[DJ MacWoW]

I believe that they are partially responsible. Freepers that live or have lived in LV say it is a very corrupt PD and town. They may get away with this. I hope not but it’s happened before.

[DJ MacWoW]

Where did you hear it was pop? I read it was bottles for water. Those plastic or metal things.

[Stentor]

Knee jerk cop haters aside, the response itself sounds like a lot of thought was going into not forcing him into a violent alternative. The quiet evacuation, having medical stage nearby, making efforts to see that there weren’t a lot of screaming sirens, etc.

A chain of careful actions which failed at the trigger finger of an f'n moron.

[El Gato]

The manager is a Green Beret and is allowed to carry a 413

You noticed that too? since when do military, or retired military, have any more rights under the law that us Peons? Of course the guy may have a NV CHL license.

My AF reserve CO (although at that point, he may have been the XO) reminded me, as soon as he found out I was a shooter and gun owner, that being in the military did not exempt one from the then ridiculous Texas carry ban, except when on duty in the official conduct of ones duties of course. Things are much better now, that was back in the days when Queen Ann vetoed a bill that would have merely allowed the people of Texas to vote on the matter.

[chris_bdba]

Oh I think you are right it was water bottles from one of the value pack things, I was drawing from memory and obiviously it isn’t as good as your recall was....

[Deaf Smith]

I think there may be another conflict.

Eric Scott was CCL, while the manager was 'allowed' due to status (his own) in the store. The 'allowed' one may have been the dissed person who pissed all over Scott.

*How are your knees? Get them fixed yet?

[El Gato]

Since no mention was ever later made of the manager being armed, and the guy was a US soldier

Except that he was a tanker and not SF. But he Scott have a concealed carry permit, and was allowed to carry a gun, under Nevada law.

[Fido969]

Also described as having a black 9mm handgun.

Something fishy here. How could he know it was a 9mm if he just glanced at it?

[21twelve]

It sounds to me like the manager and/or employee was blowing this all out of porportion. I can imagine Scott saying something like “It’s legal, I have a permit. I was a soldier for Christ’s sake!” (And yes - perhaps a bit of “attitude” defending his fighting for such freedoms as affirmed in our Constitution.

This becomes “He’s some sort of Rambo Green Beret guy and getting all whacked out.” And aren’t all the rap songs about 9mm pistols? Too many movies and MTV videos I think. As I said, most of the witnessess said the gun was in a zippered holster. Although that doesn’t make the most sense to me as a CCW person.

[School of Rational Thought]

Interesting about the manager reporting to be a Green Beret with a concealed carry permit himself. Wonder if thats true? And if so, why would a Green Beret make up stories about someone tearing the store up?

I don't think the MGr. was ever a witness to anything and was realaying something one employee told another who told another. By the time it got to the Mgr. Scott was spun into tearing up the store.

[School of Rational Thought]

Interesting about the manager reporting to be a Green Beret with a concealed carry permit himself. Wonder if thats true? And if so, why would a Green Beret make up stories about someone tearing the store up?

I don't think the MGr. was ever a witness to anything and was realaying something one employee told another who told another. By the time it got to the Mgr. Scott was spun into tearing up the store.