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Report: Romney nudging Graham to strike immigration deal before election? (Grahmnesty and Mitt)
Hotair ^ | July 30, 2010 | Allahpundit

Posted on 07/30/2010 5:44:38 PM PDT by GOPGuide

A tantalizing bit of 2012 gossip dropped way, way down in an otherwise fun piece about amnesty shills boo-hooing over having (temporarily) lost McCain. Note to Politico: This is what’s called “burying the lede.”

Their hope now is that Republican presidential candidates and former operatives under Bush, a reform proponent, can convince GOP congressional leaders that the issue needs to be dealt with before 2012 — or that they could risk alienating the burgeoning Hispanic vote in the crucial swing states of New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada, Arizona and Florida.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a front-runner for the nomination, has signaled quietly to Graham that Republicans must address immigration before the campaign heats up, according to several sources familiar with the conversation.

Graham’s push against birthright citizenship prompted this response on POLITICO’s Arena from Cesar Conda, a former domestic policy adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney: “If the Republican Party embraces ending birthright citizenship, then it will be assured losing Latino and ethnic voters — and presidential elections for the foreseeable future.”

Now I’m more confused than ever about why Graham’s pushing the birthright citizenship amendment. If he really is thinking about trying to settle the immigration issue before 2012 — which may be do-able, given the electoral pressure from Latinos that the GOP leadership will be feeling — what does he gain by staking out a position further to the right than he’s ever gone before? I have to assume that it’s precisely because he thinks a deal is likely that he wants to stockpile conservative demands now so that he can give up on them early in the interests of “compromise.” If he sacrifices birthright citizenship in the interests of “being reasonable” but stands firm on securing the border first, it’ll give the Dems some cover on agreeing to the latter. In fact, Politico notes that his comprehensive bill co-written with Schumer already would have made amnesty contingent on first reaching certain benchmarks vis-a-vis border security; Graham’s now insisting that that’s no longer enough, that he wants a separate “borders only” bill before amnesty comes back on the table, but I’ve got a crazy hunch that he’s just staking out a bargaining position there too.

As for Mitt’s role in this, it’s not like he’s nudging Graham to strike a deal on his behalf. Getting immigration off the table would, in theory, benefit whoever the eventual nominee is. But suspicions about him among the righty base plus the fact that it’s Grahamnesty, of all people, that he’s coordinating with here instead of, say, Jim DeMint isn’t going to win him any new fans. Exit question: Any fallout over this for him, or no biggie?


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1 posted on 07/30/2010 5:44:42 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

Its a biggie.


2 posted on 07/30/2010 5:47:39 PM PDT by dforest
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To: GOPGuide

Up yours Mitt Romney! And that goes double for Grahamnesty and McNasty.


3 posted on 07/30/2010 5:47:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: GOPGuide
Mitt Romney, a front-runner for the nomination

Who the hell sez so?

4 posted on 07/30/2010 5:48:56 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj

If true, this is definite proof that Mitt Romney has no business being the nominee in 2012.


5 posted on 07/30/2010 5:49:23 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: GOPGuide

Rino’s conspiring to screw the country in yet another novel and inventive way.


6 posted on 07/30/2010 5:49:30 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop thinking about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: GOPGuide

Talk about political suicide.

IF either of these nitwits go for the Amnesty at all....they will pay with their political lives.


7 posted on 07/30/2010 5:49:32 PM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November from my house.)
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To: GOPGuide

Funny how reputably smart people are so stupid and illogical. If illegals get to vote, the nation is finished. No need to explain.


8 posted on 07/30/2010 5:50:24 PM PDT by line drive to right
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To: GOPGuide

“Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a front-runner for the nomination, has signaled quietly to Graham that Republicans must address immigration before the campaign heats up, according to several sources familiar with the conversation.”

Behold the face of evil before you!

Kill All RINOs without exception (politically speaking, of course).


9 posted on 07/30/2010 5:50:46 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: GOPGuide

Romney is toast in any case. He had his shot and we need someone different. If he is behind some amnesty deal, screw him.


10 posted on 07/30/2010 5:51:08 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Farmer Dean

The only way to avoid this will be if Hillary challenges O in 2012. Otherwise, the Dems will screw up the early primaries and stick us with another McCain.


11 posted on 07/30/2010 5:52:18 PM PDT by chickadee
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To: Farmer Dean

THey do NOT listen or LEARN a damned thing from the people they claim to represent!


