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Gay Marriage – Forgive Me, But What is the Problem Here?
The Constitution Club ^ | 08-05-10 | Angi Quinn

Posted on 08/05/2010 5:04:23 PM PDT by TheConservativeCitizen

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To: manc

And now there are groups that want incest legalized as long as the incestees are adults. IIRC Germany or some other country has legalized it. Maybe not Germany but some European country, not long ago.


81 posted on 08/05/2010 8:05:19 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

I’m off to bed after a really crap day but I’ll be back on tomorrow before I leave for the a couple of days.

She says why not

AARRGGHH
I’m guessing she knows one or two and they’re nice of course never thinking what this is really about, how they really are and what could result in all of this to children, being taught, the laws, etc etc etc

one line marriage is between a man and a woman
the other side is anything goes as eevry argument used by these homosexuals can be sued for any other kind of marriage.


82 posted on 08/05/2010 8:08:46 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: msrngtp2002
And I am not new here - I’ve been around for more than a few years.

Marriage as well has been around for a few years. Darn -marriage existed before the country was even discovered let alone established under God.

Let's see marriage has existed for some time, traditionally and under common law and subsequently codified into written law. Society in its infinite wisdom decided marriage a good thing something valued greatly -something to be accommodated and granted privilege. Society like the free market has historically and factually rewarded and assigned value to those things valued e.g. strength, wisdom, leadership, intelligience etcetera...

Limited government was established to protect society NOT redefine and destroy it by declaring homosexual couplings of value to be rewarded and granted privilege.

What we see here is one and the same we see with our economy and free market EXCEPT in this case it is the moral market that government invades.

Society values man and woman marriage for a reason that is factually and historically tested precedent over any government mandate for experimentation.

Just as the free market chose VHS over Betamax and SUV over compact car; society chose husband and wife over homosexual coupling that offer no value to society regardless a government stamp of approval or passive acceptance of such by useful idiots...

83 posted on 08/05/2010 8:14:41 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: manc

SOrry you had a crap day, manc.

Take a break for a couple of days. FR will still be here, natural law still rules supreme, and this too shall pass.

I had to take a couple of breaks for some weeks. Just couldn’t handle it.


84 posted on 08/05/2010 8:15:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

It goes back to the reasons for civil marriage (as opposed to religiously sanctioned marriage).

WHY do we have civil marriage?

Historically, civil marriage exists for the protection of women and children. Men are physically capable of dominating, intimidating, and physically abusing women and children, and some men have proclivities in these directions. Civil (state-sanctioned) marriage exists to provide something of a counterweight to the realities of this biological imbalance and thus make for a more civilized society.

More in “Marriage: Not So Gay” at

http://stumpedagain.wordpress.com/marriage-not-so-gay/


85 posted on 08/05/2010 8:24:44 PM PDT by cookcounty ("Today's White House reporters seem one ball short of a ping pong scrimmage.")
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To: pingman

Pingy if you are addressing me with your little manifesto, save it please. My comment was arguing those who think that a man and a woman relationship is the same as a man and a man or a woman and a woman it is not possible. Genders are different as far as thinking, hormones and characteristics. So how can it be equal?


86 posted on 08/05/2010 8:25:07 PM PDT by jerseyrocks
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To: TheBigIf
I guess if your a left-wing pervert then you think that is cute.

Well, that would be a pretty Big If, Mr (or Ms) "TheBigIf".

By the way, it's "you're" (short for "you are") not your (possessive).

(*smile*)

87 posted on 08/05/2010 8:31:01 PM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one... Luke 22:36)
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To: pingman
I feel that I have stumbled into the “small minds think alike” thread.

A) Why do we allow the sterile and elderly to marry, if procreation is the objective?

B) If it weren’t for organized religion, we probably wouldn’t be having this discussion.

C) By letting the matter be decided in the political arena, it’s bound to be the next uber-divisive issue haunting our society for years to come.

That being said, my acquaintances and friends that are gay and in relationships, are as or more functional than many of my straight ones.

Help society evolve, and put a sock in it. Don’t want gay marriage? Don’t have one.

And for the record to ensuing $hit$torm: I’m comfortably hetero and hardly curious. Live and let live is my rule of life.

You are at worst you are leftist progressive, at best a useful idiot for the left that has been brainwashed Maybe it would be best you stay away from this issue until you get clued in? Otherwise DU is an option...

88 posted on 08/05/2010 8:35:05 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: sourcery
Declaring a behavior a civil right is a huge problem, and it effects everyone, whether you realize it or not, obviously in many more ways than you are aware or have given any thought to.

