Posted on 07/27/2010 11:25:06 AM PDT by topher
Hey my FRiend, if you want to believe that Swans use the same emotions picking a mate as you do, you be my guest. But seriously, they are not picking a mate, they are picking their right to procreate.
However, I’ll tell you this, because you can use your fingers to type, you are more intelligent than any of them. Including the liberals. Don’t belittle yourself.
SAME EMOTIONS? Where did you get that?
Howard? Howard Dean, is that you?
Do you just make things up as you go along?
BTW you might want to reconsider the idea that you are intellectually superior to animals...your lack of logic, your conflation of unrelated issues, and intellectual dishonesty make it highly unlikely that you could survive in the wild for more than an afternoon.
>>BTW you might want to reconsider the idea that you are intellectually superior to animals...your lack of logic, your conflation of unrelated issues, and intellectual dishonesty make it highly unlikely that you could survive in the wild for more than an afternoon. <<
Bless your heart!
Oh, you mean they got into it via some back door method?
The pre-natal hormone study supposedly affecting homosexuality has been totally discredited. I’ve seen it mentioned a couple of times on this thread, just like once a year there a news story “Gay Gene Found?”
Never has, never will.
Darn!I’m starting to get a reputation here!LOL
But since I was invited.......
I'm not sure if it's "the" cause, possibly one of a series of "tendencies" which can influence variation.
I'll get back to you if I find something .
Some gay men blame it on how they were reared...
Does prenatal hormonal influence mean someone could be born that way?
How is murder and homo/hetero sexuality even similar? You may as well as if a persons choice in vehicle color is genetically-caused.
If you mean "born gay," the answer is no. "Gay" entails cooperation with a homosexual tendency: and cooperation means choice.
If you mean "born with a homosexual tendency," the answer is yes. It could be a strong or a weak tendency, it could be transient or persistent, but prenatal hormones definitely influence gendered differences, including bodily and brain development and sexual attraction which involves a physiological response.
This does not amount to behavior determination. It's more like a temperament. In an analogous way, a person may tend to be excitable, or placid; cheerful, or melancholic; energetic or lethargic; reckless or cautious, etc. This tendency does not determine the person's action in every case: but it influences him.
Influenced temperament, born with a tendency...but not beviorally determinant. OK, thanks
trauma = treatment
homosexualists can’t have that.
I doubt the last portion of you statement. Given the “stimulus/response” nature of sexual arousal then it just goes to demonstrate a learned response.
If a child is a slow learner then perhaps the natural learning process has been compromised either by abuse or a maternal mental manipulation.
if sexual behavior (and the consequences) are “born that way” then what about:
people with animals?
people with fetishes regarding things?
pain?
it just a POLITICAL statement masqerading as science.
Because you're putting forth a premise that one's genes make a person behave in a certain way. Instead of the devil compelling one to do something, it's one's genes that do so. The net effect of all that is negate absolute truth and personal responsibility, which an objective of leftists and secular humanists.
So, if genetics can cause one to have deviant sexual desires, why couldn't they give on a desire to violent and murder?
In fact, if you think am I just making up wild analogies, you're wrong because "scientists" have been trying to find a murder gene as well:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1004083,00.html
Check this out.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/724179/posts
This site has some good info.
The prenatal hormone thing was one of the most recent “A-ha!, I think we found it” moments, one of numerous attempts. They’ve been desperately trying to prove that gays are “born”, they haven’t found anything yet and never will. If they could have proven the prenatal hormone thing you would have been hearing about it 24/7 for years now.
I had a Ivy League educated shrinker friend who would have been about 90 now if he was alive, he treated and cured homosexuals. Homosexuals who WANTED to change. Obviously, he was educated before this “modern” thinking about gays became vogue. The sad thing is these gays who say “why would I want this”, but refuse to accept that they can be cured because the whole PC crowd is so against this kind of treatment.
Like many of the anecdotes you see on this thread you can always trace a very likely or at least possible cause for homosexuality.
If tendency + impulse = determination of behavior, most males would be guilty of polygamy, and most females of homicide.
I guess we’ll never really know then, it’ll just be a matter of what one believes.
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