Skip to comments.Report: Romney nudging Graham to strike immigration deal before election? (Grahmnesty and Mitt)
Posted on 07/30/2010 5:44:38 PM PDT by GOPGuide
A tantalizing bit of 2012 gossip dropped way, way down in an otherwise fun piece about amnesty shills boo-hooing over having (temporarily) lost McCain. Note to Politico: This is whats called burying the lede.
Their hope now is that Republican presidential candidates and former operatives under Bush, a reform proponent, can convince GOP congressional leaders that the issue needs to be dealt with before 2012 or that they could risk alienating the burgeoning Hispanic vote in the crucial swing states of New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada, Arizona and Florida.
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a front-runner for the nomination, has signaled quietly to Graham that Republicans must address immigration before the campaign heats up, according to several sources familiar with the conversation.
Grahams push against birthright citizenship prompted this response on POLITICOs Arena from Cesar Conda, a former domestic policy adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney: If the Republican Party embraces ending birthright citizenship, then it will be assured losing Latino and ethnic voters and presidential elections for the foreseeable future.
Now Im more confused than ever about why Grahams pushing the birthright citizenship amendment. If he really is thinking about trying to settle the immigration issue before 2012 which may be do-able, given the electoral pressure from Latinos that the GOP leadership will be feeling what does he gain by staking out a position further to the right than hes ever gone before? I have to assume that its precisely because he thinks a deal is likely that he wants to stockpile conservative demands now so that he can give up on them early in the interests of compromise. If he sacrifices birthright citizenship in the interests of being reasonable but stands firm on securing the border first, itll give the Dems some cover on agreeing to the latter. In fact, Politico notes that his comprehensive bill co-written with Schumer already would have made amnesty contingent on first reaching certain benchmarks vis-a-vis border security; Grahams now insisting that thats no longer enough, that he wants a separate borders only bill before amnesty comes back on the table, but Ive got a crazy hunch that hes just staking out a bargaining position there too.
As for Mitts role in this, its not like hes nudging Graham to strike a deal on his behalf. Getting immigration off the table would, in theory, benefit whoever the eventual nominee is. But suspicions about him among the righty base plus the fact that its Grahamnesty, of all people, that hes coordinating with here instead of, say, Jim DeMint isnt going to win him any new fans. Exit question: Any fallout over this for him, or no biggie?
Its a biggie.
Up yours Mitt Romney! And that goes double for Grahamnesty and McNasty.
Who the hell sez so?
If true, this is definite proof that Mitt Romney has no business being the nominee in 2012.
Rino’s conspiring to screw the country in yet another novel and inventive way.
Talk about political suicide.
IF either of these nitwits go for the Amnesty at all....they will pay with their political lives.
Funny how reputably smart people are so stupid and illogical. If illegals get to vote, the nation is finished. No need to explain.
“Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a front-runner for the nomination, has signaled quietly to Graham that Republicans must address immigration before the campaign heats up, according to several sources familiar with the conversation.”
Behold the face of evil before you!
Kill All RINOs without exception (politically speaking, of course).
Romney is toast in any case. He had his shot and we need someone different. If he is behind some amnesty deal, screw him.
The only way to avoid this will be if Hillary challenges O in 2012. Otherwise, the Dems will screw up the early primaries and stick us with another McCain.
THey do NOT listen or LEARN a damned thing from the people they claim to represent!
Then we should look for a conservative Common Sense party.
Arbitrarily granting citizenship to illegals is not necessarily a boon for the Left.
Factoring work ethic, taxation, Christianity, and adjustments in labor costs, the political outcome may wash out to a split possibly favoring Republicans.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the RINOs are considering this possibility hoping for political balance well before 2012 should “reform” go through.
We had enough of Romney when he was governor here. I’d never vote for the sumbitch again.
But Republicans should deal with illegal aliens before 2012 for certain, by forming a united front against all amnesty schemes and working toward real border security and interior enforcement.
The Politico article that is the source of the information in this thread also said that McCain was "miffed" because he received so little Hispanic support in 2008, after all his pandering and support of amnesty for illegals in 2006 and 2007. That's what all Republicans should learn: that all the pandering will get them nothing but Dim majorities a few years down the road if amnesty ever passes.
most of the RINO are U.S. Senate. gop play games with the you
a good cop bad cop
Lol. The GOP, the party of Amnesty. Reagan, Bush, McCain, Graham, Romney...
B.S.. Latino’s that favor amnesty are not going to vote for Republicans no matter what they do. This is nothing but a shrill attempt to play right into the DemonRATs playbook.
Send the illegals packing and the same for any whiners that are protecting them. They are criminals that have thumbed their noses at our laws and continue to do so.
So Romney may get the nomination and win the Presidency? He won't be the President of the United States. President of something, maybe, but it will not be America. Amnesty finishes us.
This guy has become the king of proxy treacheries. He's like a mob boss from a TV show who is always up to something nefarious, but works through proxies so carefully that he thinks he always has plausible deniability.
Sorry, Mitt, we're not buying your Bart Simpson-esque “I didn't do it, you can't prove I had anything to do with it” crap. You play dirty, you're not the 1100 issue convert you pretend to be, and we're not stupid.
In theory, a biggie. In actual practice, Myth Romney is DOA with the base of the party.
Most Latinos are Catholics, many in the liberation theology vain. Those will vote leftist.
Also, Latin America has a tradition of "caudilloism". They are far more likely to vote for a big-government strongman-type politician (Obama, Chavez) than a rugged individualist-type politician (Reagan).
Hispanics already vote something like 65%-35% in favor of Dems. What makes you think the current crop of illegals would vote any differently?
