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Cop kills "Bear-Bear" (A Dog) at Arundel dog park: Justified?
Baltimore Sun ^ | 08/03/2010 | Baltimore Sun

Posted on 08/03/2010 6:06:22 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

Here's the full story of Bear-Bear that I wrote with Sun reporter Brent Jones, online now and set to appear in tomorrow's Sun, print edition. It's been getting a lot of attention online. Lots of folks appalled not only that this dog was shot in a dog park, but that police aren't going to charge the cop that shot him -- or even let the public known his name. Please share what you think:

Stunned dog owners and residents of a Severn neighborhood are shocked that authorities won’t be charging a federal police officer who shot and killed a Siberian Husky Monday night at a community dog park.

Bear-Bear, a brown and white Husky that’s about three years old, was playing in the Quail Run dog park at about 6:30 p.m., running off leash inside the fenced-in area, when the officer and his wife arrived with a German Shepherd, who was kept on a leash. When the dogs began to play roughly — the federal officer asked Bear-Bear’s guardian, his owner’s brother, to call off the dog. But before he could do anything, the officer pulled out a gun and shot Bear-Bear.

Bear-Bear, who belongs to Rachel Rettaliala, died of his injuries a few hours later.

(Excerpt) Read more at weblogs.baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: cop; dog; donutwatch; jbt; warondogs

1 posted on 08/03/2010 6:06:26 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

So did the Shepard have any injuries (from the other dog)?


2 posted on 08/03/2010 6:11:16 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Hmmm, Officer Neckvein perhaps, or was this the puke who shot the Boy Scout several years back.

A full investigation is required, and municipality that owns the dog park should BAN HIM immediately ~ and sue his pants off.

3 posted on 08/03/2010 6:11:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

The officer had better be able to produce a record from the vet of his dog’s treatment...produce his dog and its freshly stitched wounds...


4 posted on 08/03/2010 6:11:35 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
“This is tragic,” she said. “A community of homeowners with children playing around should not have gun-crazy, off-duty policemen shooting in their area, especially a dog in a controllable situation.”

Have to agree with this. No matter what the dog was doing to the other one, it does not justify disharging a firearm in a public park with people around.

This man does not have the judgment to be a police officer. He should be fired.

5 posted on 08/03/2010 6:12:58 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I guess when the only tool you have is a hammer, every situation looks like a nail.


6 posted on 08/03/2010 6:14:00 PM PDT by PalmettoMason (The shattered skulls of tyrants should be used for traction under the boots of justice. T. Nugent)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

‘Federal’ cop off work shoots dog.

JBT use of force is always justified.


7 posted on 08/03/2010 6:14:12 PM PDT by Palter (Kilroy was here.)
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To: PalmettoMason

Probably confused his taser with his gun.


8 posted on 08/03/2010 6:15:13 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
Probably confused his taser with his gun.

Oh, then it's okay then. /s

9 posted on 08/03/2010 6:18:32 PM PDT by PalmettoMason (The shattered skulls of tyrants should be used for traction under the boots of justice. T. Nugent)
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To: Paladin2
That part of the facility had open run rules. The cop brought his dog on a leash and appeared (reading the news on this one) to have attempted to walk his dog on a leash in that part rather than in the on the leash part.

Other stories indicate this may have been a privately owned dog run ~ part of an HOA.

That's possibly why the cops won't bring charges ~ they are waiting on the HOA President to bring charges ~ which I would have no problem doing.

It's obvious the cop violated the rules, and went further and violated some of the implied rules by shooting another resident's dog.

There will be some lawsuits.

10 posted on 08/03/2010 6:18:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Around here, it’s against the rules to have a dog ON a leash in the dog park.

So it appears that the cop had a dog that shouldn’t even have been in the park.


11 posted on 08/03/2010 6:20:00 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PalmettoMason

Works in CA.


12 posted on 08/03/2010 6:20:42 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Lemme see. Baltimore? Federal cop? Quick on the trigger? He sure fits the profile of an ObaMao JBT.


13 posted on 08/03/2010 6:21:11 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Eventually, citizens are going to have to start actively protecting their property from these trigger happy goons.

Or retroactively if they don’t see the badge coming before it starts shooting.


14 posted on 08/03/2010 6:21:23 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Just another rare, isolated example of the 99% giving the 1% a bad name. The psychotic cop and all of his peers and superiors who won’t investigate, charge or identify him.

Go team blue! Yay!


15 posted on 08/03/2010 6:21:39 PM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: muawiyah
"There will be some lawsuits. "

That's a problem as one can typically only get the Justice one can afford. Whoever has deeper pockets wins.

