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Is this man Obama's worst nightmare?
World Net Daily ^ | July 21, 2010 | Chelsea Schiling

Posted on 07/22/2010 7:46:52 AM PDT by no dems

He could be President Obama's worst nightmare – a business mastermind, a natural problem solver and a black man of "substance" who says he would "take the race card off the table" in a challenge against Obama as the GOP presidential candidate in 2012.

Has Obama met his match?

"We need a realistic candidate to run on the Republican ticket who can beat Barack Obama – not just beat the Democrats," Herman Cain, an Atlanta radio talk-show host, former CEO of Godfather's Pizza and 2004 Senate seeker, told WND. "We've also got to beat Barack Obama."

He added, "Obama is a master of rhetoric. He is a master of deceptive language. And any white candidate who runs against him will be up against the race card. I take the race card off the table."

Cain, a devout Christian, emphasized he is "prayerfully considering" a 2012 bid for the GOP nomination.

His supporters have launched a "Draft Herman Cain for President 2012" effort to develop teams of volunteers and build a grass-roots base for a presidential campaign. "That's been growing like gangbusters," Cain said. "That's the sort of thing I'll be looking at in the next couple of months in making this decision."

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

“constitutionalist”

yur not doon it right. You see...any Constitutionalist, REGARDLESS of skin color is racist....because obviously all the Founding Fathers were.....


41 posted on 07/22/2010 9:14:51 AM PDT by mo
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To: nmh
We need to STOP playing the tit for tat SKIN COLOR game.

I wholeheartedly concur. If we are looking at skin color and NOT looking at CONSERVATIVE qualifications, then we have taken our eye off the ball.

Besides, IMO, zero has ruined the opportunities for another black candidate to be elected president for decades to come, regardless of his/her qualifications!!

42 posted on 07/22/2010 9:14:52 AM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: r9etb
“Ah, the Palinite fire-breathers are gonna be after you now. Normally I’d recommend flame-retardant underwear, but with these folks there are usually so many tears and sprayed saliva that their flames are generally self-extinguishing.”

Yes, hurl the flamse my way!

Be part of the New Palin Panthers!

I'm flame proof so don't waste your time and highlight how similar you are to her tabloid responses. I see why you like her. You make name calling a sport too.

We truly need someone that is more mature than her, however I can see why you relate to her - you like the name calling game too! With that in mind, have the last word. To you and Sarah Palin, that is critically important. Make a nasty flame. Knock yourself out as one the New Palin Panters! I am not intimidated, nor do I care what you call me.

43 posted on 07/22/2010 9:14:57 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

so tell me, if Sarah were to get the nomination, would you stay home or would you vote for her?


44 posted on 07/22/2010 9:16:03 AM PDT by j_guru
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To: nmh

I don’t like it either, and Affirmative Action is racism, imho.

“FairTax
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The FairTax is a proposed change to the federal government tax laws of the United States intended to replace all federal income taxes[1] with a single broad national consumption tax on retail sales.[2] The plan has been introduced into the United States Congress as the Fair Tax Act (H.R. 25/S. 296). The tax would be levied once at the point of purchase on all new goods and services for personal consumption. The proposal also calls for a monthly payment to all family households of lawful U.S. residents as an advance rebate, or ‘prebate’, of tax on purchases up to the poverty level.[3][4] The sales tax rate, as defined in the legislation for the first year, is 23 percent of the total payment including the tax ($23 of every $100 spent in total—calculated similar to income taxes). This would be equivalent to a 30 percent traditional U.S. sales tax ($23 on top of every $77 spent—$100 total).[5] The rate would then be automatically adjusted annually based on federal receipts in the previous fiscal year.[6]