12 posted on 07/30/2010 5:53:59 PM PDT by a real Sheila (Run Sarah, run!)
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To: tbpiper
Could you just imagine the mess if our next pick came down to Romney and Graham
13 posted on 07/30/2010 5:54:43 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: reefdiver

Then we should look for a conservative Common Sense party.


14 posted on 07/30/2010 5:57:42 PM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: GOPGuide

Arbitrarily granting citizenship to illegals is not necessarily a boon for the Left.

Factoring work ethic, taxation, Christianity, and adjustments in labor costs, the political outcome may wash out to a split possibly favoring Republicans.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the RINOs are considering this possibility hoping for political balance well before 2012 should “reform” go through.


15 posted on 07/30/2010 5:58:18 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: GOPGuide
It was looking too good for the Republicans going into November. I was wondering how they would snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. This could be the way. Idiots!
16 posted on 07/30/2010 5:58:46 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Gun control was originally to protect Klansmen from their victims. The basic reason hasn't changed.)
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To: SevenofNine

17 posted on 07/30/2010 6:00:13 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: reefdiver

We had enough of Romney when he was governor here. I’d never vote for the sumbitch again.


18 posted on 07/30/2010 6:01:30 PM PDT by donhunt (Where does this totalitarian ashwipe get off telling me I can't chose for myself?)
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To: GOPGuide
Romney needs to clear this up soon rather letting all these "sources" to put such a major policy statement out - if this is all true, or not.

But Republicans should deal with illegal aliens before 2012 for certain, by forming a united front against all amnesty schemes and working toward real border security and interior enforcement.

The Politico article that is the source of the information in this thread also said that McCain was "miffed" because he received so little Hispanic support in 2008, after all his pandering and support of amnesty for illegals in 2006 and 2007. That's what all Republicans should learn: that all the pandering will get them nothing but Dim majorities a few years down the road if amnesty ever passes.

19 posted on 07/30/2010 6:02:47 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Gene Eric

most of the RINO are U.S. Senate. gop play games with the you
a good cop bad cop


20 posted on 07/30/2010 6:04:25 PM PDT by goldendays
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To: GOPGuide

Lol. The GOP, the party of Amnesty. Reagan, Bush, McCain, Graham, Romney...


21 posted on 07/30/2010 6:05:09 PM PDT by Palter (Kilroy was here.)
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To: GOPGuide
“given the electoral pressure from Latinos that the GOP leadership will be feeling”

B.S.. Latino’s that favor amnesty are not going to vote for Republicans no matter what they do. This is nothing but a shrill attempt to play right into the DemonRATs playbook.
Send the illegals packing and the same for any whiners that are protecting them. They are criminals that have thumbed their noses at our laws and continue to do so.

22 posted on 07/30/2010 6:05:29 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: Gene Eric
Factoring work ethic, taxation, Christianity, and adjustments in labor costs, the political outcome may wash out to a split possibly favoring Republicans.

So Romney may get the nomination and win the Presidency? He won't be the President of the United States. President of something, maybe, but it will not be America. Amnesty finishes us.

23 posted on 07/30/2010 6:06:30 PM PDT by gundog (Why is it that useful idiots remain idiots long after they've exhausted their usefulness?)
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To: Jim Robinson; All
So now that another of Romney's behind-the-scenes treacheries has become public, how long do you think it will be before Mitt comes out with a full press release denying any attempt to push forward an amnesty deal?

This guy has become the king of proxy treacheries. He's like a mob boss from a TV show who is always up to something nefarious, but works through proxies so carefully that he thinks he always has plausible deniability.

Sorry, Mitt, we're not buying your Bart Simpson-esque “I didn't do it, you can't prove I had anything to do with it” crap. You play dirty, you're not the 1100 issue convert you pretend to be, and we're not stupid.

24 posted on 07/30/2010 6:09:38 PM PDT by TitansAFC ("I was the only guy in California who initially endorsed (McCain) in 2000" - Duncan Hunter)
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To: line drive to right
Funny how reputably smart people are so stupid and illogical. If illegals get to vote, the nation is finished. No need to explain.

If the dims grant amnesty to 30+million undocumented democrats, the GOP is finished forever. How can they get so stupid once they go to the District of Corruption?
25 posted on 07/30/2010 6:10:03 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: GOPGuide
Any fallout over this for him, or no biggie?