16 posted on 08/03/2010 6:24:53 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
I said this earlier on another thread. ANYONE, cop or citizen, who harms one of the family pets is a dead person walking. It's only a question of when and where.

L

17 posted on 08/03/2010 6:30:27 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

These cops are soon going to have a price on their heads.

Copper is lucky the dog owner had more restraint and didn’t shoot his dog as he couldn’t control it even on a leash.


18 posted on 08/03/2010 6:30:42 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

German Shepards, with their masters, on a leash, are very, very violent, sudden, and aggressive. I just spent $1200 last month to get my 90 pound German Wirehair Pointer stitched back together after a visiting friend’s German Shephard went after my dog in my house and got my dog’s head in its mouth and started chewing and shaking it around. Like a fool, I jumped in and pulled them apart. A very bloody mess. The Vet took one look at my pooch before I said a word to him and asked “German Shephard?”


19 posted on 08/03/2010 6:41:08 PM PDT by dtrpscout (A bad dog is better than most good people.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
running off leash inside the fenced-in area, when the officer and his wife arrived with a German Shepherd, who was kept on a leash.

You cannot do this with most dogs. The dog that is on the leash is at a disadvantage in doggie land. If he starts to make any sounds of distress, every dog in the park will run to investigate which will put the leashed dog into even more distress and some may attack.

Almost every off leash dog park has a leash/un-leash vestibule. It is there for a reason. If you let your unfamiliar dog into the park free, the dogs will run up, investigate, sniff, greet, what have you. Most dogs will stand still until the inspection is over and go do their own thing. That is if they are free to run away if danger arises. If they are not free, they are very insecure and bad stuff can and does happen.

Personally, I scan the park for Pits and let my dogs in if there are none present. I know I will hear from the Pitbull folk but I keep my dogs safe how I see fit. A youngish pit is no problem but if I see an intact male over a year old, I keep my dogs away.

20 posted on 08/03/2010 6:41:51 PM PDT by lovesdogs
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To: lovesdogs

I like Pits personally but any moron who brings an intact male pitbull to a dog park shouldn’t have a dog and is too stupid to be intact himself.


21 posted on 08/03/2010 7:00:48 PM PDT by utherdoul
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To: lovesdogs
I just returned from our doggy park with my dog when I read this. Of course the big mistake was the cop not unleashing his dog--but regardless, for anyone to shoot off a firearm in an inclosed area with children, adults, and dogs running and standing around should be banned from ever touching another firearm as long as he lives.

I shudder to think what my reaction would have been, as I am always armed in the park................

22 posted on 08/03/2010 7:05:26 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

I agree. Dog shooting is reaching epidemic proportions. Citizens need to get police forces back under control for this and several other reasons.


23 posted on 08/03/2010 7:12:08 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: utherdoul

Many breeds of intact male dogs can be a problem not just pits.

This story is further proof.


24 posted on 08/03/2010 7:15:03 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Justified?

No.


25 posted on 08/03/2010 7:17:15 PM PDT by e_castillo
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To: muawiyah
We had a dog park once. That is until a lawyer moved into the new houses about 200 yrds away.

He is afraid of dogs (admittedly) so did not think the neighborhoods that surround the FENCED in (12ft high) should have the dangerous park so close to houses. "They are a menace to those who do not like dogs." (Or are afraid).
The dog park is on land that used to contain a radar tower and the edges of that area heavily treed and except for two or three walk ways there is NO access to the FENCED in dog park area. It is so heavily overgrown that it prevented most noise of the dog park from being heard in the houses in the surrounding neighborhoods.
The lawyer sued the township and threatened continued legal action until the dog park was closed. So all the folks in the approximately 250 houses that surrounded the dog park area have no more dog park.
The silly part is since he is a lawyer and will not walk in the "woods" he never sees the radar tower field where every one still walks the dogs. Just now they can not let them mingle as easily. What a jerk weed.
26 posted on 08/03/2010 7:23:38 PM PDT by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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I saw the solution, but it is way after the fact.

ALL of the dog owners should have been notified to walk their pets every day to that guy's house to poop & pee on his lawn.

27 posted on 08/03/2010 7:44:02 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I’m sorry for your loss. It is hard to lose a loyal friend.

My thought on thiss “officer” is that he is a little quick to resolve a situation with his gun.

If a shepard wants to fight, they will,maybe he just found another dog his own size to play “rough” with. I would force this cop(?) to watch all of the Dog Whisperer episodes on Dog Park Etiquite.