With the rebate taken into consideration, the FairTax would be progressive on consumption,[4] but would also be regressive on income at higher income levels (as consumption falls as a percentage of income).[7][8] Opponents argue this would accordingly decrease the tax burden on high income earners and increase it on the middle class.[5][9] Supporters contend that the plan would decrease tax burdens by broadening the tax base, effectively taxing wealth, and increasing purchasing power.[10][11] The plan’s supporters also argue that a consumption tax would have a positive effect on savings and investment, that it would ease tax compliance, and that the tax would result in increased economic growth, incentives for international business to locate in the U.S., and increased U.S. competitiveness in international trade.[12][13][14] Opponents contend that a consumption tax of this size would be extremely difficult to collect, and would lead to pervasive tax evasion. They also argue that the proposed sales tax rate would raise less revenue than the current tax system, leading to an increased budget deficit.

In recent years, a tax reform movement has formed behind the FairTax proposal.[16] Increased support was created after talk radio personality Neal Boortz and Georgia Congressman John Linder published The FairTax Book in 2005 and additional visibility was gained in the 2008 presidential campaign. A number of congressional committees have heard testimony on the bill; however, it has not moved from committee since its introduction in 1999 and has yet to have any effect on the tax system. The plan is expected to increase cost transparency for funding the federal government, and supporters believe it would have positive effects on civil liberties, the environment, and advantages with taxing illegal activity and illegal immigrants.[12][17] There are concerns regarding the proposed repeal of the Sixteenth Amendment, removal of tax deduction incentives, transition effects on after-tax savings, incentives on credit use, and the loss of tax advantages to state and local bonds.”


45 posted on 07/22/2010 9:17:01 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: nmh

Huh?!? I happen to agree with you about Palin....


46 posted on 07/22/2010 9:17:01 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: nmh; trisham

Here is an article, with his stance against affirmative action in his own words:

Affirmative action is negative step
By Herman Cain
Guest Columnist
Wednesday, April 28, 2004
http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories/2004/04/28/op_413767.shtml

Unfortunately, his opponents used this misrepresentation against him in the Senate race, and Wikipedia picked it up and it was never corrected. He ran against Isakson, who is a major RINO. Hermain Cain is much more conservative than Isakson


47 posted on 07/22/2010 9:17:09 AM PDT by justsaynomore (The Hermanator - www.hermancain.com)
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To: r9etb

BTW, my response is directed to those in the New Palin Panthers. So don’t mistake “you” to mean you as an individual. I am sick and tired of these New Palin Panthers. I will NOT be voting for another trainwreck.


48 posted on 07/22/2010 9:17:23 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh
New Palin Panters

Actually, I like that typo a lot better than the intended word.... "Panters" is a pretty good description of how some folks talk about her.

49 posted on 07/22/2010 9:18:50 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: justsaynomore
Affirmative action is negative step
By Herman Cain
Guest Columnist
Wednesday, April 28, 2004
http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories/2004/04/28/op_413767.shtml

Unfortunately, his opponents used this misrepresentation against him in the Senate race, and Wikipedia picked it up and it was never corrected. He ran against Isakson, who is a major RINO. Hermain Cain is much more conservative than Isakson


What has he said recently? That is from 2004.

Why does he favor the “Fair Tax”?

Is he another ignoramus like Huckabee?

Huckabee favored that too.

50 posted on 07/22/2010 9:19:06 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: r9etb

I’m flexible.

Your choice!

Use if needed.

;)


51 posted on 07/22/2010 9:20:04 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: justsaynomore

Good article, although this paragraph seems a little fuzzy:

“But the court gave the go-ahead to the University of Michigan law school to consider race on a case-by-case basis. This is very tricky. If it means that economically impoverished kids who happen to be minorities should get consideration for assistance, that’s great. If that means that minorities get slots in place of white kids with better academic credentials, then that is not fair.”


52 posted on 07/22/2010 9:23:17 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: nmh

He has reiterated that stance regularly on his show, any time it has come up, since then.

He is for the Fair Tax, and my husband and I happen to agree with him on that point. We did quite a bit of research on it last year.