In theory, a biggie. In actual practice, Myth Romney is DOA with the base of the party.

26 posted on 07/30/2010 6:10:30 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (No apologies.)
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To: Gene Eric
Factoring work ethic, taxation, Christianity, and adjustments in labor costs

Most Latinos are Catholics, many in the liberation theology vain. Those will vote leftist.

Also, Latin America has a tradition of "caudilloism". They are far more likely to vote for a big-government strongman-type politician (Obama, Chavez) than a rugged individualist-type politician (Reagan).

Hispanics already vote something like 65%-35% in favor of Dems. What makes you think the current crop of illegals would vote any differently?

27 posted on 07/30/2010 6:10:45 PM PDT by kevao
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To: J Edgar

Mitt Romney,a front-runner for the nomination.....
By who’s standard?


28 posted on 07/30/2010 6:11:46 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop thinking about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: GOPGuide

Sit On It Mitt!


29 posted on 07/30/2010 6:14:07 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Sarah or thune for me.


30 posted on 07/30/2010 6:14:58 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: GOPGuide

The haughty snake, Willard Myth Romney:
"A little self examination is in order for you Republicans.
You may want to ask yourself “if I had spent my time promoting and serving
Obama and Mitt Romney, could not I have garnered more support
of both Obama and Mitt Romney now?


“Romney praises Obama again
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney praised President Obama
at a GOP fundraising dinner Wednesday ..
"I also think it's important for us to nod to the president when he's right," Romney said....
Romney, who spoke at a dinner for the National Republican Senatorial Committee,
said he's pleased with the president's plans to "finish the job" in Iraq and Afghanistan
-- lines that drew applause from the partisan audience. He also applauded the president
for standing up to the auto industry.
"I hope he continues to be tough ....The former businessman even offered faint praise for
Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, saying that after a series of initial missteps,
"I think he's finally getting close to the right answer."



31 posted on 07/30/2010 6:15:47 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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To: GOPGuide

Thsy can take their Latinos and shove them, the rule of constitutional law is at stake.


32 posted on 07/30/2010 6:19:23 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: gundog

I don’t think amnesty will ‘finish’ the Country. It’s a sickening proposition, however - laws and sovereignty traded for votes - it’s a form of betrayal in my opinion.

I’m only guessing about Romney’s motives.


33 posted on 07/30/2010 6:20:02 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: GOPGuide

Palin 2012, period.


34 posted on 07/30/2010 6:20:36 PM PDT by Gator113 (Beauty will devour the Beast in 2012....)
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To: GOPGuide

Romney is a jackass.....


35 posted on 07/30/2010 6:24:45 PM PDT by cranked
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To: GOPGuide

You know that Allahpundit have to be pissed. He is a huge Romney supporter.


36 posted on 07/30/2010 6:26:29 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: Gene Eric
We just can't keep doing "Amnesty" every few years or so....

They will just KEEP COMING!!....And then finish us off, financially, culturally, and politically.

37 posted on 07/30/2010 6:27:04 PM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: GOPGuide
Romney foisted RomneyCARE on Massachusetts to
coverup his "rape" of companies at BAIN and his bringing
millions of illegals into Massachsetts to remove
English is the first language in most cities.

"According to the Globe, the landscaping company's owner, Ricardo Saenz,
. "said he met Romney through the Mormon Church and said Romney has used his company's services for a decade."
. The Globe added that "Saenz said Romney never asked him if his workers are legal immigrants."
. Noorani also accused Romney of hypocrisy in the wake of a Boston Globe report
. last week that illegal immigrants worked on the crew that manicured the grounds of his mansion in Belmont.
. "His family directly benefited from the labor of undocumented immigrants," Noorani said."

"More immigrant woes for Romney"
. "Romney's account differs from that of landscape company owner Ricardo Saenz,
. who said that Romney didn't press the issue
of whether his workers were in the country illegally."

.

"That Colombian born employer says that Romney never brought it up
. during the 11 year relationship that included two nationally publicized
. exposes of the Romney scandal and his sons involvement.
. It never came up even during the years that Romney was Governor of the state,
. the gang of Guatemalan illegals that Romney only spoke Spanish to
. never aroused his suspicions evidently."

.

Another day at the Romney Illegal Alien Sanctuary. [/s]


38 posted on 07/30/2010 6:29:38 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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To: kevao

>> What makes you think the current crop of illegals would vote any differently?