28 posted on 08/03/2010 8:02:01 PM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: BigBobber

your last sentence says it all BB. let this JBT explain his fired round striking and killing a child in that park if it happened to go that way. this little dick JBT shouldn’t be let out of his house with anything sharper than a beach ball from here on out.


29 posted on 08/03/2010 8:19:15 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: Lurker

Exactly so.

Civilized behavior will be reciprocated, barbarism will be repaid in kind.


30 posted on 08/03/2010 8:29:54 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; ...

I’m sorry about your dog. Another wonderful example of the men in blue (when they aren’t doing 80 on I-270 or using their flashing lights to go through stoplights).

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


31 posted on 08/03/2010 8:50:14 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Michelle Obama: the woman who ended "Diners, Drive-ins and Dives.")
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To: Kirkwood

I am amazed at how many “cop shoots dog” stories we see.

I am also amazed that no dog person has hit on the solution.

Most of us who work with hunting dogs or working dogs around the farm know that a dog can not stand electric shock.

Persons who use the invisible fencing know this as well.

OK, all the cop has to do is use his taser. No dog is going to be a threat once that juice hits him.

Shooting a pet is inexcusable when there are other means available.


32 posted on 08/03/2010 8:56:20 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
the officer and his wife arrived with a German Shepherd, who was kept on a leash.

Hmmm, strange for a dog park/run but not so strange if Mr. Officer kept his precious pooch on the leash because his German Shepherd behaves like a... German Shepherd (i.e. inclined to aggressively go after other dogs).

33 posted on 08/03/2010 9:07:56 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Ezekiel

How many posts do I have to see like this?

And frankly, I fail to see what’s so terrible about having the lead on.

You are assuming alot of things. Never mind the “vicious German Shepherd”, but apparently unaware of how spitz-type dogs can be (hyper, and prone to pinning people - I’ve been through that myself), and ignoring the apparent fact that the Siberian “aggressively” (likely meaning simply “assertively” and overzealously) went after a leaded dog, however friendly. Hyper can be very difficult to manage.

Generally, however, the cop apparently overreacted in killing this dog. There may have been no aggression at all in their play - just an aggressive cop.

But I can’t let these comments stand in and of themselves.


34 posted on 08/03/2010 9:49:25 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I have 3 shepherds I trained myself (in fact, we train daily as high-drive dogs need the work)

That said, any kind of dog can be aggressive or a biter.

I refuse to label any breed with a broad brush - it’s been my experience that a problem dog usually has a problem owner.


35 posted on 08/04/2010 6:48:18 AM PDT by LadyBuck (In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher')
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To: JSteff

Where was this?


36 posted on 08/04/2010 7:28:31 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Since they found no evidence of criminal activity, is this Federal Agent going to be going back to that park? Should everyone fear for their lives when entering this park?

Picture this...Everyone in the park has a gun...everyone in the park is allowed to shoot if they feel another dog is out of control or playing too aggressively...every man, woman, child, dog, bird, etc. would probably be dead.

Isn’t that why we have laws? And they can’t find any evidence of criminal activity? I believe we deserve a public announcement about how they came to that conclusion.


37 posted on 08/04/2010 8:46:19 AM PDT by ladybugs357
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To: LadyBuck

Hey, I’m biased - I love GS.

However, I do see problems in the breed generally - but I just tire of the labels on a dog that is likely the most popular breed in the world and has been probably for some 50 years. They are numerous, so it isn’t shocking that a some would be poor characters, anyway.

But, that wasn’t even the point of this story. There was no indication (so far) of real “wrong-doing” by any dog. Why people had to launch into “bad GS” when they weren’t even talking about a dog FIGHT, I don’t know. The focus here should be the GS handler, not the dogs.


38 posted on 08/04/2010 8:57:49 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

>>The focus here should be the GS handler, not the dogs<<

ITA

-if you have to keep your dog leashed in an off-leash dog park, perhaps your dog isn’t socialized enough (handler’s fault).

-Not being able to recognize big dog play from aggression (handler’s fault)

-Using a gun to separate the dogs because you can’t tell the difference - or get your own dog under control, even while leashed (handler’s fault)

This cop has some explaining to do (and should probably not own a GSD, or any other dog in the future)


39 posted on 08/04/2010 11:03:44 AM PDT by LadyBuck (In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher')
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

There is an update to this story. There will be a full investigation into this matter, according to WBAL.


40 posted on 08/05/2010 9:31:22 AM PDT by Abby4116
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