From his web site:

Replace the federal income tax code
The current federal income tax code is a 9 million word mess, and it cannot be reformed or restructured. It creates disadvantages for families wondering how to pay for their children’s education, for small businesses struggling to pay the bills and meet payroll, for multinational businesses trying to compete in the global marketplace against lower priced goods from foreign countries, and for any U.S. citizen working hard everyday to achieve their American Dream.

No amount of tinkering with a portion of the tax code is going to fix it. It is too complicated. It is too unfair and inefficient. It discourages people from working harder to achieve upward economic mobility, which destroys hope and opportunity. The federal income tax code must be replaced, and it must be replaced with a national retail sales tax, also known as the “FairTax.”

Several commissions over the last 25 years, including the one I served on in 1995 (The National Commission on Economic Growth and Tax Reform), have all concluded that a replacement tax system should satisfy six principles.

•First, it should promote economic growth by reducing marginal tax rates and eliminating the tax bias against savings and investments.
•Second, it should promote fairness by having one tax rate and eliminating all loopholes, preferences and special deductions, credits and exclusions.
•Third, it should be simple and understandable. Simplicity would dramatically reduce compliance costs and allow people to truly comprehend their actual tax burden.
•Fourth, it should be neutral rather than allowing misguided officials to manipulate and micromanage our economy by favoring some at the expense of others.
•Fifth, it should be visible so it clearly conveys the true cost of government and so people would not be subjected to hidden changes in the tax law.
•Sixth, it should be stable rather than changing every year or two so people can better plan their businesses and their lives.
The FairTax satisfies all six criteria.

To enact the FairTax and unleash the full economic potential of the U.S., we must apply Vocal and Persistent pressure on Congress each week.

Email, call or fax your members of Congress today. Send them this simple message: “Please support replacing the federal income tax code and become a co-sponsor of HR 25 or S 296, the FairTax.”


53 posted on 07/22/2010 9:25:02 AM PDT by justsaynomore (The Hermanator - www.hermancain.com)
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To: trisham

What is tricky about that? He is stating pretty clearly that minorities should not get special treatment.


54 posted on 07/22/2010 9:28:11 AM PDT by justsaynomore (The Hermanator - www.hermancain.com)
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To: justsaynomore
No thanks!

We don't need a national retail tax.

He is obviously not a shrewd business man. He should know better. I'd expect the Huckster to not understand this because he really never WORKED for it. As a minister and then as governor, he doesn't understand. Cain should know better. A national tax will hurt those with the LEAST MORE than those with the most. Those with the LEAST are the ones that will be buying MORE. Those with the MOST, won't feel it.

He might as well favor a VAT tax.

I want a FLAT tax where all suffer accordingly.

55 posted on 07/22/2010 9:33:22 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: no dems

I say that by the time we vote for President again, the last person most people will vote for will be a black man.

BO has brought race relations back to the 1960s


56 posted on 07/22/2010 9:43:18 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: nmh

He is against the VAT and wrote an article on it recently (it’s probably on his web site).

They are not the same.

And he is nowhere near Huckabee in general, who is not a fiscal conservative.


57 posted on 07/22/2010 9:43:28 AM PDT by justsaynomore (The Hermanator - www.hermancain.com)
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To: netmilsmom

So are you saying these folks don’t stand a chance either?

Angela McGlowan/Mississippi’s 1st district, Allen West/Florida’s 22nd district, Ryan Frazier/Colorado’s 7th district, Bill Hardiman/Michigan’s 3rd district, Princella Smith/Arkansas’s 1st District, Bill Randall/North Carolina’s 13th district, Tim Scott/South Carolina’s 1st district, Stephen Broden/Texas’ 30th district, Charles Lollar/Maryland’s 5th district, Vernon Parker/Arizona’s 3rd district.