The civil right movement was correct and just, it was about innate attributes of race, NOT a behavior.

Also, the Constitution does not guarantee marriage, it can't, otherwise someone could be arrested for turning down a proposal or refusing to propose. If it does not guarantee marriage, in fact does not mention it at all, how can it possibly guarantee gays the right to marriage?

89 posted on 08/05/2010 8:46:07 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: pingman

Your evolved society is not one most of us would want any part of. Keep your change.


90 posted on 08/05/2010 8:48:40 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

Don’t tear down a fence until you know why it was put up in the first place.


91 posted on 08/05/2010 9:05:52 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I saw three got banned yesterday. More need to. Many of them have older signup dates but few comments, one or two pages take you back 4 and more years, and many of their comments are supporting the homosexual agenda.


92 posted on 08/05/2010 9:09:39 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: pingman

Live and let live?

The homosexual agenda pushers are the exact opposite. They want to kill each other with AIDS, force taxpayers to pay for their treatments so they can live longer and kill more of their brethren, and they want to force everyone else to support their sickness.


93 posted on 08/05/2010 9:11:15 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: GenXteacher

I have three children. Of course, they are all beautiful, but one has always been especially striking. He’s 20 years old now, works at a local gym, and is a body builder preparing to enlist in the Marines this fall.

No one messes with him now, but when he was a teen, he was literally stalked by several aggressive middle aged men who hung out at the gym. These men targeted other teen boys as well, and unfortunately, because of their youth and inexperience, the boys did not even realize what was going one until it became obvious. Thankfully, my husband was able to begin working out with my son, so this was put to an end.

This gym is a family centered facility, in a suburban neighborhood in N.E. Ohio, and regularly offers classes to kids and teens. The management kicked out the perverts when they learned what was going on, but as soon as one was removed another seemed to show up.

My point is that many homosexuals have no intention of keeping their sexuality to themselves. From our experience, the male homosexuals show far more predatory behavior than the general population, and they are getting bolder all the time. They not only want their behavior to be normalized through our laws and educational system, they want to remove our ability to teach and protect our own children.


94 posted on 08/05/2010 9:20:41 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen
I am a conservative Republican.

If you are telling us that two men have the right to be called a married couple, you may be a Republican, but you're not conservative.

Frankly, you're an idiot.
95 posted on 08/05/2010 9:34:01 PM PDT by Antoninus (It's a degenerate society where dogs have more legal rights than unborn babies.)
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To: keats5
My point is that many homosexuals have no intention of keeping their sexuality to themselves. From our experience, the male homosexuals show far more predatory behaviour than the general population, they are getting bolder all the time. They not only want their behaviour to be normalized through our laws and educational system, they want to remove our ability to teach and protect our own children.

Never a truer word and let anyone try to debate that fact. I remember my own native city of London, England in the 1950's. That place was lousy with these old rotters who tried to pick up young men. I left for Canada and ended up in a rough around the edges working class city. In this city, the homosexual, though not abused, even to this day, keeps it all behind closed doors. Too many old ex- hockey players and other aggressive types, I guess.

I read later of these old Communist traitors in that city of London, England and most of them homosexual. I would not want to live there again at any price.

96 posted on 08/05/2010 10:12:00 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

Gay marriage is not marriage Q.E.D.


97 posted on 08/05/2010 10:46:52 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Socialism is the philosophy of failure, - W Churchill)
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To: msrngtp2002
If they want to risk eternal damnation then I guess they can do that if they want.

And when they have your pastor, priest, or rabbi jailed for refusing to risk his/her own soul, for the sake of "tolerance", will it conceivably effect you then? Make no mistake, *THAT* is the end game of the most militant in "the gay lobby". It is nothing less than using the power of the government gun to destroy traditional religion, to be replaced with who knows what, but extreme doubt obtains that said replacement would be good...

the infowarrior

98 posted on 08/06/2010 1:56:17 AM PDT by infowarrior
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To: Jim 0216

It is enough to make a whole cattery curious: what in the hell is happening in Europe, which swallowed this stuff decades ago without a peep? Somehow they are muddling through, though the Mooses are beginning to eat their demographic lunch. Without much care of a posterity, they don’t have much care of an old fashioned family either.

The consternation we see in America over this is GOOD. It means there is a huge element that has not lost its traditional moral sense, that wants a posterity, and is not willing to compromise this for, at least, the sake of “getting along.”


99 posted on 08/06/2010 3:14:39 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: little jeremiah

I can believe that. There are trolls in the woodwork!


100 posted on 08/06/2010 4:28:10 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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