Mitt Romney,a front-runner for the nomination.....
By who’s standard?
Sit On It Mitt!
Sarah or thune for me.
The haughty snake, Willard Myth Romney:
"A little self examination is in order for you Republicans.
You may want to ask yourself if I had spent my time promoting and serving
Obama and Mitt Romney, could not I have garnered more support
of both Obama and Mitt Romney now?
Romney praises Obama again
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney praised President Obama
at a GOP fundraising dinner Wednesday ..
"I also think it's important for us to nod to the president when he's right," Romney said....
Romney, who spoke at a dinner for the National Republican Senatorial Committee,
said he's pleased with the president's plans to "finish the job" in Iraq and Afghanistan
-- lines that drew applause from the partisan audience. He also applauded the president
for standing up to the auto industry.
"I hope he continues to be tough ....The former businessman even offered faint praise for
Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, saying that after a series of initial missteps,
"I think he's finally getting close to the right answer."
Thsy can take their Latinos and shove them, the rule of constitutional law is at stake.
I don’t think amnesty will ‘finish’ the Country. It’s a sickening proposition, however - laws and sovereignty traded for votes - it’s a form of betrayal in my opinion.
I’m only guessing about Romney’s motives.
Palin 2012, period.
Romney is a jackass.....
You know that Allahpundit have to be pissed. He is a huge Romney supporter.
They will just KEEP COMING!!....And then finish us off, financially, culturally, and politically.
"According to the Globe, the landscaping company's owner, Ricardo Saenz,
. "said he met Romney through the Mormon Church and said Romney has used his company's services for a decade."
. The Globe added that "Saenz said Romney never asked him if his workers are legal immigrants."
. Noorani also accused Romney of hypocrisy in the wake of a Boston Globe report
. last week that illegal immigrants worked on the crew that manicured the grounds of his mansion in Belmont.
. "His family directly benefited from the labor of undocumented immigrants," Noorani said."
"More immigrant woes for Romney"
. "Romney's account differs from that of landscape company owner Ricardo Saenz,
. who said that Romney didn't press the issue of whether his workers were in the country illegally."
"That Colombian born employer says that Romney never brought it up
. during the 11 year relationship that included two nationally publicized
. exposes of the Romney scandal and his sons involvement.
. It never came up even during the years that Romney was Governor of the state,
. the gang of Guatemalan illegals that Romney only spoke Spanish to
. never aroused his suspicions evidently."
Another day at the Romney Illegal Alien Sanctuary. [/s]
>> What makes you think the current crop of illegals would vote any differently?
I’m not saying those factors are absolute.
Taxation and labor costs would go into effect immediately. This could translate to a significant drop in income for illegals, greater competition from the original labor base, and fewer dollars for export. Combined with national resentment towards implementing amnesty, I don’t see this being a big win for Democrats. But, it might take some time to settle out. That’s why I think Romney would rather see it happen sooner than later. Also, Obama could be calculating that it’s better to wait on amnesty to maximize 2012 instead of 2010.
I’m not committed to this line of reasoning. Just some speculation based on the article.
I wish Romney would just go away......
I wish Palin would just go away.......
I wish Huckabee would just go away...
We NEED another choice. A LEADER! Of course, I have no idea who that could be at this point. I’ll post a help wanted ad in USA Today, looking for a ‘dark horse’.
I would like to see poll results for this question for the American people. I would guess it would receive very strong support (70+%).
The Ruling Class would not support it, because as a rule they always support the interests of foreign citizens and foreign governments over the interests of native-born Americans.
Shut up and go away Romney you One World Socialist!
“Republican presidential candidates and former operatives under Bush, a reform proponent, can convince GOP congressional leaders that the issue needs to be dealt with before 2012 or that they could risk alienating the burgeoning Hispanic vote in the crucial swing states of New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada, Arizona and Florida.”
Yeah, these party boys and “operatives”, Bushites and others, are so brilliant, it’s hard for us peons to even look upon them without sunglasses.
If the Republicans will just embrace amnesty, the Mexicans, Salvadorans, etc. will flock to them in gratitude and reward them with mucho votos. And, of course, the rank and file non-Latino Republicans won’t mind their party selling out the country again, will they?
For every Latino vote the Elephants picked up, they’d lose ten votes from people who have supported the Republicans through thick and thin for years.
The Stupid Party—there’s just nothing to compare.
“If the dims grant amnesty to 30+million undocumented democrats, the GOP is finished forever. “
Not the Romney-McCain-Graham-Snowe- et al GOP, they will go on as the less-liberal wing of the DNC with support from the MSM.
has signaled quietly to Graham that Republicans must address immigration before the campaign heats upThe only way Republicans must address immigration is, BUILD THE FENCE and prohibit immigration from Moslem countries by Moslems (but not by others).
We should also remember that the newly legalized aliens will all shortly end up as welfare cases. Why? Once they are legal, employers will be forced to pay them at least minimum wage. This will price the newly legalized out of the labor market, as a new crop of illegals will be willing to come to the U.S. and work for sub-standard wages.
The pro-amnesty folks are aware of this never-ending cycle. It is their strategy to change America’s demographics permanently so that the “white ruling class” is relegated to permanent minority status.
I’m liking Jim DeMint, Rick Santorum, and Chris Christie.....that’s about it. The ones being talked about all fall way short.
Romney, Pawlenty and Huckabee are squishy RINO frauds.
Palin is likeable and good on the issues for the most part - but alas also a lightweight.
Gingrich has too much baggage.
Am I missing anyone?
McDonald in VA is putting together a good track record.