58 posted on 07/22/2010 9:49:58 AM PDT by justsaynomore (The Hermanator - www.hermancain.com)
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To: justsaynomore

I didn’t say it was “tricky”, I said it was “fuzzy”. His wording, imho, shows a conflict between what he feels and what he believes he should think.


59 posted on 07/22/2010 9:54:37 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: justsaynomore
Frankly the more I read your praises of him the more suspicious I am of him. He worked in ta retail setting. He's playing to the ignorant and NOT business friendly at all.

I know for a FACT, that Pepsi promotes on “diversity”. Pepsi is like Johnson and Johnson in that regard. They don't care about ability. They care about what you LOOK like. J&J have the most incompetent people i positions of authority that do NOT belong there. I worked there as a consultant and saw that first hand. It was terrible, however since I was NOT an employee of J&J I dealt with it. So it doesn't come as a surprise that he would ALSO try to leverage his SKIN COLOR for President. I'm not sure of the other companies he worked for. They too have quotas since affirmative action is alive and well.

I'd like to know HOW he turned things around. How many people did he have under him. What was the PROFIT before he took over and the PROFIT after he took over.

“•First, it should promote economic growth by reducing marginal tax rates and eliminating the tax bias against savings and investments.”

No it will not promote economic growth by taxing everything you buy. What is will do is hurt those that have the least when they go to purchase goods and services and you will have LESS for savings and investment if you are impoverished.

“•Second, it should promote fairness by having one tax rate and eliminating all loopholes, preferences and special deductions, credits and exclusions.”

No, having those with the least will pay MORE for what they NEED. The bias's will be directed to those with the LEAST. Those with more, will not be affected. The preference by default will be to keep the impoverished down.

“•Third, it should be simple and understandable. Simplicity would dramatically reduce compliance costs and allow people to truly comprehend their actual tax burden.”

Simple and understandable is not a merit. No policy should be based on peoples stupidity or dumbness. It will NOT reduce compliance costs by being simple and understandable. There will be ways around it such as NOT reporting sales ... .

“•Fourth, it should be neutral rather than allowing misguided officials to manipulate and micromanage our economy by favoring some at the expense of others.”

By using this form of tax, based on purchasing power, it is manipulating the impoverished to pay MORE. It is also micromanaging the economy to keep people down at the expense of others and favoring the “wealthy” which it is claiming not to do! It is the wealthy that is being favored at the expense of the impoverished.

“•Fifth, it should be visible so it clearly conveys the true cost of government and so people would not be subjected to hidden changes in the tax law.”

The “Fair Tax” is anything but FAIR! The cost of government will be INCREASING. It will be the next CASH COW for the government. They'll just raise the TAX when they need more money. We already pay, state, federal and local taxes. Another TAX is not what we need based on purchasing power. It's ridiculous. We NEED less spending by the government and LESS taxes.

“•Sixth, it should be stable rather than changing every year or two so people can better plan their businesses and their lives.”

Paying ANOTHER TAX, will not have any effect on business planning. This tax will only polarize the classes and create more class warfare. Instead of mucking with the tax code every couple of years, they'll just make the case to RAISE the TAX on purchasing. They’ll say, “oh, what's another 1%? It's really nothing ...” Our government needs LESS TAXING ABILITY.

“The FairTax satisfies all six criteria.”

My criteria is obviously not the same as your criteria. The Fair Tax is SIMPLY misleading and idiotic. It's aback door approach for our government to have MORE MONEY to spend at the expense of the impoverished who literally have the LEAST to SPEND.

People like th Huckster would like it because it is SIMPLE on the surface. When you did deeper it hurts the very people it is claiming to help. The Huckster has NO IDEA what working for a living is like beyond government. The Huckster has had a free ride all his life so I'd expect him to be extremely ignornat. I don't expect this kind of an ignorance to come from a man claiming to be a business success. Cain has NO EXCUSE for promoting this.

60 posted on 07/22/2010 10:03:36 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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