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Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance
AP on Yahoo ^ | 8/5/10 | Eric Talmedge - ap

Posted on 08/05/2010 12:26:20 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

ABOARD THE USS GEORGE WASHINGTON – Nothing projects U.S. global air and sea power more vividly than supercarriers. Bristling with fighter jets that can reach deep into even landlocked trouble zones, America's virtually invincible carrier fleet has long enforced its dominance of the high seas.

China may soon put an end to that.

U.S. naval planners are scrambling to deal with what analysts say is a game-changing weapon being developed by China — an unprecedented carrier-killing missile called the Dong Feng 21D that could be launched from land with enough accuracy to penetrate the defenses of even the most advanced moving aircraft carrier at a distance of more than 1,500 kilometers (900 miles).

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: chinese; dongfeng; missile; pacific
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To: Jack Hydrazine

[The Dong-Feng 21 (DF-21; NATO reporting name CSS-5 - Dong-Feng literally means “East Wind”)]

Breaking wind from the East..


21 posted on 08/05/2010 1:12:12 PM PDT by rahbert (Come heavy or don't come at all)
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To: PGR88
Its ballistic and its launch would in all likey hood be seen from orbit.

The US Navy SM-3 (RIM-161) is designed to deal with such systems.

If the chinese system can manoever in atmospher its speed is going to be farily low (by rentry vehicle standards) and may be with in the SM-2 engagement envelope.

22 posted on 08/05/2010 1:21:32 PM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: rahbert

“East Wind, Rain” was one of three possible “execute” messages which Japanese diplomats around the world had been alerted to begin listening for on November 19th. They were told to monitor the regular news and weather broadcasts from Tokyo, just as they always did, but to pay especially careful attention to the phraseology employed to describe the weather.

If they heard the words “North Wind, Cloudy,” it meant war with the Soviet Union.

If they heard the words “West Wind, Clear,” it meant war with the British Empire.

And if they heard the words “East Wind, Rain,” it meant war with the United States.


23 posted on 08/05/2010 1:22:54 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 558 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: edpc
Using a ballistic missile to track and hit a moving target seems like a task out of their reach.

With an initial estimate within a hundred miles or so, finding a flat metal flight deck on water shouldn't be that hard. The rest is software.

24 posted on 08/05/2010 1:27:28 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Government is an apex predator.)
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To: Little Ray

Agreed.

Other “super weapons” previously hyped by a credulous media, that will destroy America’s military superiority/inflict massive unsustainable casualties:

T-80 Tank;
MiG 25;
TU-22 Backfire Bomber;
Typhoon Class SSBN;
Akula Class/Project 971 SSN;
Kilo Class SS;
SS-25 Mobile ICBM;
Iranian Speedboat Flotillas...

Anyone else?


25 posted on 08/05/2010 1:33:13 PM PDT by hc87
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To: hc87
Anyone else?

Nazi Panzers? Confederate Ironclads?
26 posted on 08/05/2010 1:44:21 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: DrC

China won’t move on S. Korea, they are a big investor and trading partner; Taiwan is another kettle of fish.


27 posted on 08/05/2010 1:44:29 PM PDT by steve8714 (Our long national nightmare is over. We can resume our proper disdain for soccer.)
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To: DrC

China won’t move on S. Korea, they are a big investor and trading partner; Taiwan is another kettle of fish. I think these Chinese are more into hegemony than conversion.


28 posted on 08/05/2010 1:45:39 PM PDT by steve8714 (Our long national nightmare is over. We can resume our proper disdain for soccer.)
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To: DrC

China won’t move on S. Korea, they are a big investor and trading partner; Taiwan is another kettle of fish. I think these Chinese are more into hegemony than conversion.


29 posted on 08/05/2010 1:45:40 PM PDT by steve8714 (Our long national nightmare is over. We can resume our proper disdain for soccer.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Naw man... we have FReepers that stated in a thread yesterday that china is the next America... that these Capitalists are creating the most free nation on earth. Truth is... they are still a bunch of maoist commie murderers.

LLS

30 posted on 08/05/2010 1:47:44 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: NormsRevenge

And this would stop us how? The super-carrier is not the thing China needs to worry about. The Seawolf and Virgina class subs are the difference makers.

How is the missile going to avoid the Aegis Phalanx? When bullets meets supersonic missile, physics take over.


31 posted on 08/05/2010 2:02:45 PM PDT by Azeem (The world will look up and shout "Save us!"... And I'll whisper "No.")
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To: NormsRevenge

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32 posted on 08/05/2010 2:08:59 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (1.416785(71) x 10^32 frwv)
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To: steve8714

“China won’t move on S. Korea, they are a big investor and trading partner”

Maybe, but the relationship is ambivalent. As noted in this article, Korea used to be China’s vassal state.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2010/02/113_42199.html

What happens if N. Korea implodes? Is China going to accept a unified Korea having strong ties to the U.S.? I concur that the prospect of military action is much lower in Korea than in Taiwan, but I don’t think China differentiates that much between military and economic power. A “show of force” may well be thought to be a sensible action to parallel economic pressures China might wish to apply to S. Korea to get it to do its bidding.

My point is that what might have constituted “unacceptable” Chinese military behavior in the past is today far more likely to be grudgingly accepted by the U.S. on grounds they don’t want to rock the boat etc.


33 posted on 08/05/2010 2:13:26 PM PDT by DrC
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To: NormsRevenge

Hell, we already know that clinton gave them technology that is being used on ballistic missiles. Obastard will give them anything else they need.


34 posted on 08/05/2010 2:41:52 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Satan is a Democrat and Obama is his minion.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Take this with a grain of salt. This is the media that only found out the Gulf of Mexico oil spill was a Democrat hoax 104 days later than Rush Limbaugh.


35 posted on 08/05/2010 2:50:12 PM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I don't buy it.

Hitting a 3 x football field from 900miles away while it's traveling at 40knots...with a BALLISTIC missile?

And, it would have to penetrate AGEIS and Phallanx.

I call BS.

36 posted on 08/05/2010 3:47:55 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Bidimus1

Why worry if the Dems are not defeated in November we will not have any Carriers anyway.


37 posted on 08/05/2010 3:56:00 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: Carry_Okie; Jack Hydrazine

Even if they could pull it off, there would be advanced warning of a ballistic missile launch. The Pacific fleet has 16 Aegis cruisers assigned with SM-2 and -3, which are capable of providing defense for the vessels. I have more confidence in our ablility to intercept the warhead over their ability to hit the intended target.


38 posted on 08/05/2010 3:58:10 PM PDT by edpc (Those Lefties just ain't right)
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To: Mariner

Agreed.....more AP overhyping, as par for the libtard rag.


39 posted on 08/05/2010 5:01:25 PM PDT by cranked
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
Thanks NormsRevenge.
...a game-changing weapon being developed by China -- an unprecedented carrier-killing missile called the Dong Feng 21D that could be launched from land with enough accuracy to penetrate the defenses of even the most advanced moving aircraft carrier at a distance of more than 1,500 kilometers (900 miles).
Just curious -- how many Chinese live downstreat of the Three Gorges Dam?
40 posted on 08/05/2010 6:31:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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