I’m not saying those factors are absolute.

Taxation and labor costs would go into effect immediately. This could translate to a significant drop in income for illegals, greater competition from the original labor base, and fewer dollars for export. Combined with national resentment towards implementing amnesty, I don’t see this being a big win for Democrats. But, it might take some time to settle out. That’s why I think Romney would rather see it happen sooner than later. Also, Obama could be calculating that it’s better to wait on amnesty to maximize 2012 instead of 2010.

I’m not committed to this line of reasoning. Just some speculation based on the article.


39 posted on 07/30/2010 6:31:21 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: GOPGuide

I wish Romney would just go away......

I wish Palin would just go away.......

I wish Huckabee would just go away...

We NEED another choice. A LEADER! Of course, I have no idea who that could be at this point. I’ll post a help wanted ad in USA Today, looking for a ‘dark horse’.


40 posted on 07/30/2010 6:31:50 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: GOPGuide
Cesar Conda, a former domestic policy adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney: “If the Republican Party embraces ending birthright citizenship, then it will be assured losing Latino and ethnic voters — and presidential elections for the foreseeable future.”

I would like to see poll results for this question for the American people. I would guess it would receive very strong support (70+%).

The Ruling Class would not support it, because as a rule they always support the interests of foreign citizens and foreign governments over the interests of native-born Americans.

41 posted on 07/30/2010 6:34:58 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: GOPGuide

Shut up and go away Romney you One World Socialist!


42 posted on 07/30/2010 6:37:53 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: GOPGuide

“Republican presidential candidates and former operatives under Bush, a reform proponent, can convince GOP congressional leaders that the issue needs to be dealt with before 2012 — or that they could risk alienating the burgeoning Hispanic vote in the crucial swing states of New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada, Arizona and Florida.”

Yeah, these party boys and “operatives”, Bushites and others, are so brilliant, it’s hard for us peons to even look upon them without sunglasses.

If the Republicans will just embrace amnesty, the Mexicans, Salvadorans, etc. will flock to them in gratitude and reward them with mucho votos. And, of course, the rank and file non-Latino Republicans won’t mind their party selling out the country again, will they?

For every Latino vote the Elephants picked up, they’d lose ten votes from people who have supported the Republicans through thick and thin for years.

Just brilliant.

The Stupid Party—there’s just nothing to compare.


43 posted on 07/30/2010 6:38:21 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Cheerio

“If the dims grant amnesty to 30+million undocumented democrats, the GOP is finished forever. “

Not the Romney-McCain-Graham-Snowe- et al GOP, they will go on as the less-liberal wing of the DNC with support from the MSM.


44 posted on 07/30/2010 6:39:54 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
has signaled quietly to Graham that Republicans must address immigration before the campaign heats up
The only way Republicans must address immigration is, BUILD THE FENCE and prohibit immigration from Moslem countries by Moslems (but not by others).
45 posted on 07/30/2010 6:39:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: GOPGuide

46 posted on 07/30/2010 6:40:45 PM PDT by nhwingut (Palin/Bachmann '12)
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To: Gene Eric

Understood.

We should also remember that the newly legalized aliens will all shortly end up as welfare cases. Why? Once they are legal, employers will be forced to pay them at least minimum wage. This will price the newly legalized out of the labor market, as a new crop of illegals will be willing to come to the U.S. and work for sub-standard wages.

The pro-amnesty folks are aware of this never-ending cycle. It is their strategy to change America’s demographics permanently so that the “white ruling class” is relegated to permanent minority status.


47 posted on 07/30/2010 6:40:47 PM PDT by kevao
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To: AuntB; HiJinx; gubamyster; SandRat; DoughtyOne; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker; Grunthor; Frantzie; ...

McRomney! BARF!


48 posted on 07/30/2010 6:45:28 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: KoRn

I’m liking Jim DeMint, Rick Santorum, and Chris Christie.....that’s about it. The ones being talked about all fall way short.

Romney, Pawlenty and Huckabee are squishy RINO frauds.

Palin is likeable and good on the issues for the most part - but alas also a lightweight.

Gingrich has too much baggage.

Am I missing anyone?

Hank


49 posted on 07/30/2010 6:46:17 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Where's the diversity on MSNBC? Olbermann, Schultz, Matthews, Maddow.....all white males!)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

McDonald in VA is putting together a good track record.


50 posted on 07/30/2010 6:48:34 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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